wylde007
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mpolo79 wrote:
mpolo79 wrote:
You're either a fool or a coward.
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First Time OC'er (Scared to because of LEO's)
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TexasNative
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Let me merely be the first in what may be a long line of folks who say that accusation is unwarranted, and something I'd personally rather not see here (although I certainly have no authority).
And there are many reasons beyond being a fool or a coward for not wanting to open carry.
~ Boyd
Let me merely be the first in what may be a long line of folks who say that accusation is unwarranted, and something I'd personally rather not see here (although I certainly have no authority).
And there are many reasons beyond being a fool or a coward for not wanting to open carry.
~ Boyd
wylde007
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None that apply here.
Read what he wrote. I challenge you to find another reason.
None that apply here.
Read what he wrote. I challenge you to find another reason.
TexasNative
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It's not up to me to determine someone else's rationale for their opinion. I'm merely stating that I think it's out of line to insult someone, even if you don't believe they have a reasonable justification for their opinion.
~ Boyd
It's not up to me to determine someone else's rationale for their opinion. I'm merely stating that I think it's out of line to insult someone, even if you don't believe they have a reasonable justification for their opinion.
~ Boyd
wylde007
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Think of me what you will. I stand by my convictions.
Dan Moore might disagree with you as well, and he's BEEN THERE, DONE THAT.
Think of me what you will. I stand by my convictions.
Dan Moore might disagree with you as well, and he's BEEN THERE, DONE THAT.
mpolo79
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wylde007 wrote:
Every institution in this country is shot through with systematic racism. Only a profoundly uneducated man, mentally ill with denial, would fail to see that.
In Shenandoah, Pennsylvania, six white teenagers beat a mexican immigrant to death and just got acquitted of all serious charges by an all white jury. The facts surrounding this case are absolutely astounding. From the all white jury that made racist remarks in jury deliberation, to the police who refused to arrest the white teenagers for 2 weeks, to the prosecuters who deliberately tried to lose. This was a straight up murder where all the town officials essentially became accessories after the fact.
If six mexican immigrants had beat a white teenager to death, they all would have been convicted of everything on the scantest of evidence. How can anyone really doubt that?
Do you think it would be wise to be of mexican descent and exercise your right to open carry in Shenandoah, PA or any other part of the country that is predominantly white? Hell no.
Eileen Burke is a retired Philly Police Officer who was at the scene of the crime. She personally knew some of the murderers and was a rock solid witness for the prosecution. She was never called to testify by the prosecution since her testimony would have left no room for the jury to lie and say they had reasonable doubt. In this interview she gives an absolutely damning indictment of how purely racist and evil this country can be.
http://a25.video2.blip.tv/2680001276013/Shenandoah-InterviewOfEileenBurkeShenandoahHateMurder338.wmv
wylde007 wrote:
You just proved my point. Dan's actions almost got him shot. Remember the cop who drew on him? Imagine if that had been late at night in a poor part of town...
Every institution in this country is shot through with systematic racism. Only a profoundly uneducated man, mentally ill with denial, would fail to see that.
In Shenandoah, Pennsylvania, six white teenagers beat a mexican immigrant to death and just got acquitted of all serious charges by an all white jury. The facts surrounding this case are absolutely astounding. From the all white jury that made racist remarks in jury deliberation, to the police who refused to arrest the white teenagers for 2 weeks, to the prosecuters who deliberately tried to lose. This was a straight up murder where all the town officials essentially became accessories after the fact.
If six mexican immigrants had beat a white teenager to death, they all would have been convicted of everything on the scantest of evidence. How can anyone really doubt that?
Do you think it would be wise to be of mexican descent and exercise your right to open carry in Shenandoah, PA or any other part of the country that is predominantly white? Hell no.
Eileen Burke is a retired Philly Police Officer who was at the scene of the crime. She personally knew some of the murderers and was a rock solid witness for the prosecution. She was never called to testify by the prosecution since her testimony would have left no room for the jury to lie and say they had reasonable doubt. In this interview she gives an absolutely damning indictment of how purely racist and evil this country can be.
http://a25.video2.blip.tv/2680001276013/Shenandoah-InterviewOfEileenBurkeShenandoahHateMurder338.wmv
Icetera
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I strongly agree that racism is certainly an issue, but it is a two way street. In other locales, any white on black/hispanic/etc. violent crime could quickly be declared a "hate crime," even if there were no racial motivations. Stereotyping police as being racist and expected to shoot a BMWAG is no better than a police officer assuming a BMWAG must be a crimminal. By avoiding excercising a right, due to the fear of racial prejudice, one only helps to continue that institution of racism. People like Danbus, are the ones that help progress out of the racial frame of mind. NPD is certainly learning, whether they want to or not.
I strongly agree that racism is certainly an issue, but it is a two way street. In other locales, any white on black/hispanic/etc. violent crime could quickly be declared a "hate crime," even if there were no racial motivations. Stereotyping police as being racist and expected to shoot a BMWAG is no better than a police officer assuming a BMWAG must be a crimminal. By avoiding excercising a right, due to the fear of racial prejudice, one only helps to continue that institution of racism. People like Danbus, are the ones that help progress out of the racial frame of mind. NPD is certainly learning, whether they want to or not.
wylde007
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Being suspect based on your race is no reason to fear justice. If you would decide not to carry because you are a minority, then you have acceded to the status quo and invalidated your own sovereignty.
You have voluntarily become a slave to someone else's opinion of you.
It's not something I would do. I consider myself a minority... though I am a white male. I am a staunch Southerner, a Confederate and a vocal separatist. I love America, but I hate the government. Since there is no way to have one without the other, the only option is to either eliminate the government (treason) or secede and claim independence.
Almost every instance of such has led to bloody warfare throughout all of history. I pray it may be different this time, but I doubt it will.
The corruptness of the criminal syndicate pulling strings in Washington is complete. Every utterance and every action speaks to an agenda of tyranny and here we argue over the semantics of race-versus-rights... of which the law recognizes none.
I agree that the law, as exercised, favors certain groups over others. The law, as written, does not. That is just one of many philosophical problems we face in this country.
Being suspect based on your race is no reason to fear justice. If you would decide not to carry because you are a minority, then you have acceded to the status quo and invalidated your own sovereignty.
You have voluntarily become a slave to someone else's opinion of you.
It's not something I would do. I consider myself a minority... though I am a white male. I am a staunch Southerner, a Confederate and a vocal separatist. I love America, but I hate the government. Since there is no way to have one without the other, the only option is to either eliminate the government (treason) or secede and claim independence.
Almost every instance of such has led to bloody warfare throughout all of history. I pray it may be different this time, but I doubt it will.
The corruptness of the criminal syndicate pulling strings in Washington is complete. Every utterance and every action speaks to an agenda of tyranny and here we argue over the semantics of race-versus-rights... of which the law recognizes none.
I agree that the law, as exercised, favors certain groups over others. The law, as written, does not. That is just one of many philosophical problems we face in this country.
n2deepjds
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MSC 45ACP wrote:
MSC 45ACP wrote:
lol, i think it had to be on a Saturday that the mailman came. Being forgetful, i probably forgot to check it and that Sunday i checked the mail and got a big surprise in a thin envelope.
n2deepjds
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MSC 45ACP wrote:
You know what, i dont even shop at the Marine Exchange, but i think they should sale them. It doesnt make any sense not to since the Navy Exchangedoes.
MSC 45ACP wrote:
You know what, i dont even shop at the Marine Exchange, but i think they should sale them. It doesnt make any sense not to since the Navy Exchangedoes.
n2deepjds
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mpolo79 wrote:
mpolo79 wrote:
True, we all have to go out some time. If i so happen to go out by the finger of a LEO, my family will be good from my life insurance policy. I wont be doing anything for the LEO to shoot me anyway, so im not worried about that. I always carry myself as a respectable "person". So being black doesnt have anything to do with it unless the LEO racist and gets off on harassing young black males. Anywho, i have my CHP now, i still OC and i CC just depending on how it feels outside. But being shot by a LEO for doing absolutely nothing hasnt crossed my mind
n2deepjds
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wylde007 wrote:
wylde007 wrote:
LMAO, preach brother!:celebrate
Marco
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Here's a good place to get your feet wet:
http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum54/
The family and I attended last yr, inspite of the long ride thekids had a good time(you'd think they never seen a park before).
I didn't get to socialise as much as I'd like but the few people I met were quality folks.
If you, check out the video on VCDL's website you'll see my mug.
Here's a good place to get your feet wet:
http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum54/
The family and I attended last yr, inspite of the long ride thekids had a good time(you'd think they never seen a park before).
I didn't get to socialise as much as I'd like but the few people I met were quality folks.
If you, check out the video on VCDL's website you'll see my mug.
n2deepjds
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Icetera wrote:
Icetera wrote:
I agree, my girl friend tells me all the time when we go out the house" Do you have to carry that thing ?"I respond with " Yes".....i have my constitutional rights just like any other law abiding citizen, dont matter whatthe color of my skin is. I also serve my country proudly. If i could carry a weapon while i stand my post in bahrain protecting the MSC ships "Military Sealift Command" ( ships that carried the new tanks, humvee, helo's, wreckers) and refueling ships to kuwait and take the old I.E.D'd humvee's and tanks back to the states in 144 degree weather for an entire year, i think i can legally carry Smith & Wesson here in the states, thats just my opinion! So i carry my weapon with me, not only to defend and protect my family and people around me but to let "muggers" know it wont be an easy fight.:lol:
n2deepjds
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Agent19 wrote:
Agent19 wrote:
Thanks, i'll check it out.:dude:
useful_idiot
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Welcome to OCDO n2deepjds!
Make sure you check out the picnic on Saturday, Jun3 6th in Newport News. Lots of people to meet there!
Welcome to OCDO n2deepjds!
Make sure you check out the picnic on Saturday, Jun3 6th in Newport News. Lots of people to meet there!
MSC 45ACP
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n2deepjds wrote:
You know what, i dont even shop at the Marine Exchange, but i think they should sale them. It doesnt make any sense not to since the Navy Exchangedoes.
Ummm... That was a joke. they DO sell M&M's at the Marine Exchange, along with alot of other pogey bait.
n2deepjds wrote:
You know what, i dont even shop at the Marine Exchange, but i think they should sale them. It doesnt make any sense not to since the Navy Exchangedoes.
Ummm... That was a joke. they DO sell M&M's at the Marine Exchange, along with alot of other pogey bait.
n2deepjds
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MSC 45ACP wrote:
MSC 45ACP wrote:
duh!!!!! i knew that, lol:celebrate actually, that was my first time hearing that joke, lmao...thanks for letting me be publicly humiliated......
MSC 45ACP
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sorry dude... you stepped in it. How about I buy you a hamburger this Saturday? I'll even cook it for you!
sorry dude... you stepped in it. How about I buy you a hamburger this Saturday? I'll even cook it for you!
Fetts Lady
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Just to add my 2 cents...I have never OCd. I CC daily. As a female, I have discovered that it is significantly harder to conceal on person as opposed to male concealment. Currently, I purse carry, which is definitely not a preferred method of carry, however I would rather have it there than not at all. My main reason for not OCing right now is my holster...I currently use a Don Hume holster that I love, however it does not have any safety retention and if I open carry with it that concerns me. All this shall be rectified this weekend as we are going holster shopping to find one that has the retention I am looking for as well as the comfort level that I desire. I look forward to OCing once I have the proper equipment!
Just to add my 2 cents...I have never OCd. I CC daily. As a female, I have discovered that it is significantly harder to conceal on person as opposed to male concealment. Currently, I purse carry, which is definitely not a preferred method of carry, however I would rather have it there than not at all. My main reason for not OCing right now is my holster...I currently use a Don Hume holster that I love, however it does not have any safety retention and if I open carry with it that concerns me. All this shall be rectified this weekend as we are going holster shopping to find one that has the retention I am looking for as well as the comfort level that I desire. I look forward to OCing once I have the proper equipment!