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Ryan Frederick sentencing today

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There has been atleast 3 crimes involving people inpersonating police officers in the last 3 weeks in the Hampton roads area. The first one from 2 weeks ago was a HOME INVASION, with a "no knock" style entry,a FAMILY was robbed and their car stolen, and just 2 days ago two different incidents of people being pulled over,by guys with "cop" cars complete with lights.

No knock is stupid, the CPD should be sued by the detetives family for allowing such unsound tactics, and for what, a few pot plants, not machine guns or RPG's or even to much fertelizer, justa few freakin pot plants, WTF!
 
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Also here in Chesapeake their has been two separate occasions in a couple weeks of someone impersonating police. CPD doesn't think they are linked. That means two different people. No one has been caught yet.
 
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News said here some city's are reviewing how they get rid of old police stuff. Some city's destroy while others auction them off. Police lights included!
 
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Ryan Frederick got 7 years. That really means 5 years & 10 months. With timecredited for time servedhe will be out in 4 years and 4 months.

Pretty steep sentence for defending yourself from a home assault.
 
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Thundar wrote:
Ryan Frederick got 7 years. That really means 5 years & 10 months. With timecredited for time servedhe will be out in 4 years and 4 months.
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Eh? The news report on the first page of this thread says he was sentenced to 10 years, which really means 7 years served.
 
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Thundar wrote:
Pretty steep sentence for defending yourself from a home assault.
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Actually I think a jury of his peers believed that he did not defend his home against anything...at least their verdict would indicate such.
 
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Wooley wrote:
Thundar wrote:
Pretty steep sentence for defending yourself from a home assault.
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Actually I think a jury of his peers believed that he did not defend his home against anything...at least their verdict would indicate such.
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It's not surprising, when the prosecution's first (and most important) "witness" was the deceased's widow, who was not there and did not witness anything.

The defense objected before the trial to including her as a witness, but felt attacking her on the stand would do more damage than good.
 
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Someone needed to testify for the record to the fact that the detective is no longer living. Could have used a coroner, or a supervisor...I think Commonwealth's Attorney, in this case, did a great job in prosecuting the case to the best of their ability.
 
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KBCraig wrote:
Wooley wrote:
Thundar wrote:
Pretty steep sentence for defending yourself from a home assault.
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Actually I think a jury of his peers believed that he did not defend his home against anything...at least their verdict would indicate such.
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It's not surprising, when the prosecution's first (and most important) "witness" was the deceased's widow, who was not there and did not witness anything.

The defense objected before the trial to including her as a witness, but felt attacking her on the stand would do more damage than good.
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Sounds like grounds for appeal to me...... It would have been fine for her to testify during the sentencing hearing but what did she have to offer during the trial except to prejudice the jury? Did she offer evidence of guilt somehow????
 
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Neplusultra wrote:
KBCraig wrote:
Wooley wrote:
Thundar wrote:
Pretty steep sentence for defending yourself from a home assault.
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Actually I think a jury of his peers believed that he did not defend his home against anything...at least their verdict would indicate such.
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It's not surprising, when the prosecution's first (and most important) "witness" was the deceased's widow, who was not there and did not witness anything.

The defense objected before the trial to including her as a witness, but felt attacking her on the stand would do more damage than good.
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Sounds like grounds for appeal to me...... It would have been fine for her to testify during the sentencing hearing but what did she have to offer during the trial except to prejudice the jury? Did she offer evidence of guilt somehow????
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Nope, they started the trial with a victim impact statement, which should have only been heard at sentencing.
 
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marshaul wrote:
How is that not grounds for appeal, or even a mistrial?
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I believe it should be grounds for appeal. It obviously won't be a mistrial, since that would have to be the ruling of the same judge who allowed the testimony in the first place.
 
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Wooley wrote:
Just let him peacefully serve out his sentence.
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You've demonstrated since day one you think Frederick deserves what he got. So, you can see why I'll take this with a grain of salt. I may have no ability to affect the outcome, but I will speak out against injustice.
 
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I just don't feel its unjustice Marshaul. I've followed both sides of this from the get go...not that the pro LE folks had much to say.

I'm concerned with CPD practices here, but them screwing up doesn't make it ok for him to shoot blindly through a hole in the door without identifying his target.

I agree with a lot of what's shared here, but I have to respectfully disagree on this one.

Grain of salt? I can only hope so, this IS the internet afterall. :)
 
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