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Dave Workman wrote:
WHOA! Time Out!!
Slow down.
Would you guys just relax, please? SAF has been working on a lawsuit for the past several months. Plaintiffs are lined up (at least one of whom will be familiar on this forum) and any conduct that might jeopardize the success of that lawsuitshould be discouraged.
Not only could it blow up in our collective faces, but it would likely give the mayor all the momentum he needs totrot down to Olympia next year and really screw with state preemption. Do you want to be responsible for that?
Pleasedon't be too eager to go down in history as the person(s) who mucked up the SAF lawsuit and also gave Nickels a launch pad for a successful dismantling of statepreemption.
I agree with the above statement. SAF has made it plainly clear that they will sue Seattle as soon as they put any part of this executive order into effect. It looks like they also jumped the gun and started negotiating early into their leases with Folklife, and if I were to take a guess, Pride this year as well.
Nickels couldn't get anything done this year on gun issues at all. Next year and the next session after that doesn't look so good for him either.
Scenes of open carriers getting arrested after attempting to "citizen arrest" security officers, or getting shot by police officers while trying to "arrest" a guard is not my idea of a "fun time" or "way to make a statement", it's also a way of getting our state preemption statute gutted or repealed entirely. Think of how King 5 and the Seattle Times will spin the story?
Oh, and while you're waiting, you're sitting in a jail cell (and none of you that do pull a stupid will be thought of like MLK in Birmingham Jail), or if you're really unlucky, your body will be in a morgue for a few days. Worst part is, neither sitting in a jail cell or ending up in the morgue will do anything for anyone except deny your life and presence to the ones who love and care for you the most. You'll do the OC movement in this state, or even nationwide, a disservice by doing what's been suggested in this thread.
Sheriff Bull Connor turning the fire houses and dogs on unarmed and peaceful protesters turned the rest of the country against the South. None of us here are Selma marchers, and shouldn't presume to even think that we are, or that we will be regarded as the same thing.
When King and others engaged in civil disobedience, they did so with the specific intent to challenge the law with the the backing of the NAACP Legal Foundation and the ACLU.
Guess who kept losing legal cases and setting things legally back for them? The folks who were considered the "Lone Wolves", who had scrounged up what little money they had to hire a private lawyer (or where lawyers themselves). who had no particular skin in the game. You know, "Lone Wolves" like Gary Gorski (the primarily employment lawyer who gave us the horrific
Silveira v. Lockyer decision), James Maloney (the apparent egomaniac who lost us the 2nd Circuit on incorporation until we can get a good case up to SCOTUS), and of course, let's not forget
Miller lawyer who didn't even bother to show up in court.
Heller was our
Brown v. Board of Education. It still took 15 years to do cleanup detail, but the first 5-7 years was critical to the NAACP's legal success in taking down segregation nationwide. This situation is merely a very small ground battle in a much larger legal war that's being waged nationwide, especially two states to our south (California). Let the legal professionals, who spent a large part of their careers in Second Amendment issues, handle this.
Nickel's be doing this :cuss::cuss::cuss::cuss: when the hammer falls on him, and you'll all going to be pointing and laughing at him. Trust me.
