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    I was wondering. Is anyone walking/oc'ing in a Memorial Day Parade?
    That would be awesome. I thought about it here in Chilton but the parade goes through the school zone.

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    Won't there be members of the American Legend walking with there firearms?

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    True but I think they are cleared by the police department.

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    You can go into a school zone with proper permission. Clearly the city will grant permission for such demonstrations or other such events.

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    J.Gleason wrote:
    I was wondering. Is anyone walking/oc'ing in a Memorial Day Parade?
    That would be awesome. I thought about it here in Chilton but the parade goes through the school zone.
    It's interesting that you should ask this question. I asked the SAME question of the La Crosse Police department. I asked them for a "copy of the application" that one would need to fill out, and the reply from the La Crosse Police Chief, "I can give no such permit."

    It may be to late for Memorial Day, but we should ALL submit "Open records requests" asking the schools/police/etc. for "copies of the application" and the "permit" that was granted.

    My bet is, there is no such thing, just like in La Crosse, and LEO simply choose to ignore the law. If we video taped the vets carrying, and then discovered they "had no permission," that certainly would put LEO in a tough spot, wouldn't it.

    Don't get me wrong, I support our vets BUT, they are after all, ordinary citizens under the law, and if the can carry, then so should the rest of us. I am out of town this weekend, but I will be submitting those open records requests to the city clerk, chief of police, and the school district. If no permission was given, then what do we do next?



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    Find out who is in charge of the parade organization, they should have an application.

    We don't really have a parade for Memorial Day in Chilton. Just the VFW walking up the street to the Cemetery for a memorial service.

    I just thought it would be great to get some oc'ers walking in the parade and maybe carrying a banner that said something like " OPENCARRY.ORG Support and defend your 2nd Amendment rights!"

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    I am looking into getting the OC picture of the nine(9) people made into an eight(8) foot long banner. I could maybe get a couple made. Then we could carry them in the various parades and hand out the Wisconsin Pamphlet the Para and pointman had made.

    I've been thinking about this a while, but not sure if that is the right course of action.

    I will definitely bring this up for discussion at Mr. Greg's on Monday.



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    I attend the Monona parade most years. It's the primary parade held in the Madison area, and I have often thoughtabout the possibilitysome pro-gun rights exhibit in the parade. The downside, the parade begins at Monona Grove High School and ends in the parking lot of Madison La Follette High School. Two schools, two school zones, two school districts! Oh, and it passes Sennett Middle School which is adjacent to La Follette.
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    A buddy and I are going to OC at Stoddards parade and hand out info on Wisconsin Gun Laws. Gonna check to see if our Vets got written approval for the school zone issue. Otherwise we got someone to hold our guns 1000ft from school zone, then we'll OC from there. Sucks cuz thats about 1/2 the town we can't OC in.


    edit....Got the OK from local PD to OC the whole parade, I did have to agree to an unloaded firearm within that 1000ft school zone though

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    If you want the pamphlet we had at the La Crosse County Picnic, PM me. I can get you a bunch to hand out.

    Also, post date and time of Parade, I will walk with you.



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    I this this is a great way to get the word out that we are walking for everyone's rights.

    Wish I could be there for this one.

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    If you want the pamphlet we had at the La Crosse County Picnic, PM me. I can get you a bunch to hand out.

    Also, post date and time of Parade, I will walk with you.

    Got a bunch of copies made. Appreciate it though. Stoddard 1030

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    Woodchuck wrote:
    edit....Got the OK from local PD to OC the whole parade, I did have to agree to an unloaded firearm within that 1000ft school zone though
    Was it a verbal OK, or did PD have a form for you to fill out?

    I was in at the Monona parade today and saw a Civil War group with pistol and musket walking along, wonder who gave the permission for them? As Shotgun already said the route includes Monona HS and two Madison schools along the way.

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    I personally know the cop and it was verbal, also he talked to the Vernon County Sheriff Dept b4 parade and got ok for it also. I realize verbal was far from the best option. But I also know that the Vets didn't have written permission also.

    All went well though, 3 of us OC'ed and handed out about 175 pamphlets without incident. Glad we did it.


    edit.... I had to explain alot of the legality to the cop, he didn't seem to know either way

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    Great job guys! I am very impressed and proud of what you did!

    You know that is a very good way for new OC'ers to break in as well. Now you will feel comfortable anywhere.

    Carry on

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    Woodchuck wrote:
    I personally know the cop and it was verbal, also he talked to the Vernon County Sheriff Dept b4 parade and got ok for it also. I realize verbal was far from the best option. But I also know that the Vets didn't have written permission also.

    All went well though, 3 of us OC'ed and handed out about 175 pamphlets without incident. Glad we did it.


    edit.... I had to explain alot of the legality to the cop, he didn't seem to know either way
    Excellent!! The more we educate the public the better. My apologies for not being able to make it, as I was en-route to the Milwaukee Open Carry picnic.

    We have many parades like this coming up, Dairy Days, Butter Fest, Catfish Days, etc. We should try to have a presence at each event. I am working on getting an "open carry" banner made.

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    I was at the Monona parade. The VFW actually loaded and shot rifles 10 feet from the Monona High School doors. It was quite the ceremony.

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    Clint Starin wrote:
    I was at the Monona parade. The VFW actually loaded and shot rifles 10 feet from the Monona High School doors. It was quite the ceremony.
    Clint, welcome to opencarry.org.

    It would be great if you could PM me contact information for your city clerk. I would like to make an open records request to see what type of application/permitting process exists for events like this in your town.

    Thank you,

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    Clint Starin wrote:
    I was at the Monona parade. The VFW actually loaded and shot rifles 10 feet from the Monona High School doors. It was quite the ceremony.
    I wonder how many children and parents were traumatized by the guns within the school zone? My guess NONE!!

    I sent the Monona police chief a letter a couple weeks ago but never got a response back regarding how they would handle OC. Guess I need to send another, asking about the school zone permit also.

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    Clint Starin wrote:
    I was at the Monona parade. The VFW actually loaded and shot rifles 10 feet from the Monona High School doors. It was quite the ceremony.
    We in the VFW use blanks for 21 gun solutes. The barrels of the M1s have welded in plugs with a small opening in them which allows enough gas pressure to cycle the operating rod. Just thought that I would through that out there.
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    pvtschultz wrote:
    Clint Starin wrote:
    I was at the Monona parade. The VFW actually loaded and shot rifles 10 feet from the Monona High School doors. It was quite the ceremony.
    We in the VFW use blanks for 21 gun solutes. The barrels of the M1s have welded in plugs with a small opening in them which allows enough gas pressure to cycle the operating rod. Just thought that I would through that out there.
    I knew the blanks, but didn't know the plugs. But that wasn't what I was going for. For some anti's the mere sight of the gun would have sent them into a tizzy. That didn't happen i'm guessing. I'm sure if anyone else outside a parade setting carrying a plugged gun with blanks would receive a different result.

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    trailblazer2003 wrote:
    pvtschultz wrote:
    Clint Starin wrote:
    I was at the Monona parade. The VFW actually loaded and shot rifles 10 feet from the Monona High School doors. It was quite the ceremony.
    We in the VFW use blanks for 21 gun solutes. The barrels of the M1s have welded in plugs with a small opening in them which allows enough gas pressure to cycle the operating rod. Just thought that I would through that out there.
    I knew the blanks, but didn't know the plugs. But that wasn't what I was going for. For some anti's the mere sight of the gun would have sent them into a tizzy. That didn't happen i'm guessing. I'm sure if anyone else outside a parade setting carrying a plugged gun with blanks would receive a different result.
    Agreed. I do as a member of the VFW have a problem with people questioning the permits of the VFW and American Leagion to carry within 1000' of a school zone though. All that it would take is a couple anti-gun zealots on the school boards to put the practice to an end. We carry inside the local high school escorting the colors during Veteran's Day ceremonies also (albeit unloaded). It is a great sacrifice that was paid by millions for whom these ceremonies are held. While I do think the 1000' school zone statute is an outright enfringement on our rights, I do not think that questioning the right of the VFW to carry and discharge their "weapons" during parades and honor guard activies is justified. In fact, it is down right dangerous.
    Ecclesiastes 10:2 - "A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but the fool's heart to the left."

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    I do not think that questioning the right of the VFW to carry and discharge their "weapons" during parades and honor guard activies is justified. In fact, it is down right dangerous.
    I agree, leave it alone. There has to be another way.

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