thx997303
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Calm down there guy, this is a discussion not an argument.
Calm down there guy, this is a discussion not an argument.
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Obama Signs Credit Card Bill Allowing Weapon Carrying in National Parks!
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AWDstylez
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thx997303 wrote:
Who said I'm not calm? I'm pointing out the obvious fact that the claim has nothing to support it.
thx997303 wrote:
Who said I'm not calm? I'm pointing out the obvious fact that the claim has nothing to support it.
buster81
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thx997303 wrote:
thx997303 wrote:
I think you will see that that is the only way for him to havea discussion.
buster81
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AWDstylez wrote:
Where is your proof of this? Prove it, or it is not so.
AWDstylez wrote:
Where is your proof of this? Prove it, or it is not so.
AWDstylez
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buster81 wrote:
I dunno, he graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law. Do you think he might at least be average in intelligence?
As for the specific issue of park carry, I'm not going to prove a negative. You made the claim that he's against it, you prove the claim.
buster81 wrote:
I dunno, he graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law. Do you think he might at least be average in intelligence?
As for the specific issue of park carry, I'm not going to prove a negative. You made the claim that he's against it, you prove the claim.
thx997303
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Well starting to cuss screams calm cool and collected.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/federal-eye/2009/05/national_parks_gun_law_take_ef.html?hpid=moreheadlines
http://www.voyageurs.org/2009/04/20/obama-administration-and-the-gun-regulation/
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/top/all/6431800.html
Keep in mind, I can't say anything for the accuracy of these stories, as I am not familiar with them. Especially that last one, looks kinda communist to me.
Well starting to cuss screams calm cool and collected.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/federal-eye/2009/05/national_parks_gun_law_take_ef.html?hpid=moreheadlines
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #f8f8f8"http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/1533013,CST-NWS-guns19.article
http://www.voyageurs.org/2009/04/20/obama-administration-and-the-gun-regulation/
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/top/all/6431800.html
Keep in mind, I can't say anything for the accuracy of these stories, as I am not familiar with them. Especially that last one, looks kinda communist to me.
AWDstylez
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thx997303 wrote:
So the best you can quote is that he didn't comment on it? Do you realize what the outrage of his supporters would be if he said something positive about it? The very fact that he saidnothing negative furthers my point. Then you proceed to shoot yourself in the foot with an article thatPROVES point:
thx997303 wrote:
So the best you can quote is that he didn't comment on it? Do you realize what the outrage of his supporters would be if he said something positive about it? The very fact that he saidnothing negative furthers my point. Then you proceed to shoot yourself in the foot with an article thatPROVES point:
Sonora Rebel
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AWDstylez wrote:
"Ein Reich,Ein Volk, Ein Obama!"
The anti-s are ANTI's.... Look no further than Chicago which spawed this 'obamanation'.
'See any 'citizens' with guns in Chi-town? Logical enough? When's the last time you've entered a national park armed (or entered a national park at all?) I do it daily... it's the only way in/out of here. All of us who live on the pheriphery of the parks must do it, not just the visitors. Do you actually think people tear down their weapons just to pass thru the parks? It doesn't happen.The 'law' was a non-enforced law to begin with. The park director (here) named Broadhead wouldn't even address the subject at the community meeting last year. I queried her directly. This may differ from the kiosk entranced 'parks' in some places... but that's not the case here... There is no entrance... 'just signs. 'Saguero National Park' There's no 'No weapons allowed' notations. Trail riders carry defensive handguns and the Rangers know it.
As somebody else wrote:"What the hell is your problem, seriously?"
AWDstylez wrote:
Obama is an metrocentric Alinskyite Marxist who mesmerisingly postures w/o substance on a daily basis. I believe you are the type who wouldascribe to:
"Ein Reich,Ein Volk, Ein Obama!"
The anti-s are ANTI's.... Look no further than Chicago which spawed this 'obamanation'.
'See any 'citizens' with guns in Chi-town? Logical enough? When's the last time you've entered a national park armed (or entered a national park at all?) I do it daily... it's the only way in/out of here. All of us who live on the pheriphery of the parks must do it, not just the visitors. Do you actually think people tear down their weapons just to pass thru the parks? It doesn't happen.The 'law' was a non-enforced law to begin with. The park director (here) named Broadhead wouldn't even address the subject at the community meeting last year. I queried her directly. This may differ from the kiosk entranced 'parks' in some places... but that's not the case here... There is no entrance... 'just signs. 'Saguero National Park' There's no 'No weapons allowed' notations. Trail riders carry defensive handguns and the Rangers know it.
As somebody else wrote:"What the hell is your problem, seriously?"
buster81
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AWDstylez wrote:
This doesn't prove your statement. You cannot possibly prove that he "is plenty capable of seeing the idiocy of being able to carry all around the rest of the state... just not in the park." To steal a phrase from you, prove it or it is not so.
To answer your question "Do you think he might at least be average in intelligence?" I have no idea, but I certainly hope he is smarter than the rest of us.
AWDstylez wrote:
I made no such claim at all. That claim was made by others. I cannot prove that he held his nose, nor can I prove that he didn't hold his nose. For all I know, he was ecstatic about signing it. It is entirely possible that while signing it, he reached under his desk, tapped Biden on the head, and said "Thank god someone fixed this National Park thing, it was really keeping me up at night."
AWDstylez wrote:
This doesn't prove your statement. You cannot possibly prove that he "is plenty capable of seeing the idiocy of being able to carry all around the rest of the state... just not in the park." To steal a phrase from you, prove it or it is not so.
To answer your question "Do you think he might at least be average in intelligence?" I have no idea, but I certainly hope he is smarter than the rest of us.
AWDstylez wrote:
I made no such claim at all. That claim was made by others. I cannot prove that he held his nose, nor can I prove that he didn't hold his nose. For all I know, he was ecstatic about signing it. It is entirely possible that while signing it, he reached under his desk, tapped Biden on the head, and said "Thank god someone fixed this National Park thing, it was really keeping me up at night."
thx997303
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AWDstylez
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buster81 wrote:
I just did, actually, your buddy did it for me. You must have missed it...
Your attempt to turn things around was full of fail.
Chalk up another win for intelligence and reason, and another loss for rhetoric and propaganda.
buster81 wrote:
I just did, actually, your buddy did it for me. You must have missed it...
Your attempt to turn things around was full of fail.
Chalk up another win for intelligence and reason, and another loss for rhetoric and propaganda.
buster81
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AWDstylez wrote:
AWDstylez wrote:
Prove it.
AWDstylez
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buster81 wrote:
You were wrong = you fail.
buster81 wrote:
You were wrong = you fail.
AWDstylez
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thx997303 wrote:
LOL Now there's an unbiased, object source. :quirky
Even IF that article isn't a load of crap (and it probably is, given the source), you STILL haven't proved anything. You're managed to fight your case for his neutrality, which still leaves you miles off of him actually opposing national park carry. You've proved my point again by failing to prove yours, thank you.
thx997303 wrote:
LOL Now there's an unbiased, object source. :quirky
Even IF that article isn't a load of crap (and it probably is, given the source), you STILL haven't proved anything. You're managed to fight your case for his neutrality, which still leaves you miles off of him actually opposing national park carry. You've proved my point again by failing to prove yours, thank you.
buster81
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AWDstylez wrote:
This doesn't prove your statement.
AWDstylez wrote:
This doesn't prove your statement.
buster81
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AWDstylez wrote:
AWDstylez wrote:
You were wrong.
thx997303
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Sorry if I'm confusing your argument withfacts.
No longer reading this thread.
Sorry if I'm confusing your argument withfacts.
No longer reading this thread.
Sonora Rebel
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thx997303 wrote:
thx997303 wrote:
When the facts don't fit the liberal theory... dismiss the facts. The agenda is omnipotent. 'Common liberal malady. You're right... it's a waste of time.
AWDstylez
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Sonora Rebel wrote:
That attitude does wonders for the image of the pro-2A movement.
AWDstylez:
Sonora Rebel wrote:
As opposed to what? The right-wing approach:state opinion/baseless claim and accept as fact? When called out, say the other side is liberal and hates America, continue to accept baseless claim as fact.
That attitude does wonders for the image of the pro-2A movement.
AWDstylez:
Chaingun81
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When your kidis crying for no real reasonand screaming just out of principle and logic fails to stop him, just walk out of the room and stop paying attention. Every kid is doing it for attention and attention only, no matter positive ornegative one,andhe/she will not stop for any logical argument just to keep the attention coming.
You stop paying attention and it's over in a matter of minutes. Any children psychologist will tell you that. AWD is acting like the above mentioned kid - treat him the same way. He does it on a daily basis, on many threads. Just stop playing with him and he'llcalm down. Don't go down to his level.
When your kidis crying for no real reasonand screaming just out of principle and logic fails to stop him, just walk out of the room and stop paying attention. Every kid is doing it for attention and attention only, no matter positive ornegative one,andhe/she will not stop for any logical argument just to keep the attention coming.
You stop paying attention and it's over in a matter of minutes. Any children psychologist will tell you that. AWD is acting like the above mentioned kid - treat him the same way. He does it on a daily basis, on many threads. Just stop playing with him and he'llcalm down. Don't go down to his level.