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Dustin wrote:
turbodog wrote:
Sure, the bad guys can always get illegal guns, that's a given. But I think there should always be residual penalties for severe crimes. Misdemeanors no, everything now considered a felony, no, crimes of violence, yes!
I feel that People who have made a decision to commit violent crimes should face penalties that last for their lifetime, even if they serve out a sentence in prison. And that includes loss of firearms privileges. If they chose to get an illegal gun after getting out of prison, again, they made a choice with full knowledge of the penalties.
If ya can't do the time, don't do the crime.
So there is no forgiveness with you.
That's similar to saying if my son does something wrong, I should whip him for the rest of his life for the infraction.
Do you even have an idea of how many felons could possible be in jail, and not REALLY be guilty ?
I'm the LA Carry, if they have served their time, then they are finished being punished. Most felons didn't have anything to do with firearms anyway.
It's just another false sense of security ....
To say there's no forgiveness in me is a hard thing man, and you base it soley on a single forum discussion? Harsh brother, harsh.
Come on man, did you even read what I wrote? No, I don't favor extravagent punishment for minor infractions (misdemeanors) nor even for all the laws on the books currently labled as felonies. I said I think there should be repercusions that go beyond jail time for
crimes of violence. I say that because the psycological impact of such crimes go way beyond a trial. Why should the victims of such violence be the only ones to spend a lifetime of sorror, fear or regret? If the son you mentioned should be killed in some random drive-by shooting by some repeat offender parasite on society, would you just blow it off and say Cest la Vie? I doubt it. I doubt any man would or could.
Yes, some people end up in prison for violent crimes that are the result of "the moment" A woman trying to stop an abusive husband from hurting her, a guy, seeing someone trying to steal his car, grabs a gun and blasts away, hitting a bystander. Do these people sit in prison and indure sorror, fear and regretat theresult of their actions? Probably. But there are too many who just don't give a damnabout the lives of others, who walk up to a random stranger on a streetcornerand beathim bloody aspart of some gang initiationor start shooting into a crowd of people becausehe saw someone standing among them who once "dissed" him.
And yes, there are innocent people in prison. They have their champions and I wish them all luck. If they succed in getting released, then any record of incarceration should be expunged and they should be allowed to live their lives free of any stigma.
It's gone way off topic here, if y'all want to keep this discussion going let's do it on a seperate thread. If not, I'm done here.
