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    "Anonymous Tip

    In a 1990 decision, the U.S. Supreme Court confirmed that, through corroboration of its detail, an anonymous tip can be enough to give rise to the reasonable suspicion required for a stop.5 More recently though, the U.S. Supreme Court in 2000 ruled that an anonymous tip that a person is carrying a gun is not sufficient to justify a police officer's stop and frisk of that person, even where descriptive detail regarding the subject has been corroborated. The Court declined to adopt the "firearms exception" to Terry's requirement of reasonable suspicion.6 Similarly, in another 2000 Supreme Court case, an anonymous tip with a physical description and location that a person had a gun was not enough for reasonable suspicion, absent anything else to arouse the officer's suspicion.7 In that case the Court ruled that it was irrelevant that the defendant fled when the officer got out of his car and ordered the defendant to approach him.8 The tipster need not deliver an ironclad case to the police to justify an investigatory stop; it suffices if a prudent law enforcement officer would reasonably conclude that the likelihood existed that criminal activities were afoot and that a particular suspect was probably engaged in them.9 "



    What Supreme court cases were these?


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    The reason I want to know is because if I am going to court over OCing (at minimal fighting the traffic ticket I recieved after the initial stop), and I reference this Supreme Court decision, they are probably going to ask me "what case are you refering to". If my reply is, "uhhhhhhhh....it is something I read online" then it won't be helping me any.

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    T Vance wrote:
    http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum30/13328.html

    "Anonymous Tip

    In a 1990 decision, the U.S. Supreme Court confirmed that, through corroboration of its detail, an anonymous tip can be enough to give rise to the reasonable suspicion required for a stop.5 More recently though, the U.S. Supreme Court in 2000 ruled that an anonymous tip that a person is carrying a gun is not sufficient to justify a police officer's stop and frisk of that person, even where descriptive detail regarding the subject has been corroborated. The Court declined to adopt the "firearms exception" to Terry's requirement of reasonable suspicion.6 Similarly, in another 2000 Supreme Court case, an anonymous tip with a physical description and location that a person had a gun was not enough for reasonable suspicion, absent anything else to arouse the officer's suspicion.7 In that case the Court ruled that it was irrelevant that the defendant fled when the officer got out of his car and ordered the defendant to approach him.8 The tipster need not deliver an ironclad case to the police to justify an investigatory stop; it suffices if a prudent law enforcement officer would reasonably conclude that the likelihood existed that criminal activities were afoot and that a particular suspect was probably engaged in them.9 "



    What Supreme court cases were these?
    If you would have read on father in the article the references are at the bottom. I believe these two cases are the one's he refers to.

    6 Florida v. J.L., 529 U.S. 266, 120 S. Ct. 1375, 146 L.Ed.2d 254 (2000).
    7 Pennsylvania v. D.M., U.S. 120 S. Ct. 203, 146 L.Ed.2d 953 (2000).


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    Opps! :shock:

    Thanks

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    ghostrider wrote: That's were I got it and it's posted on the info thread, if people would just take the time to read it, there is a ton of good info there. Hence the name of start here first info thread. You can lead a horse to water....
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    Venator wrote:
    ghostrider wrote: That's were I got it and it's posted on the info thread, if people would just take the time to read it, there is a ton of good info there. Hence the name of start here first info thread. You can lead a horse to water....
    This could be helpful too:

    http://www.laaw.com/seizure_chart.htm
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    DrTodd wrote:
    Venator wrote:
    ghostrider wrote: That's were I got it and it's posted on the info thread, if people would just take the time to read it, there is a ton of good info there. Hence the name of start here first info thread. You can lead a horse to water....
    This could be helpful too:

    http://www.laaw.com/seizure_chart.htm
    Link posted on info thread, thanks.
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