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    I just watched it, great job guys! I wish I could have made it down.

    What is the deal with people saying "Licensed firearms" or "Licensed to Carry" I just do not get it? What is so hard for the news people to understand that there are no licensing criteria to exercise your 2A rights in Wisconsin.

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    http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local/46019942.html

    channel 4 coverage of the same picnic

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    Mike wrote: Copy from the Wisconsin Forum:

    Good news spot. Though I was surprised to see the suppressor. Next time I would suggest to leave the suppressor in your house and not carry it on an OC picnic where the news is there. First of all the holster you were using is not conducive to normal OC since it appears to have no retention. Also, the public only sees suppressors in one place...movies....and the criminals always use them for evil (not saying that you are evil, simply identifying the viewpoint of the sheep). While I acknowledge your right to carry those things in that way, that doesn't mean I would do the same. Although someone may have a $3000 gold-accented .44 mag with 8" barrel they love and can legally carry it openly in a shoulder holster, doesn't mean that it is the wisest choice.

    We can also carry shotguns into any tavern. Yet I don't see anybody planning to do that. This is what I am talking about...just because you can do something doesn't mean it is better than another choice.

    I would have made it over, but I had other things that needed to be taken care of. Overall looks like a great event, just my few comments on the suppressor.

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    smithman wrote:
    Good news spot. Though I was surprised to see the suppressor. Next time I would suggest to leave the suppressor in your house and not carry it on an OC picnic where the news is there. First of all the holster you were using is not conducive to normal OC since it appears to have no retention.
    I was free to carry what firearm and firearm accessories as I please during the picnic, and I chose to carry with the suppressor attached, as that's how I carry when I OC back in ND.

    Yes, the holster DOES have retention. It's a Hogue Powerspeed holster, and in addition to having magnets that attach to the slide, it has a lock that deploys inside of the trigger guard that retains the firearm in the holster nearly as well as any standard-method retention holster.

    smithman wrote: "Also, the public only sees suppressors in one place...movies....and the criminals always use them for evil (not saying that you are evil, simply identifying the viewpoint of the sheep). While I acknowledge your right to carry those things in that way, that doesn't mean I would do the same. Although someone may have a $3000 gold-accented .44 mag with 8" barrel they love and can legally carry it openly in a shoulder holster, doesn't mean that it is the wisest choice. "

    And perhaps it's time for the "sheep" to realize that suppressors aren't for criminals, and that normal, everyday people have and carry them?

    FYI, I heard no complaints/negative comments from anyone in attendance about it, on the contrary, everyone there thought it was interesting, and some didn't even know it was legal for a civilian to possess one.

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    I am sorry that I had to leave so early. I would have rather remained.

    It was great meeting some of the people I have been reading/posting with. I am looking forward to more outings in the future





    Jesus, dont forget to post your girlfriendschimichanga recipe!!!!!!!!!! (dont just post the ingredients, some of us barely know what a mixing bowl looks like)
    What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand?

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    bigdaddy1 wrote:
    (dont just post the ingredients, some of us barely know what a mixing bowl looks like)
    Sure do...Otherwise known as a drain pan,....use to change the bikes oil.

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    Naw, thats what tuperwear is for
    What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand?

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    I really enjoyed the party. Thanks for hosting this Greg.

    Oh, and the suppressor was awesome! The only downside for me would be paying so much for that.
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    WITI-TV, MILWAUKEE - Cookouts and picnics are a Memorial Day tradition. But it's rare when the host invites guests to bring their licensed firearms in addition to food.

    Licensed?



    Sigh.....



    Overall, very good shot tho.

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    I thought Ted's take was also very good and gave you all a pat on the back.

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    protias wrote:
    I really enjoyed the party. Thanks for hosting this Greg.

    Oh, and the suppressor was awesome! The only downside for me would be paying so much for that.
    The $3000 permit is a bummer also...

    A number of years back, I was going to start the process to get the permit for full auto (and supressor), but I hear it is a lot harder nowadays. I guess I should not have put it off...

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    WOW Hubert great job with that "clip" you put in your pistol.



    So while jumping on the media and the terms they used, maybe we should educate our own.

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    bigdaddy1 wrote:
    Jesus, dont forget to post your girlfriendschimichanga recipe!!!!!!!!!! (dont just post the ingredients, some of us barely know what a mixing bowl looks like)
    She is my sister and I don't know the recipe:P. I can't eat chimichangas(chesse). And what is a mixing bowl?

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    AaronS wrote:
    protias wrote:
    I really enjoyed the party. Thanks for hosting this Greg.

    Oh, and the suppressor was awesome! The only downside for me would be paying so much for that.
    The $3000 permit is a bummer also...

    A number of years back, I was going to start the process to get the permit for full auto (and supressor), but I hear it is a lot harder nowadays. I guess I should not have put it off...
    $3000 permit? What?

    Should be nothing beyond a $200 tax stamp and a coupla months wait for the approval (well...and the printing, CLEO signoff, background check, etc...but I'm assuming for the sake of argument you don't have a problem with those things)

    The only thing I can think of that's $3000 is the FFL related to 'destructive devices' (which doesn't apply to suppressors or full auto).


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    AaronS wrote:
    The $3000 permit is a bummer also...

    A number of years back, I was going to start the process to get the permit for full auto (and supressor), but I hear it is a lot harder nowadays. I guess I should not have put it off...
    $3000? Yikes. I'm not THAT rich. :P

    The YHM Cobra was around $600 (Bought it from here: http://major-malfunction.com/maj_malf_5u_012.htm , which he lists at $500, but also bought another $75 piston), and ATF charges a $200 tax for the transfer of any NFA firearm (Except AOWs, which are a $5 tax). Total is around $800.

    You don't need a "permit" to own an NFA item, you DO need one to sell NFA items, though, which would be a 01 FFL License and a SOT (Special Occupational Tax).

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    yes the suppressor should have stayed at home.................things like that make it look threatening

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    southside wrote:
    yes the suppressor should have stayed at home.................things like that make it look threatening
    It did stay at home.



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    southside wrote:
    yes the suppressor should have stayed at home.................things like that make it look threatening
    Funny thing is, Mr. Greg was hosting the party, therefore it was at home. :P
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    Mr. Greg wrote:
    AaronS wrote:
    The $3000 permit is a bummer also...

    A number of years back, I was going to start the process to get the permit for full auto (and supressor), but I hear it is a lot harder nowadays. I guess I should not have put it off...
    $3000? Yikes. I'm not THAT rich. :P

    The YHM Cobra was around $600 (Bought it from here: http://major-malfunction.com/maj_malf_5u_012.htm , which he lists at $500, but also bought another $75 piston), and ATF charges a $200 tax for the transfer of any NFA firearm (Except AOWs, which are a $5 tax). Total is around $800.

    You don't need a "permit" to own an NFA item, you DO need one to sell NFA items, though, which would be a 01 FFL License and a SOT (Special Occupational Tax).
    I guess I keep forgeting that I am not on the East coast anymore. I took a quick look at suppressors, and Wisconsin does not list them as limited ownership (I thought it fell under the MG stat). In NJ you need to file paper with the state, and only FFL holders are ever considered. So to get cool stuff, the price is way high. Cool deal for you. The prive was good for you as well I see. The only problem I have, is now I want one!

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    This was a great event!! great food, fun and great guns . I enjoyed the talks i had with all !! look forward to the next i love food:celebrate For all the people that miss out your loss

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    The first thing that jumped out at me was the first reporter saying "licensed firearms". This ingrained bias is a big reflection of the work needed to change perception. It assumes laws to be in place. I hear stuff like that all the time.

    Maybe that can be point of conversation whena reporter "goes there"?



    Great job guys! Highly successful groundwork for the future. Congrats to all who made it there and made it possible. You guys are pushing back like champs.

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    Good coverage. Sorry I didn't make it.

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    southside wrote:
    yes the suppressor should have stayed at home.................things like that make it look threatening
    Aren't guns, by their nature as a weapon, somewhat 'threatening?' I say that partially sarcastically.

    The key word is "look." Many people consider the mere existence of pointy sticks to be a threat. It's subjective.

    Is not the purpose of Open Carry both defensive and educational? To eliminate the false perception that guns are a threat merely by presence?

    I fail to see how a can on the nose makes it any better or worse. Why should we trade our hearing for our safety?

    Suppressors are politically maligned just as the firearms they are attached to. You may as well suggest that the muffler on your car 'should have stayed at home.' Is that sarcastic? Maybe, but certainly no more than suggesting that the muffler on a gun should.

    Especially in an educational venue...
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