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    " You can not invade the mainland United States . There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass . " Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto [ Japanese Navy WWII]

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    DEC2008 we bought over 1,529,630,000 rounds of ammunition in just one month . That's with a " B " for billion . We also bought more firearms than China's & India's armies have combined in the last three month alone .

    OK we are concerned about survival in an uncertain world and many of us worry about the attacks onour Second Amendment and OC & CC . BUTare we concerned and worried enough to unite ?

    One blade of grass is very weak however many blades woven together in a united effort are strong . Who said , If we do not hang together we will hang seperately ? Was it John Pierce ?

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    What leads you to believe gun owners are not uniting at this critical juncture in history? We unite behind lobbying organizations like the NRA and GOA, and not to mention where we are spending our dollars.

    Don't think for a second those in power have not noticed any of this taking place.

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    I think for those in power to not notice would be a major mistake for them to make.

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    thx997303 wrote:
    I think for those in power to not notice would be a major mistake for them to make.
    They noticed how divided we were for the 2008 elections and are now waiting for us to go back to sleep with a fake lalla bye . The ancients even used the individual blades of grass to make very strong body armor .



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    Statesman wrote:
    What leads you to believe gun owners are not uniting at this critical juncture in history?
    1.] Not voting

    2.] Voting for a third party as I did with Ross Perot and got Bill Clinton

    3.] Voting for Mickey Mouse

    4.] Influencing others negatively

    5.] the 2008 election continuance of divisiveness within that gave us this administration

    6.] The ignorance , apathy , and bigotry [ Glenn Beck is a Mormon]

    7.] Fear of Uniting together as a brotherhood

    8.] False leadership by some that only seek : power , sex , and money

    9.] I hate to lose and if our national sovereignty is lost all of the Contitution is lost .

    10.] The propaganda machine against our RKBA is powerful and misleading

    11.] Not voting for Ann Romney if she is nominated to be the First Lady 2012 .



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    The ego it takes to be a staunch OC'er I think procludes us from being very good followers, and none of us really wants to lead the other crazy people.

    Divided we are now, but you might be surprised at how quickly we unite when we action is truly needed.

    IMHO.

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    R a Z o R wrote:
    " You can not invade the mainland United States . There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass . " Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto [ Japanese Navy WWII]

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    DEC2008 we bought over 1,529,630,000 rounds of ammunition in just one month . That's with a " B " for billion . We also bought more firearms than China's & India's armies have combined in the last three month alone .
    Impressive stats (I did my part). Do you have any cites or sources? Do these numbers include law enforcement/military?
    A law-abiding citizen should be able to carry his personal protection firearm anywhere that an armed criminal might go.

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    Theseus wrote:
    The ego it takes to be a staunch OC'er I think procludes us from being very good followers, and none of us really wants to lead the other crazy people.

    Divided we are now, but you might be surprised at how quickly we unite when we action is truly needed.

    IMHO.
    I concur. But unity only comes when circumstances arise. Like the old song from the Last Poets - until the SHTF, everyone is just partying and bullsh*tting, partying and bullsh*tting.....

    I have a friend who was in East Berlin a few days before the Wall came down in 1989 - he was meeting with political activists there and they had great detailed plans, over a 10-20 year period for slowly working away at the institutions that were holding up the Wall and then, before a few more days went by, the People just catalyzed and acted in unity and the Wall came down -

    (those political activists' with their jaws and 10 year plans dropped, joined in to what was already happening) -

    I don't see why it would be any different here.

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    We can consider ourselves Patriots, supporters and defendersof the Constitution. Someone else may say we advocate sedition. Any group that advocates the overthrow of a government or gathers in support of such acts is committing a crime. We must tread carefully, Brothers and Sisters. We Support and Defend the Constitution, against all enemies, Foreign and domestic.

    Sadly, it seems that some of those enemies of the Constitution have made their way into positions very high up in the government. This is a very scary situation, indeed!


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    I am 100% with the Constitution, period, end of story.

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    Raise high our Flag, join ranks, now all together,

    Citizens march, with firm determined tread.

    Souls of our troops and neighbors killed by the enemy,march with us too, and swell the ranks ahead!!

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    R a Z o R wrote:
    Statesman wrote:
    What leads you to believe gun owners are not uniting at this critical juncture in history?


    6.] The ignorance , apathy , and bigotry [ Glenn Beck is a Mormon]

    I notice that you take every opportunity to mention this.

    You got something against Mormons?
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    LeMat wrote:
    R a Z o R wrote:
    Statesman wrote:
    What leads you to believe gun owners are not uniting at this critical juncture in history?


    6.] The ignorance , apathy , and bigotry [ Glenn Beck is a Mormon]

    I notice that you take every opportunity to mention this.

    You got something against Mormons?
    I can vouch for the fact that Brother Razor is an absolute freak for noted Mormon Mitt Romney.

    I don't believe in Mormonism myself, but the ones I know are some of the most decent folks I ever met. However, Jainism is another matter. I once dumped a girlfriend because she follwed that religion. Her name, you see, was "Jane":celebrate

    sorry. I just had to......


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    LeMat wrote:
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    Statesman wrote:
    What leads you to believe gun owners are not uniting at this critical juncture in history?


    6.] The ignorance , apathy , and bigotry [ Glenn Beck is a Mormon]

    I notice that you take every opportunity to mention this.

    You got something against Mormons?
    The first time I heard Mitt Romney's name was on MSNBC . The reporter said that Romney would be taken out at the knees because he was a Mormon :shock:

    Your avatar reminds me of a very good friend Don Hendricks of Fullerton , Ca.

    Don was a nationally known watercolor artist , Scout Master , Fullerton State Professor , and Mormon .

    ignorance = I don't know /// should be ...... I want to know

    apathy = I don't care / / / should be ...... I care

    bigotry= it is someone else' fault /// ...... should be ...I am responsible

    I really hate bigotry .


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    Alexcabbie wrote:
    Raise high our Flag, join ranks, now all together,

    Citizens march, with firm determined tread.

    Souls of our troops and neighbors killed by the enemy,march with us too, and swell the ranks ahead!!
    Horst-Wessel-Lied ?
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    ODA 226 wrote:
    Alexcabbie wrote:
    Raise high our Flag, join ranks, now all together,

    Citizens march, with firm determined tread.

    Souls of our troops and neighbors killed by the enemy,march with us too, and swell the ranks ahead!!
    Horst-Wessel-Lied ?
    Not only Horst, but Josef Goebbles invented the "big lie". OH, the song.

    Just so everyone knows I am NOT advocating National Socialism in ANY way. But no doubt about it the Germans had some of the most stirring marches since John Philip Sousa, and "Horst Wessel" was one of those. I just re-worked the lyrics to make it all-inclusive ("Citizens" instead of "SA" (Sturmabeitelungen or Storm Troops) and to make the bad guys we march against be the enemy which killed almost 3.000 of us and who continue to kill our troops, as well as our other enemies both foriegn and domestic (Instead of the "red front and reaction") My intent was to turn the old Fascist anthem on its head, and for us to be marching against precisely what Horst Wessel stood for.

    If I have alarmed or distressed particularly any of my Jewish bretheren or sisteren, I apologize.

    But if even ONE anti recognizes these lyrics and goes :shock::what:well, so much the better.


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    TatankaGap wrote:
    I am 100% with the Constitution, period, end of story.
    "The Iraqis need a Constitution. I say give them ours, after all, we aren't using it anymore." - Jay Leno
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    Who said , If we do not hang together we will hang seperately ? Was it John Pierce ?
    Ben Franklin IIRC.
    "Each worker carried his sword strapped to his side." Nehemiah 4:18

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    I don't care what religious beliefs anyone has, when it comes to supporting the Constitution. We are all in this together, patriots come in all shapes, sizes, religious and social backgrounds. All Ancestries, all of us, we are all Americans, and none of that hyphenated #*%@ either. Either you're American or you're not. Stand tall,,and when and if the time comes,,,
    Keep your powder dry !
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    paramedic70002 wrote:
    Who said , If we do not hang together we will hang seperately ? Was it John Pierce ?
    Ben Franklin IIRC.
    +1... At least he said it in the movie "John Adams".
    "If I know that I am headed for a fight, I want something larger with more power, preferably crew-served.
    However, like most of us, as I go through my daily life, I carry something a bit more compact, with a lot less power."
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    ODA 226 wrote:
    Alexcabbie wrote:
    Raise high our Flag, join ranks, now all together,

    Citizens march, with firm determined tread.

    Souls of our troops and neighbors killed by the enemy,march with us too, and swell the ranks ahead!!
    Horst-Wessel-Lied ?
    Yes it is. But it is not "Citizens," it is 'Sturmabteilungsmann' which means "Storm Troopers." While I like the beat, you can't really dance to it...


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    Die Straße frei den braunen Bataillonen.
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    Just because you don't see planning for unification, doesn't mean that there isn't any going on. Such communications cannot be done on venues such as this. The Obama administration is watching everything and would no doubt come down hard on those that would even hint at rebellion against his Presidency.

    If and when the time comes, Freemen of like minds will come together and mesh as a force that no government ever wants to face. Even Yamamoto knew that it was not wise to piss off freedom loving Americans.

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    A very old saying is "Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum." Which roughly translated means "If you want peace, prepare for war!"

    This is a very true sentiment. It would be foolish to think that an unarmed people would not soon become victims of armed groups be they gangs, government or foreign invaders... those unprepared for war become targets for enslavement and subjugation.

    To prepare, do what most people do here and start going to picnics. Start an Airsoft league or join one that is near you. Get to know like minded patriots and know where they are and make plans to join up if the SHTF.

    Pray for peace... push for peace... make every effort to hold our government accountable peacefully... and only when all else fails.... if all else fails... do we defend ourselves. This is what the saying means... be prepared... do not let yourself be a lone reed or you will be quickly and easily taken down... and the media will portray it as just another Right Wing wacko hoarding guns, ammo and food in a bunker....

    Also, befriend your local law enforcement. Invite any of them you can to group target practice at a local range. Make it a dinner/target practice event and make it a family event. Some will likely turn down the invite... but I'm guessing that some might just take you up on it. Peace officers are mostly good people. They are hard working members of your community. You are a gun owner and you carry weapons... they should get to know you as a stable, good family man or woman. Make the meet up be a bi-annual event. Do it twice a year and even better, why not make it a fund raiser for fallen police officer's children's college fund or something. Make it about a police charity and a mixer.

    Now why do I say this act of peace and act of friendship on the one hand... and prepare for war on the other? I believe they're just people like you and I and they're just as concerned about Constitutional rights as we are. Do you think that all of them would just comply with gun confiscations if ordered? Look up the Oath-Keepers... in fact, print out a pamphlet on the Oath-Keepers with the website and hand it out at your mixer. Tell them about the Oath-Keepers event on Lexington Green where police officers, sheriffs and military personnel all re-affirmed their oath to uphold the Constitution. Ask them to watch the video.

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