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    Now this isn't meant to start a "my plastic is better than your plastic" argument but I just had a great experience with the people over at the Glock U.S. HQ in Smyrna GA and had to heap some praise.

    I stopped by the HQ to ask about an issue I was having with the recoil spring on my G20 and after being assured that it was working as designed I also happened to mention a concern I had with the magazines that came with my G38. Without missing a beat the Glock rep offered to grab me a new magazine to try and excused himself to go get it.A minute or two later he returned with not one, but two magazines and told me to give them a shot and come on back if the problem wasn't resolved to my satisfaction. Now I realize that 2 free mags is a drop in the bucket to the folks at Glock but in my 7 years in the Atlanta area I've unfortunately come to expect the bare minimum when it comes to customer service so this really shocked me. Now that I think about it I have found an inordinately high number of great people in the gun industry but that still doesn't lessen the impression the actions of the Glock folks have left on me. It's really nice to find a company/business that stands behind it's product with great customer service!

    I think I needs to be pickin' me up a new piece of Austrian Tupperware...



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    That's awesome :celebrate

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    BTW, my plastic is better than your plastic. ;-p

    Couldn't resist. I'm an FN guy, so the Glock vs. XD debate amuses me. That said, I've never had to deal with FN customer service, so I can't compare. Glad to hear about your experience though. I had to talk to about 10 people justto get a replacement safety key from Remington before.

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    Glock 20 ROCKS

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    JBinMontana wrote:
    Glock 20 ROCKS
    It does indeed.
    Peace through superior firepower

    Luke 11:21
    "When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are undisturbed.

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    just bought a 20sf, it is now my new carry gun.

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    Flintlock wrote:
    JBinMontana wrote:
    Glock 20 ROCKS
    It does indeed.
    Until it explodes in your hand

    Didn't a LE department up North have that happen Twice with the 10mm's ?





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    JBinMontana wrote:
    Glock 20 ROCKS
    Could not agree more.

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    "Until it blows up in your hand. . ."

    Oh, not this crap again. I have fired more full-power (Doubletap/Buffalo Bore/etc.)10mm loads out of my G20 than I can count, and have never seen any signs of excess pressure, nor has my gun "blown up in my hand." Until it does, I'll pass on the heresay and continue to rely on the most reliable brand of handguns I know of FROM MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. If I can't trust my experience, what can I trust?

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    Dustin wrote:
    Flintlock wrote:
    JBinMontana wrote:
    Glock 20 ROCKS
    It does indeed.
    Until it explodes in your hand

    Didn't a LE department up North have that happen Twice with the 10mm's ?



    I am not familiar with any Glock 10's bursting in anyone's hands. I would be interested in reading about it if it did indeed happen.

    My experiences with the pistol has been nothing but absolute reliability -also with Double Tap, Buffalo Bore, and Remingtonloads.
    Peace through superior firepower

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    Every GLOCK kB! I have ever seen is a .40 S&W. Here is a GLOCK 35 like mine. :shock: http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/g35-40kb.html


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    I carry a G20 with double tap... no kabooms so far.. i trust my life with it. I carry FN FiveSeven sometimes too.

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    With over 4 million Glocks on duty around the world, and countless others in private hands, there are bound to be problems with some. Your beating a dead horse with the KB issue, I personally have never experienced a KB with the many many Glocks that I have owned and shot.

    I have also seen pictures of Rugers, S&W's, Colts, Sigs and other countless cloned 1911's that have KB'd due to reloaded ammo and or bad factory ammo. I have personally held more blown up revolvers due to factory ammo problems and or over loaded reloads because they wanted to push the limits on feet per second.



    Glock 20 ROCKS


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    Flintlock wrote:
    I am not familiar with any Glock 10's bursting in anyone's hands. I would be interested in reading about it if it did indeed happen.

    My experiences with the pistol has been nothing but absolute reliability -also with Double Tap, Buffalo Bore, and Remingtonloads.
    It's just a joke guys. However it was the Glock 37

    Haven Police Ditch Glocks After Two Explode http://www.theledger.com/article/200...NEWS/803130481



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    Dustin wrote:
    Flintlock wrote:
    I am not familiar with any Glock 10's bursting in anyone's hands. I would be interested in reading about it if it did indeed happen.

    My experiences with the pistol has been nothing but absolute reliability -also with Double Tap, Buffalo Bore, and Remingtonloads.
    It's just a joke guys. However it was the Glock 37

    Haven Police Ditch Glocks After Two Explode http://www.theledger.com/article/200...NEWS/803130481

    LOL :celebrate


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    Dustin wrote:
    Flintlock wrote:
    I am not familiar with any Glock 10's bursting in anyone's hands. I would be interested in reading about it if it did indeed happen.

    My experiences with the pistol has been nothing but absolute reliability -also with Double Tap, Buffalo Bore, and Remingtonloads.
    It's just a joke guys. However it was the Glock 37

    Haven Police Ditch Glocks After Two Explode http://www.theledger.com/article/200...NEWS/803130481

    Well, I predict that the .45 GAP cartridgewill die off sooner or lateranyway.
    Peace through superior firepower

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    I have a Glock 19, 17x2 and 21 and in the market for a 20

    My 21 had a KB, It was due to Bad factory ammunition and the unsupported chamber. It blew down into the magazine and destroyed the frame. All damaged parts were replace by Glock and I still carry it on a daily basis, although I do want an aftermarket barrel to eliminate the unsupported nature of it, witch i believe is the main issues to all the KBs out there in the .40 and .45 glocks.

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...c/100_0375.jpg

    It looks pretty raunchy, its also due to the long story of the pistol after it KBed on me. Short of it, the 21 was stolen, recovered 1 year later, it had been epoxied and ductaped together and somehow the slide stop spring was put in backwards turning it into a single shot, after another 1.5 years of it in the hands of the PD as evidence it was returned to me, with the magazine epoxied/taped into the gun. Returned to Glcok and all parts but the barrel and slide replaced.

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    esstac wrote:
    My 21 had a KB, It was due to Bad factory ammunition and the unsupported chamber. It blew down into the magazine and destroyed the frame. All damaged parts were replace by Glock and I still carry it on a daily basis. . .
    Out of curiosity, were you injured significantly (beyond a powder burn, etc) when the G21 popped it's top?

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    A fat lip, and some small piece of plastic in my hand. Most of the pressure was directed downward into the magazine and the top 2 rounds were pretty gauged. It did fire off the round and eject the shell, with a huge buldge/opening in the web of the case where there is no support on the chamber/feedramp.

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    esstac wrote:
    A fat lip, and some small piece of plastic in my hand. Most of the pressure was directed downward into the magazine and the top 2 rounds were pretty gauged. It did fire off the round and eject the shell, with a huge buldge/opening in the web of the case where there is no support on the chamber/feedramp.
    Sounds as if the GLOCK design did what it was supposed to do when catastrophically failing under the pressure of some foul ammo, and that is, to blow down and into the magazine, absorbing the majority of the explosion and saving your hand. Sounds as if it was a double-charged load and/or the barrel was partially obstructed.

    The unsupported chamber almost acts as a safety feature in that it directs the pressure downward and into the magazine, whereas if a fully-supported chambered barrel was to have such a failure, it would blow up directly backwards (towards the breech which is towards the shooter).

    As a general side-note: If an unsupported chamber "CAUSED" guns to KB, they would do it the very first time the gun was fired (which is at the factory, prior to shipment), not randomly, thousands of rounds into its service life.

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    G20-IWB24/7 wrote:
    esstac wrote:
    A fat lip, and some small piece of plastic in my hand. Most of the pressure was directed downward into the magazine and the top 2 rounds were pretty gauged. It did fire off the round and eject the shell, with a huge buldge/opening in the web of the case where there is no support on the chamber/feedramp.
    Sounds as if the GLOCK design did what it was supposed to do when catastrophically failing under the pressure of some foul ammo, and that is, to blow down and into the magazine, absorbing the majority of the explosion and saving your hand. Sounds as if it was a double-charged load and/or the barrel was partially obstructed.



    Sounds like you work for Glock more than anything

    I guess it was good that the other rounds didn't fire off too. Then what would have happen ?



    G20-IWB24/7 wrote:
    As a general side-note: If an unsupported chamber "CAUSED" guns to KB, they would do it the very first time the gun was fired (which is at the factory, prior to shipment), not randomly, thousands of rounds into its service life.
    And ?

    Which is more likely to KB ? and Which one do we have the most examples of KB.ing ?

    The answer is unsupported chambers. :?




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    Jeez, I was hoping that just this one time a thread complimenting Glock wouldn't turn into a plastic gun debate or an outlet for people who don't like Glocks but I guess that really was too much to hope for. Lesson learned....

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    But...but, but HE started it!

    OK. All stories about how horrible GLOCKs are and how many people don't like them for whatever reasons aside, I have personallyNEVER had a failure of any kind with my various GLOCKs that I've owned (1st Gen G17, 2nd Gen G23, all other 3rd Gen--- G19, G20, G20C, G22RTF, G23x2, G23C, G27, G30x2) and for me, that's good enough for me to continue to trust my life and the lives of my family members to them. When I sleep, my G22RTF is my go-to gun when things go bump in the night.

    After a dozen GLOCKs and no issues, I'm happy and satisfied.

    -G20



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    And FYI, don't take what I posted as anti glock or my glock is better then your insert name

    I love my glocks, even with a handgrenade of a 21 going off in my hand, I still carry that gun and would not trade it for anything.

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    Dustin wrote:
    And ?

    Which is more likely to KB ? and Which one do we have the most examples of KB.ing ?

    The answer is unsupported chambers. :?
    I thought I'd chime in here to agree with this part of Dustin's post. I'm not anti-Glock, although I don't own any currently. The problem is indeed an unsupported chamber. Any gun with an unsupported chamber, not just Glocks.

    For those of you that talk about shooting high power loads out of your guns with unsupported chambers, have a look at your brass and see if there is a bulge. Bet there is! I reload a lot of different calibers and spend a lot more time looking at brass than the averange range rat so it's something I pay close attention to. The other thing you'll notice, if you do reload, is the primer hole in the case will be loose, or primers may fall out with the really hot stuff.


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