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    Battle Hymn

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    " Ragged Old Flag " Johnny Cash

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    " Taps The Buglar's Cry " Theorigin of sounding taps ...

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    "Battle Hymn of the Republic" was written by Harriet Beecher Stowe when she observed the vast Union encampment at Munson Hill just west of Bailey's Crossroads between Alexandria and Falls Church, VA.

    I wrote a rather lengthy poem (which mercifully I shall not reproduce here) about my impression of the guard-changing ceremony at the Tomb of theUnknowns here in Arlington Cemetery. If you have not seen it in person, make a point of it when you come to the DC area not to leave until you do. The first time I saw it, it moved me to tears especially as I was aware of the symbolism in every movement and word.

    The complete poem can be found at www.justin.tv.com on "Handgunner's Channel" in my bulletins. (I have a large juvenile following and thought it good to put it up for them especially) The constraints of the posting system however mess up some of the verse divisions. I guess if anyone wants I could post it here, but I will wait until there is at least one request.

    However, I will give yall the last three verses:



    "And you, whose loved one never returned;

    This is for your Daddy, who died in the war. My own father survived.

    When I asked him to come and tell about his war, he said:



    "If they want to know about war,

    Then let them come to Arlington"



    Where the dead rest in Honored Glory

    And the Postings

    and Orders

    Remain

    As directed.



    (And yes, that is an actual quote from my father when I asked him to do a presentation for a friend's film project)

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    While truly moving, the Battle Hymn of the Republic was for the "other" side. Being Southern, it hurts a might to see this a tad.

    Still Memorial Day is a time to stop and both remember and give thanks to those who have made the ultimate sacrifice that we might do this for them.

    In the final seconds of your life, just before your killer is about to dispatch you to that great eternal darkness, what would you rather have in your hand? A cell phone or a gun?

    Si vis pacem, para bellum.

    America First!

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    "Happiness is a warm shotgun!!"
    "I am neither a pessimist nor a cynic. I am, rather, a realist."
    "The most dangerous things I've ever encountered were a Second Lieutenant with a map and a compass and a Private who was bored and had time on his hands."

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    Hmmm, maybe I oughta come up with a new name for "Yankee pot roast" in case I ever wind up having you over for dinner But also the "Battle Hymn was a call to arms, not a remembrance.

    Rolling Thunder riders are rattling my windows as I write this. Any ordinary Sunday I would call this a nuisance, but this one weekend of the year it is sweet music, indeed.

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    Alexcabbie wrote:

    The complete poem can be found at http://www.justin.tv.com on "Handgunner's Channel" in my bulletins. I guess if anyone wants I could post it here, but I will wait until there is at least one request.

    Please post the poem . Here is a video that got me .

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xag_KZ36Cv8





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    SouthernBoy wrote:
    While truly moving, the Battle Hymn of the Republic was for the "other" side. Being Southern, it hurts a might to see this a tad.


    SouthernBoy ...

    This song hit # 1 during the Civil War south of the Mason Dixon Line .

    I met my wife at his concert in Memphis . Her seat was next to mine , she is a redhead and I was new in town , then 3 kids later .

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    here you go Southernboy, I did this a couple of years ago:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xvl6d...e=channel_page

    as for the Battle hym:

    it was writen by Julia Ward Howe, not Hariet Beacher Stowe, and was nothing but propaganda designed to spread a false notion of righteousness among the Federal troops.

    as for proper songs to memorialize the American fighting man, I have always been partial to these:

    The ballad of the Green beret:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH4-tOqLH94

    The Marine Corps hymn:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d38xUsc-fyI

    other songs that memorialize the sacrifices of American servicemen

    where were you when the world stopped turning
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvj6zdWLUuk

    courtesy of the red, white and blue:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSWuA-RttGU

    Rooster:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpH5i3xD7tA


    edit: if you don't think that Rooster is a good memorial day song, you should listen to the song a little more carefully. the song was written in memory of one of the bandmembers fathers service in Vietnam.

    another one:
    The AMerican soldier
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyJTIXKI1mA


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    Sorry Unreconstructed, thanks for the correction; but it was still written at Munson Hill, no? Stowe wrote 'Uncle Tom's Cabin" and helped inflame the sentiments that led to the War of Northern Aggression.. Union Repeating rifles were called "Beeccher's Bibles" after her father, and Lincoln is said to have said when he met her "So. You are the little woman who started this big war"

    Be all that as it may, I just had a neighbor turn apaplectic when I said that what a lot of people don't realize is that the Confederate soldiers contributed to the preservation of our freedom too, by showing the Federals that by God it could, too be done and there were people who would do it. You'd have thought I said that Adolf Hitler should have gotten the Nobel Prize.

    Wonder if Obama laid a wreath at the Confederate Memorial at Arlington just as every other president has??

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    When my vets group, Salute to America's Heroes, went to DC for a confrence, we tried to go into Arlington. The gate guard literally told the entire bus of disabled vets that we couldn't go in because it was 20 minutes to close. We were ticked, but what could we do?

    The Vietnam memorial was impressive, even if it was at night and the lights were turned off to it.

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    Ironically, the melodyto "Battle Hymn" was written in the South by William Steffe. "Dixie Land" was writtenin the North (New York City) by Daniel Decatur Emmett (at least he's the accepted person) .

    I was in the Mormon Tabernacle Choir, andthere sang both songs many times. Battle Hymn for me was an expression of the moral goodness that the whole of America should have. Dixie Land reminded me of my travels through the beauty of the southern states. Both songs got ovations inall parts of the U.S., and for that matter in the North (Europe) and in the South (Australia).

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    Alexcabbie wrote:
    Sorry Unreconstructed, thanks for the correction;
    no problem at all...

    unfortunately, far too many folks are brainwashed into believing the federal apologist lies concerning the confederate soldier, and as such can't really contemplate the fact that even though the Confederate States of America was conquered quite early on, that their defiant actions in defense of the constitution left a lasting reminder in the District of Criminals that Americans ( at least at some point in history) were willing to stand up for constitutional principles, which is exactly why they became so demonized in the years and decades following that war.

    I dunno if Obama will lay the wreath or not, but my bet would be that he doesn't do it...



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    Dude , what's on that mountain ?

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    R a Z o R wrote:
    Dude , what's on that mountain ?
    an embossed likeness of three of the most honorable men ever to come from the South, and three of my personal heroes.

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    GOOD OL' REBEL SOLDIER

    by Major Innes Randolph, C.S.A.




    Oh, I'm a good old Rebel soldier, now that's just what I am;
    For this "Fair Land of Freedom" I do not give a damn!
    I'm glad I fit against it, I only wish we'd won,
    And I don't want no pardon for anything I done.

    I hates the Constitution, this "Great Republic," too!
    I hates the Freedman's Bureau and uniforms of blue!
    I hates the nasty eagle with all its brags and fuss,
    And the lying, thieving Yankees, I hates 'em wuss and wuss!

    I hates the Yankee nation and everything they do,
    I hates the Declaration of Independence, too!
    I hates the "Glorious Union" -- 'tis dripping with our blood,
    And I hates their striped banner, and I fit it all I could.

    I followed old Marse Robert for four years, near about,
    Got wounded in three places, and starved at Point Lookout.
    I cotched the "roomatism" a'campin' in the snow,
    But I killed a chance o' Yankees, and I'd like to kill some mo'!

    Three hundred thousand Yankees is stiff in Southern dust!
    We got three hundred thousand before they conquered us.
    They died of Southern fever and Southern steel and shot,
    But I wish we'd got three million instead of what we got.

    I can't take up my musket and fight 'em now no more,
    But I ain't a'gonna love 'em, now that's for sartain sure!
    I do not want no pardon for what I was and am,
    And I won't be reconstructed, and I do not care a damn!




    (varient)

    I am a Rebel sol'jer, that's who 'n whatI am

    And for the Yankee na-shun, I do not give a damn

    I've kill't a hunnert Yank-ees, 'might kill a hunnert more

    An unreconstructed Reb-el, still fightin' my own war.





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    That's Stone Mountain, in Georgia. It is the largest piece of exposed granite in the world. The three men carved into the mountain are Jefferson Davis, General Robert E. Lee, and General Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson.

    As a side note, memorial day was originally started in Georgia as Confederate Memorial Day. http://www.waymarking.com/waymarks/WM2D7W

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    (My generation... )




    8th of November (Big & Rich)

    Said goodbye to his mamma
    As he left South Dakota
    To fight for the Red, White, and Blue.
    He was nineteen and green with a new M-16
    Just doing what he had to do.

    He was dropped in the jungle
    Where the choppers would rumble
    With the smell of napalm in the air.
    And the sergeant said, "Look up ahead"

    Like a dark, evil cloud
    1,200 came down
    on him and 29 more.
    They fought for their lives
    But most of them died
    In the 173rd Airborne.

    (Chorus)
    On the 8th of November,
    The angels were crying
    As they carried his brothers away.
    With the fire raining down
    And the Hell all around
    There were few men left standing that day.
    Saw the eagle fly,
    Through a clear, blue sky
    1965, the 8th of November.

    Now he's fifty-eight
    And his ponytail's grey
    But the battle still plays in his head.
    He limps when he walks,
    But he's strong when he talks
    About the shrapnel they left in his leg.

    He puts on a grey suit
    Over his Airborne tattoo
    And He ties it on one time a year
    And remembers the fallen,
    As he orders a tall one
    And swallows it down with his tears.

    (Chorus)
    On the 8th of November,
    The angels were crying
    As they carried his brothers away.
    With the fire raining down
    And the Hell all around
    There were few men left standing that day.
    Saw the eagle fly,
    Through a clear, blue sky
    1965, the 8th of November.

    Saw the eagle fly,
    Through a clear, blue sky
    1965.

    (Chorus)
    On the 8th of November,
    The angels were crying
    As they carried his brothers away.
    With the fire raining down
    And the Hell all around
    There were few men left standing that day.

    (Chorus)
    On the 8th of November,
    The angels were crying
    As they carried his brothers away.
    With the fire raining down
    And the Hell all around,
    There were few men left standing that day.
    Saw the eagle fly,
    Through a clear, blue sky
    1965, the 8th of November.

    The 8th of November
    The 8th of November

    He said goodbye to his mamma
    As he left South Dakota
    To fight for the Red, White, and Blue.
    He was nineteen and green with a new M-16
    Just doing what he had to do.






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    Sonora Rebel wrote:
    GOOD OL' REBEL SOLDIER

    by Major Innes Randolph, C.S.A.
    while somewhat abbreviated, David Allen Coe performed a fair rendition of the song himself:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vioW1...eature=related

    now for those of you who will no doubt take offense to the song due to the "I hate the declaration, etc." parts, IMO, I believe the author was referring to the hypocrisy involved. You really have to remember the fact that while the declaration clearly states that the people have the unalienable right of the people to alter or abolish government for abuses, and while eh constitution by default legalizes secession, Major Randolph and the hundreds of thousands of other Confederate soldiers were still haveing to engage in war in order to defend those rights against what was supposedly the very government founded by those documents..

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    Green Fields of France - Doesn't matter whose uniform you've worn. This song still hurts.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrQnnZJ68Xo

    Well, how do you do, Private William McBride,
    Do you mind if I sit down here by your graveside?
    And rest for awhile in the warm summer sun,
    I've been walking all day, and I'm nearly done.
    And I see by your gravestone you were only 19
    When you joined the glorious fallen in 1916,
    Well, I hope you died quick and I hope you died clean
    Or, Willie McBride, was it slow and obscene?

    Did they Beat the drum slowly, did the play the pipes lowly?
    Did the rifles fir o'er you as they lowered you down?
    Did the bugles sound The Last Post in chorus?
    Did the pipes play the Flowers of the Forest?

    And did you leave a wife or a sweetheart behind
    In some loyal heart is your memory enshrined?
    And, though you died back in 1916,
    To that loyal heart are you forever 19?
    Or are you a stranger without even a name,
    Forever enshrined behind some glass pane,
    In an old photograph, torn and tattered and stained,
    And fading to yellow in a brown leather frame?

    The sun's shining down on these green fields of France;
    The warm wind blows gently, and the red poppies dance.
    The trenches have vanished long under the plow;
    No gas and no barbed wire, no guns firing now.
    But here in this graveyard that's still No Man's Land
    The countless white crosses in mute witness stand
    To man's blind indifference to his fellow man.
    And a whole generation who were butchered and damned.

    And I can't help but wonder, no Willie McBride,
    Do all those who lie here know why they died?
    Did you really believe them when they told you "The Cause?"
    Did you really believe that this war would end wars?
    Well the suffering, the sorrow, the glory, the shame
    The killing, the dying, it was all done in vain,
    For Willie McBride, it all happened again,
    And again, and again, and again, and again.

    The Minstrel Boy

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vubP...eature=related

    The Minstrel Boy to the war is gone
    In the ranks of death you will find him;
    His father's sword he hath girded on,
    And his wild harp slung behind him;"
    Land of Song!" said the warrior bard,
    "Tho' all the world betrays thee,
    One sword, at least, thy rights shall guard,
    One faithful harp shall praise thee!"

    The Minstrel fell! But the foeman's chain
    Could not bring that proud soul under;
    The harp he lov'd ne'er spoke again,
    For he tore its chords asunder;
    And said "No chains shall sully thee,
    Thou soul of love and brav'ry!
    Thy songs were made for the pure and free,
    They shall never sound in slavery!"

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    P-51 Cadillac of the skies !

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    This was in a old magazine that my dad, a WWII vet, has. He served in Company Bof the 127th Airborne Engineer Battalion, 11th Airborne Division, 1944-1946.



    "Hedy Lamarr is a beautiful gal, and Madaleine Carroll is too.

    But you'll find if you query, a different theory, among any bomber crew.

    For the loveliest thing of which one could sing this side of the heavenly gates,

    is no blonde or brunette of the Hollywood set, but a escort of P-38s.

    Sure we're braver than hell, on the ground all is swell, but in the air it's a different story.

    We sweat out our track through the fighters and flack, we're willing to split up the glory.

    Well theywould'nt reject us so heaven protect us and until all this shooting abates,

    give us thecourage to fight 'em and one other small item. A escort of P-38s."

    Author unknown

    "You can teach 'em, but you cant learn 'em."

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    None of us have ever heard it,

    none of us ever will;

    There's no one left who can give it,

    though you may hear it's echo still.



    You may hear it up near Manassas,

    and down around Gaines Mill;

    In December it echos in Fredricksburg,

    in May, around Chancellorsville.



    It's the "pibroch of Southern fealty",

    it's a Comanche brave's battle cry;

    It's a English huntsman's call to the hounds,

    it's a pig farmer's call to the sty.



    It's a high pitched trilling falsetto,

    it's the yip of a dog in flight;

    It's the scream of a wounded panther,

    it's the shriek of the wind in the night.



    It was yelled when the boys flushed a rabbit,

    it was passed man to man in the ranks;

    It was cheered when they saw their leaders,

    it was screamed when they whipped the Yanks.



    But none of us will ever hear it,

    Though some folks mimic it well;

    No soul alive can truly describe,

    the sound of the Rebel Yell.



    My great, great Grandfather did his share of rebel yelling when he was in Company I, 4th Texas Infantry Regiment, Hood's Texas Brigade in 1862-1863.









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    Sonora Rebel,,my generation also. That and "Arlington" makes a tear run down my eyes every time.
    To my fallen Comrades, all gave some, some gave all,,,another good one
    ‘‘Laws that forbid the carrying of arms... disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.’’ Thomas Jefferson

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    Huck wrote:
    This was in a old magazine that my dad, a WWII vet, has. He served in Company Bof the 127th Airborne Engineer Battalion, 11th Airborne Division, 1944-1946.



    "Hedy Lamarr is a beautiful gal, and Madaleine Carroll is too.

    But you'll find if you query, a different theory, among any bomber crew.

    For the loveliest thing of which one could sing this side of the heavenly gates,

    is no blonde or brunette of the Hollywood set, but a escort of P-38s.

    Sure we're braver than hell, on the ground all is swell, but in the air it's a different story.

    We sweat out our track through the fighters and flack, we're willing to split up the glory.

    Well theywould'nt reject us so heaven protect us and until all this shooting abates,

    give us thecourage to fight 'em and one other small item. A escort of P-38s."

    Author unknown

    LOCKHEED P-38 LIGHTNING


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