zigziggityzoo wrote:
DrTodd wrote:
ghostrider wrote:
When the officer ordered the "hands over head", it was a detention.
The way it was written, I wasn't sure if the officer said it to her husband or her, or all of them. Since you seem to be saying she was the person to whom the officer referred, you are right, she was stopped.
Thanks for the correction.
It was only directed at him. The other two were just ordered to stay back. They weren't even assigned an officer to watch/question them, even though multiple were present.
So I guess I did read it correctly? My original point still stands, then. If the PO says anything to me, I ignore it until I am told to stop or am given any other clear indication that I am not free to go. This eliminates the question of the relative "voluntariness" of my interaction by bringing it up to the "Terry Stop", articulable suspicion, level. But informing them of the pistol is the last thing I say until I start asking whether I may leave.
I know this can be very difficult for
all of us at some point or another. We are confident we are "right" when it comes to understanding firearms law and want to avoid escalating the situation. Or perhaps we believe that by informing the officer that they are mistaken in regards to the particular law, they will say "Gee, I guess I am wrong, have a nice day."
Has this ever happened? I can't recall any posts listed in MI/OC where it has. IMHO, 99.9% of the time all one is going to do is say something that "will be used against you in a court of law".
An official stop by an LEO necessitates disclosure of concealed carry; but that is all they should get. If you want to inform during those "gray" interactions others have mentioned, I think that may be prudent also.
But, when you do inform, make sure that those words are your last until you ask if you are free to go.