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    Moran Scores an Usual Endorsement

    The folks at OpenCarry.org, a gun rights group, have done something we never would have expected: They endorsed Brian Moran in the Democratic primary for governor.

    Moran, a former delegate from Alexandria who has a lengthy record of gun control votes, had no idea he was getting the endorsement -- or even why. As you might imagine, an endorsement from a gun rights group is not exactly what a candidate is looking for in a Democratic primary -- especially one who is trying to appeal to the most liberal voters.

    So why did OpenCarry.org pick Moran, especially over state Sen. Creigh Deeds, who is well known for his gun rights votes and his NRA endorsement in 2005?

    The group's Mike Stollenwerk says they don't trust Deeds anymore because he has changed his views on gun issues over the last couple years.

    He said voters "need to send a message to Virginia politicians like Deeds...that caving in on gun rights principles to run for state office will not be tolerated."

    After previously voting against closing the so-called gunshow loophole, Deeds supported the proposal, though with amendments that weakened the bill.

    "Creigh's proud of his record of building consensus on the gunshow loophole,'' said Brooke Borkenhagen, Deeds spokeswoman."Creigh partnered with Governor Kaine and Henry Marsh to write the compromise that got the gunshow loophole out of committee for the first time. When he's governor, Creigh will close the gunshow loophole."

    Moran has criticized Deeds several times in recent days for his votes on gun control.

    "Brian Moran has always supported common sense gun measures,'' said Jesse Ferguson, Moran's spokesman. "It is only Senator Deeds who has supported expanding guns into bars, guns for stalkers, guns in schools, and plans to allow the purchase of more than one gun a month."

    So what about the third Democrat, Terry McAuliffe?

    The group calls McAuliffe "a man who is backed heavily by out of state money and interests and probably does not even know where the General Assembly Building is in Richmond."

    OpenCarry.org is well aware most of its 17,000 members are Republicans. But they are still encoraging non-Democrats to vote in Tuesday's open primary.

    "That's right, with a three-way race split down the middle, it will only take few thousand non-Democrats to decide which of the Democratic party candidates will face Bob McDonnell in the fall election for governor,'' the group's email says.

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    You know in 2000 I voted for Nader, whom I've met and spoken with personally. If I were President I would want him as an adviser, but I would not want him as President. So why did I vote for him? Because I knew Bush was going to win VA and I wanted to encourage him to run again in 2004 :^).

    I'll be casting my ballot for Moran on the 9th.

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    Operation Target Terry

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    He wore his gun outside his pants for all the honest world to see. Pancho & Lefty

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    Strategic voting - taking democracy to the next level!

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    You guys might want ot go comment on the latest comment at the website. someone is saying that the OCDO only has two people.

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    Thanks Leatherneck,

    just posted a reply.
    He wore his gun outside his pants for all the honest world to see. Pancho & Lefty

    The millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us....There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! ...The war is inevitable–and let it come! I repeat it, Sir, let it come …………. PATRICK HENRY speech 1776

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    Mike wrote:
    Strategic voting - taking democracy to the next level!
    Mike ,

    being a full spectrum voter is the way this Centrist votes . How does Moran measure up with other issues ?

    I hate when cut throat is used to allow a weaker candidate to win a primary only to lose an election to the greater evil . IMO

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    R a Z o R wrote:
    Mike wrote:
    Strategic voting - taking democracy to the next level!
    Mike ,

    being a full spectrum voter is the way this Centrist votes . How does Moran measure up with other issues ?

    I hate when cut throat is used to allow a weaker candidate to win a primary only to lose an election to the greater evil . IMO
    Razor,

    How can you vote, you are from another state...er, this is a democrat primary so never mind.
    He wore his gun outside his pants for all the honest world to see. Pancho & Lefty

    The millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us....There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! ...The war is inevitable–and let it come! I repeat it, Sir, let it come …………. PATRICK HENRY speech 1776

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    An Endorsement That Makes You Say, 'Huh"?

    OpenCarry.org, a gun-rights group, has endorsed Brian Moran in the Virginia gubernatorial primary.

    The Virginia Shooting Sports Association notes that Moran's position on guns has evolved — he was "a "D" candidate for the House of Delegates in 2003 to a "B-" in 2005 and an "A" in 2007."

    Tonight at 9 p.m. Eastern, I'll be asking Cam Edwards of NRANews whether we've entered Bizarro World.



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    Thursday, June 4, 2009
    Operation Chaos: Gun group endorses Moran


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    The Democratic primary for governor of Virginia gets a little more interesting today, as gun-rights group, Open Carry, endorses Brian Moran. (Of course, the endorsement only applies to the primary).


    Here’s why all Virginians, regardless of party, should vote for Brian Moran: First, he paid his dues, living, working, and serving in Virginia.

    Second, and frankly, Moran has some pretty good pro-gun votes on his record, including voting FOR HB535 in 2005 to legalize carrying concealed handguns in school parking lots, as well as FOR HB 530 in 2004 to preempt all local gun control laws, even those in his home city of Alexandria.

    And third, Moran is NOT former Democratic National Party Chairman Terry McAuliffe, a man who is backed heavily by out of state money and interests and probably does not even know where the General Assembly Building is in Richmond!

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    I wasn't aware we only had 2 members. Sooooo do I count?

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    Operation Chaos FTW!

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    Thundar wrote:
    R a Z o R wrote:
    Mike wrote:
    Strategic voting - taking democracy to the next level!
    Mike ,

    being a full spectrum voter is the way this Centrist votes . How does Moran measure up with other issues ?

    I hate when cut throat is used to allow a weaker candidate to win a primary only to lose an election to the greater evil . IMO
    Razor,

    How can you vote, you are from another state...er, this is a democrat primary so never mind.


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    Don't forget to wear an orange "Guns Save Lives" button when you go to vote.
    Where do I get the button? Is there a .pdf or a link I can print??

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    Can you just imagine the look on Moran's face when he got the news about his endorsement?? :shock:

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    Thursday, June 4, 2009
    More Strategic Voting from the Gun Rights Folks

    Anita Kumar notes that Brian Moran is getting the endorsement of Open Carry, a gun rights group whose Mike Stollenwerk has previously argued for just such a thing to occur in his Examiner post last week.

    Ah well.

    It will be interesting to see how much of a difference this might make in the outcome of the race. Turnout will be low, so every vote will count.

    And as for the group's choice of Moran...Survey USA has McDonnell beating him handily.


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    In other news:

    - Brian Moran secured backing from OpenCarry.org, a gun rights group.

    An e-mail announcing the endorsement cited Moran's past votes in the state legislatureto protect gun rights as its rationale.

    But group co-founder Mike Stollenwerk acknowledged that the nod is strategic: Its goal is to discourage support for Terry McAuliffe and remind state Sen. Creigh Deeds, D-Bath,that he isn't the default Democratic choice for gun owning voters.

    Deeds, McAuliffe and Moran are running for the Democratic nomination for governor.

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    Is there a recent poll on this race? I am going to vote Tuesday and I honestly don't care who wins and runs against Bob McDonnell, as long as his name is not McAuliffe.

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    Anyone who doubts that this strategy can work need only look into how we in Louisiana elected a Vietnamese Republican from a heavily African Democrat district. Google Anh Cao and William Jefferson and see for yourself.

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    Chuckles wrote:
    Is there a recent poll on this race? I am going to vote Tuesday and I honestly don't care who wins and runs against Bob McDonnell, as long as his name is not McAuliffe.
    And the best way to do this is to pile on one canddiate not split votes: Moran!

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    Moran blasted at Deeds just as a gun-rights group, OpenCarry.org, urged members to vote for Moran, claiming Deeds can't be trusted on gun issues.

    OpenCarry.org criticized Deeds for urging compromise on closing a loophole that allows some gun purchases at firearms shows without buyer background checks.

    Deeds had previously opposed tighter rules for gun-show purchases.

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    http://www.tricities.com/tri/news/op...arry.org/25025- bristol Herald Courrieris pissed at us!!

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    http://www.charlottesvillenewsplex.t....html#comments- news video on role of gun rights playing out in Democrat primary

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    Mike wrote:
    http://www.tricities.com/tri/news/op...arry.org/25025- bristol Herald Courrieris pissed at us!!
    "anarchy politics"

    Makes me laugh out loud. These liberal media folks sure have a short memory when it comes to cross-voting... and the fact that it is exactly that which was the cause of the Republicans having McCain forced on them.

    At least we're being genuine in advocating the best candidate for this one issue.

    TFred

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    TFred wrote:
    At least we're being genuine in advocating the best candidate for this one issue.
    I agree - why vote for Deeds and reward him for shifting toward a frankly very anti-gun position - banning private sales. Only a few states ban private sales entirely or pick on gun shows, see map at http://www.opencarry.org/privatetransfers.html.


    Deeds is way off course and headed further into a ravine.

    I actually think Moran, **if elected in both primary and November elections,** will be more like Warner and less like Kaine - the word is that essentially all the NOVA Democrats wish this restaurant ban on concealed carry issue would just go away - we are only a couple votes away from veto override and my bet is moran would rather run for national office succesfully and would let a repeal bill become law, perhaps without his signature, even if it is to avoid the risk of an embarassing veto overide like just happenned in Tennessee.


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