rolexbenz190e
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Well, I just got my hands on a box of 5th Generation Winchester Ranger T-Series in .45 ACP 230gr and decided to do a review on them with the Remington Golden Saber 185gr .45 ACP. I have some time to type so I figured I would share my findings with all of you! This is an open review so say anything you want to say, but no flaming. I'm not a professional so everything I type and say is strictally my opinion only... And I would enjoy all of your opinions as well. So lets get to the review!
(The pictures provided are all taken by me and the tests performed were performed by me as well)
Ranger T-Series ammunition is quite hard to find amongst the common folk... Only intended for law enforcement, sometimes common folk are lucky enough to get their hands on a box or two of this.
On the other hand, Remington Golden Sabers are A LOT easier to get your hands on, BUT doesn't provide as much theoretical "stopping power" as the Ranger T-Series (5th Gen).
I took 1 gallon jugs out to the range and lined them up then shot them from 7 yards. All ammo was fired from my Kimber Ultra Carry II (3" barrel).
The Rangers penetrated through 4 gallons and stopped inside the 4th gallon. The Golden Sabers penetrated through 5 gallons and came out of the side of the 5th gallon, I had to find it about 2ft away from the 5th gallon.
As you can see, the shape of the expanded ammunition is a lot different. Though, you can see that they both have the same idea as when they are expanded, they are made to cut through things. The "talons" from the Rangers are definitely a scary thought. As you can also see the "Sabers" on the Golden Sabers stick out enough to be considered "cutting edges"....
Since we are talking about the "talons" and the "cutting edges"... In the close up pics below, you can see that the Ranger's Talons are razor sharp.... and that is NOT an exaggeration. They are super sharp and could cut through A LOT, especially when traveling at 875fps. Not only are the talons razor sharp, they are 3x's longer then the previous generations of "talon" ammo by Winchester (aka Black Talons, Winchester SXT, Ranger SXT, Ranger T-Series 4th gen). As the picture below illustrates, the talon it self extends all the way to Abraham Linclon's neck on a penny!
As for the Golden Sabers (pictured below)... The cutting edges do not extend out too far... Just enough to "scrape by". Considering the cutting edges extend only 1/16th of an inch as opposed to the Ranger's talons at 5/16th of an inch, stopping power by the Golden Saber is not even comparable to the 5th Gen Ranger T's. The .45 ACP provides plenty stopping power, yes... But for those who would like a little more security in the ammo they fire, comparing is very necessary.
How about expansion? Great question! Here are the specs that came from my testing:
Expansion
Ranger T-Series 5th Gen:
(from talon to talon) 1 1/16"
(from lead ends) 3/4th"
Golden Saber:
(from saber to saber) 11/16"
(from lead ends) 5/8"
In the next pictures below, you can see the comparison between the expansion of the Ranger T 5th Gen and the Golden Saber against some of our american currency. The Ranger T-Series does a GREAT job of expanding to larger than the size of a quarter (including the talons)... Unfortunately, the Golden Saber barely expands to the size of a penny.
Now... Which one do YOU think would best suit you for your defensive ammo? The option is always your own... Some ammo feels different then other for some. Some are more comfortable with ammo that others ARE NOT comfortable with. So it is a personal decision. I just hope that I brought some light into the subject.
There are TONS of other "prefered" defensive ammo out there (Federal HST, Gold Dot, MagTech, Hornady, etc)... But for the review's sake, lets stick to the Ranger T's and the Golden Saber
I hope all of you were NOT bored reading this... This is my first review and I figured I would share my findings... Now the thread is in YOUR hands :celebrate
I'm sure you guessed what my prefered carry ammo is
Thanks for reading!
Well, I just got my hands on a box of 5th Generation Winchester Ranger T-Series in .45 ACP 230gr and decided to do a review on them with the Remington Golden Saber 185gr .45 ACP. I have some time to type so I figured I would share my findings with all of you! This is an open review so say anything you want to say, but no flaming. I'm not a professional so everything I type and say is strictally my opinion only... And I would enjoy all of your opinions as well. So lets get to the review!
(The pictures provided are all taken by me and the tests performed were performed by me as well)
Ranger T-Series ammunition is quite hard to find amongst the common folk... Only intended for law enforcement, sometimes common folk are lucky enough to get their hands on a box or two of this.
On the other hand, Remington Golden Sabers are A LOT easier to get your hands on, BUT doesn't provide as much theoretical "stopping power" as the Ranger T-Series (5th Gen).
I took 1 gallon jugs out to the range and lined them up then shot them from 7 yards. All ammo was fired from my Kimber Ultra Carry II (3" barrel).
The Rangers penetrated through 4 gallons and stopped inside the 4th gallon. The Golden Sabers penetrated through 5 gallons and came out of the side of the 5th gallon, I had to find it about 2ft away from the 5th gallon.
As you can see, the shape of the expanded ammunition is a lot different. Though, you can see that they both have the same idea as when they are expanded, they are made to cut through things. The "talons" from the Rangers are definitely a scary thought. As you can also see the "Sabers" on the Golden Sabers stick out enough to be considered "cutting edges"....
Since we are talking about the "talons" and the "cutting edges"... In the close up pics below, you can see that the Ranger's Talons are razor sharp.... and that is NOT an exaggeration. They are super sharp and could cut through A LOT, especially when traveling at 875fps. Not only are the talons razor sharp, they are 3x's longer then the previous generations of "talon" ammo by Winchester (aka Black Talons, Winchester SXT, Ranger SXT, Ranger T-Series 4th gen). As the picture below illustrates, the talon it self extends all the way to Abraham Linclon's neck on a penny!
As for the Golden Sabers (pictured below)... The cutting edges do not extend out too far... Just enough to "scrape by". Considering the cutting edges extend only 1/16th of an inch as opposed to the Ranger's talons at 5/16th of an inch, stopping power by the Golden Saber is not even comparable to the 5th Gen Ranger T's. The .45 ACP provides plenty stopping power, yes... But for those who would like a little more security in the ammo they fire, comparing is very necessary.
How about expansion? Great question! Here are the specs that came from my testing:
Expansion
Ranger T-Series 5th Gen:
(from talon to talon) 1 1/16"
(from lead ends) 3/4th"
Golden Saber:
(from saber to saber) 11/16"
(from lead ends) 5/8"
In the next pictures below, you can see the comparison between the expansion of the Ranger T 5th Gen and the Golden Saber against some of our american currency. The Ranger T-Series does a GREAT job of expanding to larger than the size of a quarter (including the talons)... Unfortunately, the Golden Saber barely expands to the size of a penny.
Now... Which one do YOU think would best suit you for your defensive ammo? The option is always your own... Some ammo feels different then other for some. Some are more comfortable with ammo that others ARE NOT comfortable with. So it is a personal decision. I just hope that I brought some light into the subject.
There are TONS of other "prefered" defensive ammo out there (Federal HST, Gold Dot, MagTech, Hornady, etc)... But for the review's sake, lets stick to the Ranger T's and the Golden Saber
I hope all of you were NOT bored reading this... This is my first review and I figured I would share my findings... Now the thread is in YOUR hands :celebrate
I'm sure you guessed what my prefered carry ammo is
Thanks for reading!