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    http://www.scstatehouse.gov/sess118_.../bills/794.htm

    Looks like SC is joining Montana, Tx and Utah


    A BILL TO AMEND CHAPTER 31, TITLE 23 OF THE 1976 CODE, RELATING TO FIREARMS, BY ADDING ARTICLE 9, THE "SOUTH CAROLINA FIREARMS FREEDOM ACT", TO PROVIDE THAT A FIREARM, FIREARM ACCESSORY, OR AMMUNITION MANUFACTURED AND RETAINED IN SOUTH CAROLINA IS EXEMPT FROM FEDERAL REGULATION UNDER THE COMMERCE CLAUSE OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES. Whereas, the tenth amendment to the United States Constitution guarantees and reserves for the states all powers not granted to the federal government in the Constitution; and Whereas, the ninth amendment to the United States Constitution guarantees to the people rights not granted in the Constitution and reserves to the people of South Carolina certain rights. The guaranty of those rights is a matter of contract between the state and people of South Carolina and the United States; and Whereas, the regulation of intrastate commerce is vested in the states under the ninth and tenth amendments to the United States Constitution, particularly if not expressly preempted by federal law. Congress has not expressly preempted state regulation of intrastate commerce pertaining to the manufacture on an intrastate basis of firearms, firearms accessories, and ammunition; and Whereas, the second amendment to the United States Constitution reserves to the people the right to keep and bear arms as that right was understood at the time that South Carolina was admitted to statehood in 1788, and the guaranty of the right is a matter of contract between the state and people of South Carolina and the United States as of the time that the compact with the United States was agreed upon and adopted by South Carolina and the United States in 1788; and Whereas, Article I, Section 20 of the South Carolina Constitution clearly secures to South Carolina citizens, and prohibits government interference with, the right of individual South Carolina citizens to keep and bear arms. This constitutional protection is unchanged from the 1895 South Carolina Constitution, which was approved by Congress and the people of South Carolina, and the right exists as it was understood at the time that the compact with the United States was agreed upon and adopted by South Carolina and the United States in 1895. Now, therefore, Be it enacted by the General Assembly of the State of South Carolina: SECTION 1. Chapter 31, Title 23 of the 1976 Code is amended by adding: "Article 9 South Carolina Firearms Freedom Act Section 23-31-700. This article may be cited as the 'South Carolina Firearms Freedom Act'. Section 23-31-705. For purposes of this article: (1) 'Borders of South Carolina' means the boundaries of South Carolina described in Article I, Section 1 of the 1895 South Carolina Constitution. (2) 'Firearms accessories' means items that are used in conjunction with or mounted upon a firearm but are not essential to the basic function of a firearm, including, but not limited to, telescopic or laser sights, magazines, flash or sound suppressors, folding or aftermarket stocks and grips, speedloaders, ammunition carriers, and lights for target illumination. (3) 'Generic and insignificant parts' includes, but is not limited to, springs, screws, nuts, and pins. (4) 'Manufactured' means that a firearm, a firearm accessory, or ammunition has been created from basic materials for functional usefulness, including, but not limited to, forging, casting, machining, or other processes for working materials. Section 23-31-710. (A) A personal firearm, a firearm accessory, or ammunition that is manufactured commercially or privately in South Carolina and that remains within the borders of South Carolina is not subject to federal law or federal regulation, including registration, under the authority of Congress to regulate interstate commerce. (B) This section applies to a firearm, a firearm accessory, or ammunition that is manufactured in South Carolina from basic materials and that can be manufactured without the inclusion of any significant parts imported from another state. (1) Generic and insignificant parts that have other manufacturing or consumer product applications are not firearms, firearms accessories, or ammunition. (2) Basic materials such as unmachined steel and unshaped wood are not firearms, firearms accessories, or ammunition. (C) Basic materials are subject only to intrastate commerce regulation. (D) Firearms accessories that are imported into South Carolina from another state and that are subject to federal regulation as being in interstate commerce do not subject a firearm to federal regulation under interstate commerce because they are attached to or used in conjunction with a firearm in South Carolina. Section 23-31-715. This article does not apply to the following: (1) a firearm that cannot be carried and used by one person; (2) a firearm that has a bore diameter greater than one and one half inches and that uses smokeless powder, not black powder, as a propellant; (3) ammunition with a projectile that explodes using an explosion of chemical energy after the projectile leaves the firearm; or (4) a firearm that discharges two or more projectiles with one activation of the trigger or other firing device. Section 23-31-720. A firearm manufactured or sold in South Carolina under must have the words 'Made in South Carolina' clearly stamped on a central metallic part, such as the receiver or frame." SECTION 3. This act takes effect upon approval by the Governor.


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    Thanks to the West and the South, there is still hope for Free America. Cheers for these states and all who sail in them.

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    You are only posting a bill to amend.

    If this passes, what does it mean and what chance does it have to pass?

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    thejax wrote:
    You are only posting a bill to amend.

    If this passes, what does it mean and what chance does it have to pass?
    It ammends the current firearms law to include an additional section that contains the text of the bill posted.

    and what chance.. Who knows.. but any chance is better than no chance..

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    love this great state.

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    And Alaska

    "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin

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    I am not a lawyer nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. All of the whereas talk drives me up a wall.

    Can someone put this in lay terms? Thanks.

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    warlockmatized wrote:
    I am not a lawyer nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. All of the whereas talk drives me up a wall.

    Can someone put this in lay terms? Thanks.
    IANAL myself.. but the gist of it is this...

    THe State of SC, when this passes, is basically saying that any firearm or ammunition that is made in the State of SC for use inside SC by a resident of SC can not, and will not be regulated by the Federal Government. So if for some reason the administration passes draconian gun laws prohibiting anything, if it's made here.. We can still buy it and not suffer the harm done to our 2nd ammendment rights.

    Anyone disagree with my synopsis?

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    Check out the sovereignty story on World Net Daily this a.m. -- very relevant to Second Amendment question.

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    GizmoHD wrote:
    warlockmatized wrote:
    I am not a lawyer nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. All of the whereas talk drives me up a wall.

    Can someone put this in lay terms? Thanks.
    IANAL myself.. but the gist of it is this...

    THe State of SC, when this passes, is basically saying that any firearm or ammunition that is made in the State of SC for use inside SC by a resident of SC can not, and will not be regulated by the Federal Government. So if for some reason the administration passes draconian gun laws prohibiting anything, if it's made here.. We can still buy it and not suffer the harm done to our 2nd ammendment rights.

    Anyone disagree with my synopsis?
    Pretty much it, now if we can get a gun or ammo manufacturer to set up shop in SC we would be OK. This bill was also introduced last session but since there was no manufacturer to push passage it died in committee. If Remington were to agree to build a plant in SC it could get on the fast track to passage.

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    GizmoHD wrote:
    warlockmatized wrote:
    I am not a lawyer nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. All of the whereas talk drives me up a wall.

    Can someone put this in lay terms? Thanks.
    IANAL myself.. but the gist of it is this...

    THe State of SC, when this passes, is basically saying that any firearm or ammunition that is made in the State of SC for use inside SC by a resident of SC can not, and will not be regulated by the Federal Government. So if for some reason the administration passes draconian gun laws prohibiting anything, if it's made here.. We can still buy it and not suffer the harm done to our 2nd ammendment rights.

    Anyone disagree with my synopsis?
    As long as the firearm is not a machine gun and .50 or smaller caliber.

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    OK got it. Thanks for the replies.

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    Hef wrote:
    GizmoHD wrote:
    warlockmatized wrote:
    I am not a lawyer nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. All of the whereas talk drives me up a wall.

    Can someone put this in lay terms? Thanks.
    IANAL myself.. but the gist of it is this...

    THe State of SC, when this passes, is basically saying that any firearm or ammunition that is made in the State of SC for use inside SC by a resident of SC can not, and will not be regulated by the Federal Government. So if for some reason the administration passes draconian gun laws prohibiting anything, if it's made here.. We can still buy it and not suffer the harm done to our 2nd ammendment rights.

    Anyone disagree with my synopsis?
    As long as the firearm is not a machine gun and .50 or smaller caliber.
    The bill has been introduced in both the House and Senate. and as far as .50 caliber!
    Section 23-31-715. This article does not apply to the following:
    (1) a firearm that cannot be carried and used by one person;
    (2) a firearm that has a bore diameter greater than one and one half inches and that uses smokeless powder, not black powder, as a propellant;
    (3) ammunition with a projectile that explodes using an explosion of chemical energy after the projectile leaves the firearm; or
    (4) a firearm that discharges two or more projectiles with one activation of the trigger or other firing device.
    Wouldn't that be 1.50 Caliber?

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    so no 40mm grenade launchers allowed, eh?



    (1.5"=38.1mm)
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    TO PROVIDE THAT A FIREARM, FIREARM ACCESSORY, OR AMMUNITION MANUFACTURED AND RETAINED IN SOUTH CAROLINA IS EXEMPT FROM FEDERAL REGULATION
    If a SC resident moves out of state and brings his SC manufactured gun to another state is this legal under SC law? If the person never offers it for sale then it still has no effect on interstate commerce. Would a compact between states to recognize each others locally manufactured firearms still be able to bypass the interstate commerce excuse?

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    PT111 wrote:
    Hef wrote:
    GizmoHD wrote:
    warlockmatized wrote:
    I am not a lawyer nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. All of the whereas talk drives me up a wall.

    Can someone put this in lay terms? Thanks.
    IANAL myself.. but the gist of it is this...

    THe State of SC, when this passes, is basically saying that any firearm or ammunition that is made in the State of SC for use inside SC by a resident of SC can not, and will not be regulated by the Federal Government. So if for some reason the administration passes draconian gun laws prohibiting anything, if it's made here.. We can still buy it and not suffer the harm done to our 2nd ammendment rights.

    Anyone disagree with my synopsis?
    As long as the firearm is not a machine gun and .50 or smaller caliber.
    The bill has been introduced in both the House and Senate. and as far as .50 caliber!
    Section 23-31-715. This article does not apply to the following:
    (1) a firearm that cannot be carried and used by one person;
    (2) a firearm that has a bore diameter greater than one and one half inches and that uses smokeless powder, not black powder, as a propellant;
    (3) ammunition with a projectile that explodes using an explosion of chemical energy after the projectile leaves the firearm; or
    (4) a firearm that discharges two or more projectiles with one activation of the trigger or other firing device.
    Wouldn't that be 1.50 Caliber?
    Damn, I missed that. You're right. I guess the law would exempt DD's under 1.50" bore diameter. I could build my own 20mm rifle without NFA registration!

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