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    The Alliance Defense Fund sent a strongly worded letter in February to Mayor Fraim and Bernard Pishko threatening to sue the city if it didn't stop its unconstitutional harassment of visitors at Harborfest.

    Last week, the city of Norfolk responded with a letter of its own, essentially backing down but without apologizing.

    As the ADF says:

    Christians are not required to request permission from the government before exercising their First Amendment rights. We are pleased that Norfolk officials have agreed to respect the constitutional rights of Christians citizens, and that they can now express their faith freely and without fear of harassment or arrest.
    The same ought to be true for gun owners as well.

    Why does Norfolk persist in acting like a Communist regime?

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    Because not enough outrage has been publicly expressed.

    Yet.
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    Harborfest - Norfolk.

    That's the annual OC party is it not.

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    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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    Grapeshot wrote:
    Harborfest - Norfolk.

    That's the annual OC party is it not.

    Yata hey
    That it is. Cant wait.:celebrate

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    We should make it an OC event.

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    Jonesy wrote:
    We should make it an OC event.
    Norfolk Harborfest

    July 3, 4 & 5th

    http://www.festeventsva.org/mini-sit...olk-harforfest

    Yata hey
    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training. Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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    Grapeshot wrote:
    Jonesy wrote:
    We should make it an OC event.
    Norfolk Harborfest

    July 3, 4 & 5th

    http://www.festeventsva.org/mini-sit...olk-harforfest

    Yata hey
    OC Event! OC Event!


    It's be funny if they called out SWAT to deal with the large group of "armed suspects".

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    OC EVENT IT SHALL BE!!!

    SO IT IS WRITTEN...
    "If I know that I am headed for a fight, I want something larger with more power, preferably crew-served.
    However, like most of us, as I go through my daily life, I carry something a bit more compact, with a lot less power."
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    SERPA retention or concealed...

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    Must be done on the 4th, there is no better day!

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    http://www.festeventsva.org/mini-sit...olk-harborfest

    Under rules and regulations

    City of Norfolk Codes and Ordinances Sections 25.2-60 through 25.2-99, govern Town Point Park. For the safety of all, the Norfolk Police may screen persons entering the park.
    Revelation 1911 - And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

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    mobeewan wrote:
    http://www.festeventsva.org/mini-sit...olk-harborfest

    Under rules and regulations

    City of Norfolk Codes and Ordinances Sections 25.2-60 through 25.2-99, govern Town Point Park. For the safety of all, the Norfolk Police may screen persons entering the park.
    May screen, but may not harass or deny law abiding citizen access to public property. They remember how that Norfolk Judge ruled last time.

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    I'd join in for an OC Harborfest but we'll be out of town that weekend.

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    Dispatcher wrote:
    mobeewan wrote:
    http://www.festeventsva.org/mini-sit...olk-harborfest

    Under rules and regulations

    City of Norfolk Codes and Ordinances Sections 25.2-60 through 25.2-99, govern Town Point Park. For the safety of all, the Norfolk Police may screen persons entering the park.
    May screen, but may not harass or deny law abiding citizen access to public property. They remember how that Norfolk Judge ruled last time.
    Great link. I found it, too. Two points:

    Rules and Regulations
    • No animals, except hearing /dog animals and service/dog animals or animals utilized in law enforcement, are permitted in the park, unless otherwise posted.
    • No glass containers may be brought into the park at any time.
    • No alcoholic beverages may be brought into the aprk at any time.
    • Persons must be at least 21 years of age with a valid photo ID to purchase and/or consume alcoholic beverages.
    • Skates, skateboards and bicycles are not permitted in the park.
    • City of Norfolk Codes and Ordinances Sections 25.2-60 through 25.2-99, govern Town Point Park. For the safety of all, the Norfolk Police may screen persons entering the park.
    • Norfolk Festevents reserves the right to postpone, cancel and/or evacuate events due to adverse weather conditions.
    NOTICE: These regulations do not alter or change State or City laws in any manner and you are subject to all applicable State or City laws.

    1) First, it's kind of hard to take Norfolk seriously if they can't reasonably proof-read their copy. See the misspelling above.

    2) I like the added "NOTICE" -- "These regulations do not alter or change State or City laws in any manner and you are subject to all applicable State or City laws."

    That would of course include this state law:
    § 15.2-915. Control of firearms; applicability to authorities and local governmental agencies.

    Everyone who attends and OC's should have a copy of the state preemption law and a digital recorder. Just in case.





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    I haven't read those ordnances (I'm going to find them and read them soon), but if anyone has already, is there any verbage there that has anything to do with OC?


    "If I know that I am headed for a fight, I want something larger with more power, preferably crew-served.
    However, like most of us, as I go through my daily life, I carry something a bit more compact, with a lot less power."
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    MSC 45ACP wrote:
    I haven't read those ordnances (I'm going to find them and read them soon), but if anyone has already, is there any verbage there that has anything to do with OC?

    Even if it did it would be illegal due to preemption.

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    MSC 45ACP wrote:
    I haven't read those ordnances (I'm going to find them and read them soon), but if anyone has already, is there any verbage there that has anything to do with OC?
    No.

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