njkennelly
Regular Member
So it isn't a "Park" it's a "Complex" so the provision that the director can give written permission to carry there, doesn't apply as she stated in her response.
This is ridiculous.
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Clark County Parks
- Thread starter timf343
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So it isn't a "Park" it's a "Complex" so the provision that the director can give written permission to carry there, doesn't apply as she stated in her response.
This is ridiculous.
Vegassteve
Regular Member
Except it s still listed under the parks department. The name changed yes but the division that covers it didnt.
DVC
Regular Member
The only way that a "park" and a "complex" -- both under the control of the same agency -- are different is if there is a code specifying what each is, and how they are not the same. Otherwise, enforcement of their ban equals "the law is what I say it is," falls under "arbitrary and capricious," and thus is unconstitutional.
Do you folks in the Sharp End have a county-level initiative process?
Do you folks in the Sharp End have a county-level initiative process?
Any update to this thread and struggle for our legal rights? I'm still seeing firearms being illegal on the county website
http://www.clarkcountynv.gov/Depts/...lice/Pages/ClarkCountyCodeRelatedtoParks.aspx
City parks look good to go:
http://www.municode.com/Library#/NV....36PAOTRECUFA_13.36.020PR?searchText=Firearms
http://www.clarkcountynv.gov/Depts/...lice/Pages/ClarkCountyCodeRelatedtoParks.aspx
City parks look good to go:
http://www.municode.com/Library#/NV....36PAOTRECUFA_13.36.020PR?searchText=Firearms
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Your city parks link goes to a main page, not one with the information you were seeing. Can you cite and quote which ordinance?
OC will still cause you to have a bad experience in Clark County and City of Las Vegas and City of North Las Vegas parks.
You can conceal (with a permit) knowing that you will not be caught by those who are themselves in violation of state law which exonerates you.
I can't recommend that you be the test case, but I will renew my pledge to be an expert witness in court, free of charge.
From what I'm reading OC and CC (with permit) are ok in city parks. I'm quoting from the city muni page in the link above:
13.36.020 - Prohibitions.
(A)
The following are prohibited within any City park, recreational facility or public plaza, including any parking area that serves the park, facility or plaza:
(1)
Glass beverage containers;
(2)
Remote control airplanes;
(3)
Remote control boats, except that battery-powered remote control boats may be used in any area that has been designated and posted to allow that activity;
(4)
Camping or lodging, except as otherwise permitted pursuant to Subsection (C);
(5)
Fires, except in barbecue facilities established in a park for that purpose;
(6)
Firearms, archery equipment or other weapons of any kind, except as otherwise provided in Subsection (D);
(7)
The hitting of golf balls, except at facilities specifically designed for that activity;
(8)
The use of park amenities for other than their intended uses, including without limitation washing clothes, bathing or showering (except in connection with the use of a swimming pool); and
(9)
The driving or parking of vehicles in areas other than those established for such use, or in a manner that violates any applicable law or ordinance pertaining to moving and non-moving violations.
(B)
Smoking in any form is prohibited at any of the following locations within a park:
(1)
In or upon any area that has been designated and posted as a children's play area, or within fifty feet of any such area;
(2)
Upon or within fifty feet of any bleachers that are being occupied for purposes of observing sporting events or recreational activities; and
(3)
In or upon any sports field or within fifty feet of the sideline, perimeter fence, or other outer boundary or perimeter of a sports field that is marked as such.
(C)
On a case-by-case basis, the Director may permit overnight camping activities within a park or recreational facility if those activities are sponsored by the City or by a duly-recognized nonprofit youth development organization.
(D)
The prohibition set forth in Paragraph (6) of Subsection (A) shall not apply to:
(1)
Activities specifically approved under this Chapter in connection with a particular event;
(2)
The possession of firearms that is otherwise permitted by State law; or
(3)
The possession of a concealed weapon by a person who holds a valid permit to do so that has been issued under, or is recognized pursuant to, the provisions of NRS 202.3653 to 202.369.
(Ord. No. 6226, § 2, 12-5-12)
13.36.020 - Prohibitions.
(A)
The following are prohibited within any City park, recreational facility or public plaza, including any parking area that serves the park, facility or plaza:
(1)
Glass beverage containers;
(2)
Remote control airplanes;
(3)
Remote control boats, except that battery-powered remote control boats may be used in any area that has been designated and posted to allow that activity;
(4)
Camping or lodging, except as otherwise permitted pursuant to Subsection (C);
(5)
Fires, except in barbecue facilities established in a park for that purpose;
(6)
Firearms, archery equipment or other weapons of any kind, except as otherwise provided in Subsection (D);
(7)
The hitting of golf balls, except at facilities specifically designed for that activity;
(8)
The use of park amenities for other than their intended uses, including without limitation washing clothes, bathing or showering (except in connection with the use of a swimming pool); and
(9)
The driving or parking of vehicles in areas other than those established for such use, or in a manner that violates any applicable law or ordinance pertaining to moving and non-moving violations.
(B)
Smoking in any form is prohibited at any of the following locations within a park:
(1)
In or upon any area that has been designated and posted as a children's play area, or within fifty feet of any such area;
(2)
Upon or within fifty feet of any bleachers that are being occupied for purposes of observing sporting events or recreational activities; and
(3)
In or upon any sports field or within fifty feet of the sideline, perimeter fence, or other outer boundary or perimeter of a sports field that is marked as such.
(C)
On a case-by-case basis, the Director may permit overnight camping activities within a park or recreational facility if those activities are sponsored by the City or by a duly-recognized nonprofit youth development organization.
(D)
The prohibition set forth in Paragraph (6) of Subsection (A) shall not apply to:
(1)
Activities specifically approved under this Chapter in connection with a particular event;
(2)
The possession of firearms that is otherwise permitted by State law; or
(3)
The possession of a concealed weapon by a person who holds a valid permit to do so that has been issued under, or is recognized pursuant to, the provisions of NRS 202.3653 to 202.369.
(Ord. No. 6226, § 2, 12-5-12)
Vegassteve
Regular Member
picnic in a city park then? Seems we are good to go.
Craftymommy
Regular Member
That would be a good family day at a park.
Vegassteve
Regular Member
I could see that. We just need a few folks not carrying and lots of video.
DON`T TREAD ON ME
Regular Member
We have not done something fun like that for a while, Should we get creative on the location?
Here is one that sounds good, Patriot Park: http://www.lasvegasnevada.gov/Find/21141.htm
Here is one that sounds good, Patriot Park: http://www.lasvegasnevada.gov/Find/21141.htm
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28kfps
Regular Member
Anyone had a chance to check out a City Parks rule sign to see what they are now saying about firearms in the park?
Jeannette
Regular Member
I've been to a park recently on the Northwest side and it still says no firearms allowed.
28kfps
Regular Member
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Craftymommy
Regular Member
The closest park to me is behind a school so that falls in the federal law. I don't recall any signs the last time I went to the dog park by me, though but again that is behind a school. I don't know the street names though, both around rainbow and the 95... Sheesh why are all the parks near me, near a school? I guess I should adventure more with my kids on the weekends and see if any have signs up and report back.
Jeannette
Regular Member
Seriously, IGNORE that federal school zone law. It is COMPLETELY unenforced in most states (those very few that care have their own matching state law) because it is known that it has already been once ruled unconstitutional by SCOTUS.
I swear on all that is holy that if you carry in the federal gun free school zone you have a greater chance of getting struck by lightning while realizing that you just won the state lottery (that we don't have) than to have a cop question you about a gun in that federal school zone.
Craftymommy
Regular Member
Mac, good to know. I know it was knocked down but then another one passed that was similar but I did not realize it is pretty much ignored. Come to think of it I dont recall seeing signs on the schools either unless I am missing it. I kbow in California it is posted on the school itself as well as sign posts surrounding the school.
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