Felid`Maximus
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PC 12001 states
Would this exclude any rifle with a barrel greater than 16 inches? It says it would apply to any under 16 inches, but I was just wondering if it might also apply to anything else with a barrel length over 16 inches. I remember reading a memo here from a CA law enforcement agency saying that if someone managed to conceal an unloaded shotgun with an 18" barrel under there coat that it wouldn't be a 12025 violation for carrying a concealed weapon. Does anyone know of any relevant case law which also supports this? Not that I would necessarily do that, but I am wondering.
And I assume that would also exempt a long gun from needing to be in a locked case in a vehicle within 1000 feet of a school zone, which 626.9 seemingly says, and I would imagine that to be the intent of the law. I would also imagine that this should apply to someone carrying a long gun that is unloaded but not in a vehicle, if they happened to be within 1000 feet of a school?
12020 also says that:
I assume a .22 caliber tube ammunition feeding device only refers to tube magazines of the like found on lever-actions and not box magazines?
Also, are .22's exempt from the California Assault Weapons ban? I've heard that, but can't seem to find the code at the moment that says so.
For example would a 10/22 with 10 round magazines and any stock configuration, or a Walther G22 be Califoria legal?
I would of course look in depth into the laws myself before trying to bring a rifle into California, but I figured that I could gather some good information here too.
I would imagine that it would be okay to conceal a magazine for a rifle too if one could conceal a rifle, because if a rifle is not a concealable firearm then how could someone conceal an integral part of it?
PC 12001 states
12001. (a) (1) As used in this title, the terms "pistol,"
"revolver," and "firearm capable of being concealed upon the person"
shall apply to and include any device designed to be used as a
weapon, from which is expelled a projectile by the force of any
explosion, or other form of combustion, and that has a barrel less
than 16 inches in length. These terms also include any device that
has a barrel 16 inches or more in length which is designed to be
Would this exclude any rifle with a barrel greater than 16 inches? It says it would apply to any under 16 inches, but I was just wondering if it might also apply to anything else with a barrel length over 16 inches. I remember reading a memo here from a CA law enforcement agency saying that if someone managed to conceal an unloaded shotgun with an 18" barrel under there coat that it wouldn't be a 12025 violation for carrying a concealed weapon. Does anyone know of any relevant case law which also supports this? Not that I would necessarily do that, but I am wondering.
And I assume that would also exempt a long gun from needing to be in a locked case in a vehicle within 1000 feet of a school zone, which 626.9 seemingly says, and I would imagine that to be the intent of the law. I would also imagine that this should apply to someone carrying a long gun that is unloaded but not in a vehicle, if they happened to be within 1000 feet of a school?
12020 also says that:
(25) As used in this section, "large-capacity magazine" means any
ammunition feeding device with the capacity to accept more than 10
rounds, but shall not be construed to include any of the following:
(A) A feeding device that has been permanently altered so that it
cannot accommodate more than 10 rounds.
(B) A .22 caliber tube ammunition feeding device.
(C) A tubular magazine that is contained in a lever-action
firearm.
I assume a .22 caliber tube ammunition feeding device only refers to tube magazines of the like found on lever-actions and not box magazines?
Also, are .22's exempt from the California Assault Weapons ban? I've heard that, but can't seem to find the code at the moment that says so.
For example would a 10/22 with 10 round magazines and any stock configuration, or a Walther G22 be Califoria legal?
I would of course look in depth into the laws myself before trying to bring a rifle into California, but I figured that I could gather some good information here too.
I would imagine that it would be okay to conceal a magazine for a rifle too if one could conceal a rifle, because if a rifle is not a concealable firearm then how could someone conceal an integral part of it?