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    On 12May2009 at 1000 hrs I entered the Verizon Wireless on 5600 West and Approx 3000 South next to five guys. Entered the store to pay my bill when a Davis Security Officer approched me and stated

    Davis Security: Are you a cop

    Me I am Not

    Davis You can't carry that here it against the law

    Me: no it is not

    Davis Yes it is

    Me: States the Utah Code to him

    Davis I am calling the cops

    Me: Go about paying my bill

    Davis Outside calling WVCPD

    Me Speaks to store manager Danny who has no problems and is caught in the middle of the situation and does not have a voice to tell the security officer to back down

    Officer Ron Woods I belive is his name





    RONALD M WOODS
    KAYSVILLE
    SECURITY COMPANIES & GUARDS
    UNARMED PRIVATE SECURITY OFFICER
    374732-6303
    ACTIVE

    I get in my car and drive away while the guard is attempting to get my plate which he did not get does not know my name or who I am kinda had to chuckle. Could just Imagine the conversation with the dispatch/officer

    I called WVCPD to inform them what happened and give the officer my Name and my side of the story. Officer laughs ask if I have a valid CFP I stated yes he laughs and says thanks

    I will be calling the District Supervisor tommorow to inform them what a crappy company they hired

    here is the scary part

    Unarmed s/o officer approches a armed suspect. Officer approches from the back and on my gun side does not Identify himself with his hand towards my firearm and in a abrupt motion approches me from behind.

    where do they teach this in training. It could have been worse but was not

    Where does a S/O get off telling me the law and the store manager I was breaking the law. When in fact he was wrong and caused a commotion with visitors in the store causing them to be concerned because of his behavior. He made everything worse when if he would have said nothing and Observed and reported what happened.

    I will contact Davis Security and Verizon tommorow and keep you posted

    Thanks

    Zach
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    Well. Zach. At least THIS time you had WVCPD on YOUR side . They seemed to be up to par and not panicking. We have helped them along quite well.

    Thank you for doing your part



    TJ

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    The three C's: Cool, Calm, collected.

    Well handled, gunsfreak.

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    hmm.... I may need to go cell phone shopping soon.

    Well handled.

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    Spoke with the general Manager for Verizon Mr Miller very pro gun and was very sorry it happened. As of today the security officer and the company was pulled from the store so no more Davis Security at Verizon

    Very Positive I will continue my bussiness with verizon

    Spoke with Davis Security General Manager and will re educate the guard and submitt him to more training

    Very Positive have to Thank WVCPD For ther role in a positive outcome and of course TJ for educating the entire WVCPD on what not to do
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    Bravo! Well-handled, and the eventual outcome very NEARLY perfect. The only thing we could wish would have been a bit better (well, other than the security officer not being an idiot) was this:

    gunsfreak4791 wrote:
    Officer laughs ask if I have a valid CFP I stated yes he laughs and says thanks
    Whether or not you have a valid CFP is irrelevant. Well, if you were carrying loaded it's relevant, but assuming you didn't tell the officer you were carrying hot he had no reason to ask about your CFP.

    Still, this is a HUGE improvement over TJ's early experiences with WVCPD.

    Thanks TJ!

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    nice job on keeping it cool.

    ”The great body of our citizens shoot less as times goes on. We should encourage rifle practice among schoolboys, and indeed among all classes, as well as in the military services by every means in our power. Thus, and not otherwise, may we be able to assist in preserving peace in the world… The first step – in the direction of preparation to avert war if possible, and to be fit for war if it should come – is to teach men to shoot!”
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    gunsfreak4791 wrote:
    Spoke with the general Manager for Verizon Mr Miller very pro gun and was very sorry it happened. As of today the security officer and the company was pulled from the store so no more Davis Security at Verizon

    Very Positive I will continue my bussiness with verizon

    Spoke with Davis Security General Manager and will re educate the guard and submitt him to more training

    Very Positive have to Thank WVCPD For ther role in a positive outcome and of course TJ for educating the entire WVCPD on what not to do
    One thing Verizon Wireless is known for and that is their customer service. Some may not agree, but they have been rated very high on a consistent basis. That was a very positive experience.

    Davis Security definitely needs to educate their guards on Utah gun carry laws and how to approach people they want to talk to.

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