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    Don't know if anyone has seen this, pretty interesting

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    Seen it.

    Can't wait for it.

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    Hmmm, this looks promising, have Springfield Glock and others assemble guns in Virginia, then no federal regs. The state has to pass a law for this to happen?

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    Twenty (20) states are considering this.

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.p...p;pageId=88218

    Virginia is not on the list - we need to push/prod/pull our legislators.

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    Time to start making phone calls it seems.

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    Pagan wrote:
    Time to start making phone calls it seems.
    Time to find out how the new candidates for state office stand on this issue.

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    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training. Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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    Nice..

    But THIS is what I think we really need.



    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124044199838345461.html

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    doug23838 wrote:
    Nice..

    But THIS is what I think we really need.



    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124044199838345461.html
    A Constitutional Convention is a two edged sword. I'm just not sure that we are ready for it yet though I think the mood of the country is swinging in our direction.

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    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training. Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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    doug23838 wrote:
    Nice..

    But THIS is what I think we really need.



    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124044199838345461.html
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    Grapeshot wrote:
    Twenty (20) states are considering this.

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.p...p;pageId=88218

    Virginia is not on the list - we need to push/prod/pull our legislators.

    Yata hey
    Virginiasubmitted a resolution on February 26 of this year called "House Resolution No. 61".

    The problem as I understand it is a resolution has no power in law (please someone correct me here if this is in error).


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    SouthernBoy wrote:
    Grapeshot wrote:
    Twenty (20) states are considering this.

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.p...p;pageId=88218

    Virginia is not on the list - we need to push/prod/pull our legislators.

    Yata hey
    Virginiasubmitted a resolution on February 26 of this year called "House Resolution No. 61".

    The problem as I understand it is a resolution has no power in law (please someone correct me here if this is in error).

    The 10th amendment to the constitution is already the law of the land. The resolution just forces people to look at what apparently some have forgotten about.

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    ravonaf wrote:
    SouthernBoy wrote:
    Grapeshot wrote:
    Twenty (20) states are considering this.

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.p...p;pageId=88218

    Virginia is not on the list - we need to push/prod/pull our legislators.

    Yata hey
    Virginiasubmitted a resolution on February 26 of this year called "House Resolution No. 61".

    The problem as I understand it is a resolution has no power in law (please someone correct me here if this is in error).

    The 10th amendment to the constitution is already the law of the land. The resolution just forces people to look at what apparently some have forgotten about.
    Yes sir, I know that the Constitution is the supreme law of the land and the Bill of Rights is even more significant. What I was wondering is if a state offers a resolution, is it legally binding upon the state to adhere to its tenents or do the actions within have to go through the legislature and then on to the governor?




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    Si vis pacem, para bellum.

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    Jonesy wrote:
    Hmmm, this looks promising, have Springfield Glock and others assemble guns in Virginia, then no federal regs.
    To hell with some established company assembling guns here. I'm not sure that would even work, since sending the parts here for assembly would be "interstate commerce" which Congress has legitimate control over. I'd rather see "the Virginia Gun Company, Inc." started right here, maybe in Richmond next to the old Tredegar Iron Works. Perhaps the state could give tax incentives for this, as it would employ a lot of our citizens and create a product that many would buy, especially because the purchases wouldn't be encumbered by federal "infringements".

    I can dream, can't I?

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    Dutch Uncle wrote:
    Jonesy wrote:
    Hmmm, this looks promising, have Springfield Glock and others assemble guns in Virginia, then no federal regs.
    To hell with some established company assembling guns here. I'm not sure that would even work, since sending the parts here for assembly would be "interstate commerce" which Congress has legitimate control over. I'd rather see "the Virginia Gun Company, Inc." started right here, maybe in Richmond next to the old Tredegar Iron Works. Perhaps the state could give tax incentives for this, as it would employ a lot of our citizens and create a product that many would buy, especially because the purchases wouldn't be encumbered by federal "infringements".

    I can dream, can't I?
    Under the Constitution, congress has no power over interstate commerce other than "to keep and make regular" this mutual endeavor between the states. They have far exceeded their charge in this matter and it's about time the states called their hand in this evil intrusion.

    In the final seconds of your life, just before your killer is about to dispatch you to that great eternal darkness, what would you rather have in your hand? A cell phone or a gun?

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    Dutch Uncle wrote:
    Jonesy wrote:
    Hmmm, this looks promising, have Springfield Glock and others assemble guns in Virginia, then no federal regs.
    To hell with some established company assembling guns here. I'm not sure that would even work, since sending the parts here for assembly would be "interstate commerce" which Congress has legitimate control over. I'd rather see "the Virginia Gun Company, Inc." started right here, maybe in Richmond next to the old Tredegar Iron Works. Perhaps the state could give tax incentives for this, as it would employ a lot of our citizens and create a product that many would buy, especially because the purchases wouldn't be encumbered by federal "infringements".

    I can dream, can't I?
    I guess I agree with you 100% sir.

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    Even Better:

    Tredegar Iron Works... Back in business building Fine Virginia rifles, pistols and shotguns!
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    hlh wrote:
    Grapeshot wrote:
    doug23838 wrote:
    Nice..

    But THIS is what I think we really need.



    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124044199838345461.html
    A Constitutional Convention is a two edged sword. I'm just not sure that we are ready for it yet though I think the mood of the country is swinging in our direction.

    Yata hey
    I agree. A Constitutional Convention could rewrite the Bill of Rights without the 2nd Amendment. There's nothing to keep whomever from throwing out what they want and writing in whatever else. Nothing scares me more than a constitutional convention run by liberals.
    Amen to that.


    In the final seconds of your life, just before your killer is about to dispatch you to that great eternal darkness, what would you rather have in your hand? A cell phone or a gun?

    Si vis pacem, para bellum.

    America First!

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    SouthernBoy wrote:
    hlh wrote:
    Grapeshot wrote:
    doug23838 wrote:
    Nice..

    But THIS is what I think we really need.



    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124044199838345461.html
    A Constitutional Convention is a two edged sword. I'm just not sure that we are ready for it yet though I think the mood of the country is swinging in our direction.

    Yata hey
    I agree. A Constitutional Convention could rewrite the Bill of Rights without the 2nd Amendment. There's nothing to keep whomever from throwing out what they want and writing in whatever else. Nothing scares me more than a constitutional convention run by liberals.
    Amen to that.

    +2
    "If I know that I am headed for a fight, I want something larger with more power, preferably crew-served.
    However, like most of us, as I go through my daily life, I carry something a bit more compact, with a lot less power."
    (unknown 'gun~writer')

    Remington 1911 R1 (Back to Basics)
    SERPA retention or concealed...

    "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." ~Thomas Jefferson
    (Borrowed from "The Perfect Day" by LTC Dave Grossman)

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