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Democratic Montana Gov. Sticking it to Feds

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thorvaldr wrote:
I love this. Did anyone else get a sudden urge to move to Montana?
I'd wait until it's settled under a SCOTUS ruling before I moved. States are going to have to start refusing federal dollars in addition to this, and that's going to be difficult I'd say, unless the people in that state back it up with their demands.
 

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A free state, looking out for the interest of the people, can it be true? The American spirit of freedom and liberty is alive and well in Montana!
 

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This is good, but what was the SCOTUS case where the rancher that grew his own feed for his own cattle, but was forced to pay interstate tax on it because the feednormally 'could have been' shipped interstate? Seems like that shoots down this kind of thinking.
 

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Notso wrote:
This is good, but what was the SCOTUS case where the rancher that grew his own feed for his own cattle, but was forced to pay interstate tax on it because the feednormally 'could have been' shipped interstate? Seems like that shoots down this kind of thinking.
Seems to me that I remember my history prof teaching us about Andrew Jackson telling SCOTUS to get bent & doing as he pleased anyway. If they start giving out more rulings like that one, it may be about time "We the People" start doing the same.
 

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This is AWESOME!

SCOTUS is notorious for giving the feds too much power under the commerce clause. A line needs to be drawn somewhere. In the gun in a gun free zone case (can't remember the name of it) the courts decided that the commerce clause at least didn't go that far.

I hope more states follow Montana's lead and tell the Feds to go blank themselves.
 

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American Rattlesnake wrote:
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There are a small group of states dedicated to protecting their citizens' rights. New Hampshire, Montana, and Wyoming - any more?
Idaho and Alaska come immediately to mind.
As does South Dakota, Utah, and Texas.
 

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Statesman wrote:
thorvaldr wrote:
I love this. Did anyone else get a sudden urge to move to Montana?
I'd wait until it's settled under a SCOTUS ruling before I moved. States are going to have to start refusing federal dollars in addition to this, and that's going to be difficult I'd say, unless the people in that state back it up with their demands.
I still got the urge.

In fact, I'm finishing my Associate's Degree soon.
 

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Brass Magnet wrote:
This is AWESOME!

SCOTUS is notorious for giving the feds too much power under the commerce clause. A line needs to be drawn somewhere. In the gun in a gun free zone case (can't remember the name of it) the courts decided that the commerce clause at least didn't go that far.

I hope more states follow Montana's lead and tell the Feds to go blank themselves.
Glenn Beck said today, that he understood that most of the judges (SCOTUS) are just waiting for a good case to reverse these asinine commerce clause decisions. They've apparently been waiting for a "good" case to come along, and recent state resolutions on local firearm commerce may be the ones they are looking for.
 

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Statesman wrote:
Glenn Beck said today, that he understood that most of the judges (SCOTUS) are just waiting for a good case to reverse these asinine commerce clause decisions. They've apparently been waiting for a "good" case to come along, and recent state resolutions on local firearm commerce may be the ones they are looking for.

I hope that's true. I just find it hard to put my trust in the court where both the liberal and conservative justices fail to interpret the law based on the constitution and instead interpret it with agendas. The Heller decision was correct in the end, but they came about it for the wrong reasons.See if you can pick out the idiocy in this statement. In the dissent, Justice Breyer said: "In my view, there simply is no untouchable constitutional right guaranteed by the Second Amendment to keep loaded handguns in the house in crime-ridden urban areas."(DUH! this is where youneed them most!)In fact, the whole dissent basicallyconfirmed that they want to legislate from the bench. Even the majority worried about the "implications" of their decision, which is not theirs to worry about. There are grounds to impeach almost every justice on that court. All you need to do is read a couple of decisions.

Also dissapointing was that in drawing a parrallel to the English bill of rights; “That the subjects which are Protestants may have arms for their defense suitable to their conditions and as allowed by law.” they conluded that"shall not be infringed" meant common sense laws. WTF? The reason our founders put in "shall not be infringed" was because their arms were taken from them whilst they were "protected" by english law. They didn't want it to be up to a law to take them away ever again.

I guess this is where some of my lack of faith comes in.
 

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MuellerBadener wrote:
Flintlock wrote:
American Rattlesnake wrote:
GJD wrote:
There are a small group of states dedicated to protecting their citizens' rights. New Hampshire, Montana, and Wyoming - any more?
Idaho and Alaska come immediately to mind.
As does South Dakota, Utah, and Texas.
Almost sounds like the Rocky Mountain Republic.
Unfortunately I don't have high hopes of that list including Colorado anytime soon :(
 

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RockyMtnScotsman wrote:
MuellerBadener wrote:
Flintlock wrote:
American Rattlesnake wrote:
GJD wrote:
There are a small group of states dedicated to protecting their citizens' rights. New Hampshire, Montana, and Wyoming - any more?
Idaho and Alaska come immediately to mind.
As does South Dakota, Utah, and Texas.
Almost sounds like the Rocky Mountain Republic.
Unfortunately I don't have high hopes of that list including Colorado anytime soon :(
Then we'll just have to annex them!:lol: Manitoba too!
 
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