jayarmbar
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I have not had much success finding out. Is there a law on the books? Thanks for your help.
I have not had much success finding out. Is there a law on the books? Thanks for your help.
I have not had much success finding out. Is there a law on the books? Thanks for your help.
Some daycare's are ALSO "private" Kindergarten. If that was the case.. this in would be.A day care facility is not considered a school zone, as far as carrying a firearm in this statute-
Agreed. You do need to be careful with some of these hybrid/specialty schools. They do sometimes slip in a K class somewhere. I took the OP's question to mean a facility that is solely a day care.ProShooter wrote:Some daycare's are ALSO "private" Kindergarten. If that was the case.. this in would be.A day care facility is not considered a school zone, as far as carrying a firearm in this statute-
The diference is between "policy" and LAW. and if it was not posted.. I would not go "check it or ask".. Don't ask dont tell.Technically not a school zone, but i guarantee they have policy against weapons of any kind, my kids' school does.. Check that first before you try it.
bdodds wrote:The diference is between "policy" and LAW. and if it was not posted.. I would not go "check it or ask".. Don't ask dont tell.Technically not a school zone, but i guarantee they have policy against weapons of any kind, my kids' school does.. Check that first before you try it.
There is the problem. If you just did it and went about your business, they probably would never have talked to management. Just go about your business.... If they ask what you do for a living.. Simply smile.. and say "I work really hard to pay for day care", kiss yer kid goodbye and walk out.My little girls daycare does not have a K program. I asked what their feelings were as far as me carrying when picking her up or dropping her off.
They talked to management and called me saying they'd prefer I leave it in the car. She'll be going to a new daycare next week.
I respect the wishes of property owners too.. I just don't go look for them to get up in MY business.. if they do.. then I address it. That is why VCDL has a don't ask don't tell policy. It's your daycare.. but maybe my kid went there too.. then you go ask. "Can I bring my gun in here? No? well you don't have a sign??!?!" then they put up a sign and now I can't come in even if I was CC. That was my point. I think if you asked 100 random places you would get about a 50/50 response. If you just went to those same 100 places and acted normally but did not ask them anything.. it would be 95/5 or 90/10. I am simply sayin that I try and go with thr numbers.I agree with you for the most part, but I still try to respect the property owners wishes.
I understand that point of view, and used to share it. I now prefer to know where businesses I patronize stand on the issue. While I won't call or ask, I am usually OCing, so if they have a problem with it, they will speak up.Wooley wrote:There is the problem. If you just did it and went about your business, they probably would never have talked to management. Just go about your business.... If they ask what you do for a living.. Simply smile.. and say "I work really hard to pay for day care", kiss yer kid goodbye and walk out.My little girls daycare does not have a K program. I asked what their feelings were as far as me carrying when picking her up or dropping her off.
They talked to management and called me saying they'd prefer I leave it in the car. She'll be going to a new daycare next week.
While I don't want to put any CC'er out (which is why I don't call or ask), I'd much prefer to know where those 50 businesses are. I want to support the people that support my rights. If I don't know who they are, I can't do that. It's a catch 22 situation.Wooley wrote:I respect the wishes of property owners too.. I just don't go look for them to get up in MY business.. if they do.. then I address it. That is why VCDL has a don't ask don't tell policy. It's your daycare.. but maybe my kid went there too.. then you go ask. "Can I bring my gun in here? No? well you don't have a sign??!?!" then they put up a sign and now I can't come in even if I was CC. That was my point. I think if you asked 100 random places you would get about a 50/50 response. If you just went to those same 100 places and acted normally but did not ask them anything.. it would be 95/5 or 90/10. I am simply sayin that I try and go with thr numbers.I agree with you for the most part, but I still try to respect the property owners wishes.
I agree with Tomahawk. I've been in a lot of places lately while OC'ing and rarely get a second glance. I look like I know what I'm doing and where I'm going (when I'm actually retired and haven't a clue). I do wear an ugly Binachi black ballistic nylon with a thumb-break because I'm used to a wearing a similar model when I was still working. It does look kinda "cop-like", I guess.Whenever you ask the managment, you force them to make a decision about something they probably hadn't thought of, and you put them on the spot. The person you are asking is under pressure to play it safe and tell you "no". He's more afraid of what his boss or his insurance company or his many non-OC customers will think than he is of what you might think.
If you just OC and act like a gentleman, they may see it and not bother to ask you about it. If none of the other customers say anything, why should they?
That is my take on it, anyway. Doesn't always hold true, of course, but as long as you're polite and you don't have some pre-knowledge of the owner's dislike for visible firearms it's not disrespectful to do this.
Tell them you work in a comic book shop and you spend all day reading Punisher comics.No law (that I know of) tells me that I have to explain what I do for a living when asked. It is different than impersonating a LEO. I hardly ever get asked... but if I do, I could just reply with "Man.. those April Showers REALLY DO bring May flowers dont they?!" and walk awy or say something like "I am sorry, I am not at liberty to say who I work for but I sure hope you wave a wonderful day!". Add yer own winks and grins as appropriate.