Tiger
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I am looking for opinions here. I am a 32 State CCW Permit holder. I don’t drink, Smoke or for any other practical purpose break the law. Here is my story.
I am a band member and have a regular Wednesday night gig. I am also an Open Carry Advocate. (and yes I realize my guinea pig status) At one of my shows the bartender asks me what their CCW policy is. I tell her the bar has no policy. She said a guy complained that I was carrying. I told her seeing she was alone on duty tonight I would just take it off and put it in my hidden holster in the back of my amp. Before I could do that, two cops grab me and put my arms behind my back and stuff me out the front door. They push me up against the wall and tell me that they had a man with a gun call. I told them I am your man. They ask where my gun is. I tell them it’s in my transport case and its sitting on a table in the bar unattended thanks to them. We go in and retrieve it. (They don’t let me touch it) And after checking my legal status and finding everything is ok, they insist that I keep my gun in my car! I didn’t argue. Then the insisted my Buck knife join my gun in the car! I protested and demanded my knife. They complied. Come to find out the person who called 911 that night and was complaining about my gun was an off duty Sergeant from that local police force!!!
Next morning I had a long chat with the Chief of Police on the phone and discussed the mistakes his officers made with me and he said he would use the incident for training purposes. Happy Happy Joy Joy!
Forward to last Wednesday; I finish 4 hours of playing at this same bar. I have to hurry and pack up because I own my own company and can’t get out of the trip planned for the am. I am finishing packing the trailer and as I come out I have a Surefire Turbo head banged in my eyes from 20 feet away and someone yells “PUT YOUR HANDS UP!” I pull my Surefire to return fire as myself and many of the guys that do I do security with at the local bars do to each other. The voice yells out in a manner that I now recognize from watching enough cops on TV. “PUT YOUR HANDS UP AND WALK TOWARD MY VOICE!!!” I do as I am told and when I see that they are cops (BECAUSE THEY NEVER SAID POLICE!) [/b]I say I know why you’re here. I have a permit to carry. I will show it to you. They still insisted I go to my knees in front of the crowd of my fans that is now watching in disbelief just like last time. They take my 45 and my Buck again and then allow me (thank you sir may I please have another!) to stand up and present my papers. The check out and they say someone called and said I had an argument with someone in the bar and flashed my gun to scare them. I told them that that wasn’t true and that I had many witnesses to prove it and that they should go in the bar and find out who called and let them know that filing a false police report is illegal. They refused to even conceder it. Told me if I make people nervous they can make that call with no recourse on my part. They finished with “Well maybe you shouldn’t wear your gun!” I knew where I stood with them and told them I would take it up with the chief in the am. (DID I MENTION THAT ONE OF THE OFFICERS THER POINTING HIS WEPON AT ME THAT NIGHT WAS THE SAME SARGENT THAT CALLED 911 ON ME THE FIRST TIME?) [/b]
Upon calling the chief this morning, he has totally changed his tune and told me to file a complaint. He also added “Maybe you shouldn’t carry your gun in there.”
Am I the only one that smells harassment? Everyone’s input is welcome. Thanks and sorry. Didn’t mean to write a book!
Tiger
I am looking for opinions here. I am a 32 State CCW Permit holder. I don’t drink, Smoke or for any other practical purpose break the law. Here is my story.
I am a band member and have a regular Wednesday night gig. I am also an Open Carry Advocate. (and yes I realize my guinea pig status) At one of my shows the bartender asks me what their CCW policy is. I tell her the bar has no policy. She said a guy complained that I was carrying. I told her seeing she was alone on duty tonight I would just take it off and put it in my hidden holster in the back of my amp. Before I could do that, two cops grab me and put my arms behind my back and stuff me out the front door. They push me up against the wall and tell me that they had a man with a gun call. I told them I am your man. They ask where my gun is. I tell them it’s in my transport case and its sitting on a table in the bar unattended thanks to them. We go in and retrieve it. (They don’t let me touch it) And after checking my legal status and finding everything is ok, they insist that I keep my gun in my car! I didn’t argue. Then the insisted my Buck knife join my gun in the car! I protested and demanded my knife. They complied. Come to find out the person who called 911 that night and was complaining about my gun was an off duty Sergeant from that local police force!!!
Next morning I had a long chat with the Chief of Police on the phone and discussed the mistakes his officers made with me and he said he would use the incident for training purposes. Happy Happy Joy Joy!
Forward to last Wednesday; I finish 4 hours of playing at this same bar. I have to hurry and pack up because I own my own company and can’t get out of the trip planned for the am. I am finishing packing the trailer and as I come out I have a Surefire Turbo head banged in my eyes from 20 feet away and someone yells “PUT YOUR HANDS UP!” I pull my Surefire to return fire as myself and many of the guys that do I do security with at the local bars do to each other. The voice yells out in a manner that I now recognize from watching enough cops on TV. “PUT YOUR HANDS UP AND WALK TOWARD MY VOICE!!!” I do as I am told and when I see that they are cops (BECAUSE THEY NEVER SAID POLICE!) [/b]I say I know why you’re here. I have a permit to carry. I will show it to you. They still insisted I go to my knees in front of the crowd of my fans that is now watching in disbelief just like last time. They take my 45 and my Buck again and then allow me (thank you sir may I please have another!) to stand up and present my papers. The check out and they say someone called and said I had an argument with someone in the bar and flashed my gun to scare them. I told them that that wasn’t true and that I had many witnesses to prove it and that they should go in the bar and find out who called and let them know that filing a false police report is illegal. They refused to even conceder it. Told me if I make people nervous they can make that call with no recourse on my part. They finished with “Well maybe you shouldn’t wear your gun!” I knew where I stood with them and told them I would take it up with the chief in the am. (DID I MENTION THAT ONE OF THE OFFICERS THER POINTING HIS WEPON AT ME THAT NIGHT WAS THE SAME SARGENT THAT CALLED 911 ON ME THE FIRST TIME?) [/b]
Upon calling the chief this morning, he has totally changed his tune and told me to file a complaint. He also added “Maybe you shouldn’t carry your gun in there.”
Am I the only one that smells harassment? Everyone’s input is welcome. Thanks and sorry. Didn’t mean to write a book!
Tiger
