j w mathews
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Being fairly new to this site, and lacking the time to read every post on every thread (including all the states) of the OC Forums, I apologize in advance if the following matters have been discussed elsewhere.
I start with the premise that the main interest of OCDO is self-defense, as opposed to carrying handguns openly while hunting or in the field plinking, etc. When open carrying, those who do so openly advertise they're armed. There have been (rare) cases where police officers in uniform have been mugged by hoodlums to steal their guns. To some criminal types, walking around OC'ing might be the same as having a bullseye target pinned to your back.
Well-trained leos are taught various weapon-retention tactics should they get into fights with suspects. Also, many departments require use of holsters designed to make it difficult for other people to grab the officer's gun.
So my first question is have any OC'ers thought about weapons-retention tactics and shared information as to where civilians who are not leos might get such training? How about types of holsters? I've seen one post on the holster thread asking about a retention holster, but there is no separate section on the forum exclusively for that sort of holster.
Also I've seen posts in various threads by people relying on the Second Amendment who seemingly have no knowledge of how the US legal system works. Those folks may well find themselves in expensive legal trouble with the possibility of a criminal conviction and loss of their firearm rights because of their lack of knowledge. Would it be a good thing to have a moderators' thread explaining the situation?
Also, I've noticed no general moderators' thread with the following information. Criminal laws vary among all the states. It seems to me that OC'ers would be well-advised to read the criminal laws of their particular state regarding use of force and justifiable homicide. I would also respectfully suggest that persons doing so might wish to consult a criminal attorney to get an understanding of various cases and how the courts have applied the laws of self-defense in their particular state.
Please note that my comments above intend no offense to anyone. I expect most people here have heard the saying that "ignorance of the law is no excuse," and I would hate to see a law-abiding gun owner get in serious legal trouble because of a lack of knowledge.
Being fairly new to this site, and lacking the time to read every post on every thread (including all the states) of the OC Forums, I apologize in advance if the following matters have been discussed elsewhere.
I start with the premise that the main interest of OCDO is self-defense, as opposed to carrying handguns openly while hunting or in the field plinking, etc. When open carrying, those who do so openly advertise they're armed. There have been (rare) cases where police officers in uniform have been mugged by hoodlums to steal their guns. To some criminal types, walking around OC'ing might be the same as having a bullseye target pinned to your back.
Well-trained leos are taught various weapon-retention tactics should they get into fights with suspects. Also, many departments require use of holsters designed to make it difficult for other people to grab the officer's gun.
So my first question is have any OC'ers thought about weapons-retention tactics and shared information as to where civilians who are not leos might get such training? How about types of holsters? I've seen one post on the holster thread asking about a retention holster, but there is no separate section on the forum exclusively for that sort of holster.
Also I've seen posts in various threads by people relying on the Second Amendment who seemingly have no knowledge of how the US legal system works. Those folks may well find themselves in expensive legal trouble with the possibility of a criminal conviction and loss of their firearm rights because of their lack of knowledge. Would it be a good thing to have a moderators' thread explaining the situation?
Also, I've noticed no general moderators' thread with the following information. Criminal laws vary among all the states. It seems to me that OC'ers would be well-advised to read the criminal laws of their particular state regarding use of force and justifiable homicide. I would also respectfully suggest that persons doing so might wish to consult a criminal attorney to get an understanding of various cases and how the courts have applied the laws of self-defense in their particular state.
Please note that my comments above intend no offense to anyone. I expect most people here have heard the saying that "ignorance of the law is no excuse," and I would hate to see a law-abiding gun owner get in serious legal trouble because of a lack of knowledge.