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Wonder if we'd be so lucky...
- Thread starter FatboyCykes
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zigziggityzoo
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You know **** well we wouldn't get off so easy. :cuss::cuss:
You know **** well we wouldn't get off so easy. :cuss::cuss:
Nutczak
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Wait a minute here,
She carried a glock in a purse without having anything guarding the trigger from being depressed!! She should have taken that hit in the leg to remind her everyday for the rest of her life how stupid of a move that was.
This is almost as good as the cop that shot himslef in the leg while playing show & tell with school-aged children.
Wait a minute here,
She carried a glock in a purse without having anything guarding the trigger from being depressed!! She should have taken that hit in the leg to remind her everyday for the rest of her life how stupid of a move that was.
This is almost as good as the cop that shot himslef in the leg while playing show & tell with school-aged children.
HankT
State Researcher
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Nutczak wrote:
Carrying a GLOCK with one in the pipe flopping around in a purse would be insanity... :what:
Nutczak wrote:
Couldn't it have been in a holster?
Carrying a GLOCK with one in the pipe flopping around in a purse would be insanity... :what:
stephgrinage23
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HankT wrote:
This woman should THANK HER LUCKY STARS that her child, herself, and everyone else around escaped getting hit with that bullet! This could have been a very tragic event.
She would not have gotten off this way had she not been a LEO.
HankT wrote:
I was thinking the same thing!
This woman should THANK HER LUCKY STARS that her child, herself, and everyone else around escaped getting hit with that bullet! This could have been a very tragic event.
She would not have gotten off this way had she not been a LEO.
malignity
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That's ironic. I was considering carrying my Glock .40 with one in the chamber, but were looking for safe ways to do so, and posted on the OC forums to see what my options are. Right now, I carry unchambered, for this very reason.
( http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum62/26714.html ) for those who were wondering.
That's ironic. I was considering carrying my Glock .40 with one in the chamber, but were looking for safe ways to do so, and posted on the OC forums to see what my options are. Right now, I carry unchambered, for this very reason.
( http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum62/26714.html ) for those who were wondering.
T Vance
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I have a Glock 23 and use a Blackhawk Serpa retention holster. Over the past few weeks I have finally started to carry with one in the chamber. I was not comfortable doing that at first because of the lack of safety that the Glock's are known for, but I am slowly getting over it.
I have a Glock 23 and use a Blackhawk Serpa retention holster. Over the past few weeks I have finally started to carry with one in the chamber. I was not comfortable doing that at first because of the lack of safety that the Glock's are known for, but I am slowly getting over it.
Generaldet
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T Vance wrote:
T Vance wrote:
I have the same setup T vance.
ghostrider
Regular Member
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malignity wrote:
If the four rules fail you, then it's probably a malfunctioning gun, and that isn't restricted to Glocks.
That said. You have to be comfortable and confident with your carry choice. If that means going unchambered, then it's your choice to make, and don't let anyone get you down for making it.
malignity wrote:
I've carried chambered since I've been carrying. Of course I'd already put a few thousand rounds down range with the weapon before I started carrying, and I'd been carrying around the house for some time. Glocks are safe weapons for someone who has a good foundation in firearms safety. Lots of people like to blame the lack of an external safety for ND's, rather than their failure to adhere to the four rules (mainly poor trigger finger discipline). I was in a gun store when a custome was asking about the Glocks lack of a external safety. I told him, "Just so you'll know, the gun is supposed to go off when you pull the trigger." He thought that was pretty funny, but also realized the meaning of the statement. If the gun is properly holstered, it won't matter if it's chambered or not. I find the main reason that people don't carry chambered is lack of self conficence that it usually overcome as the user gets more familiar with their weapon. OTOH, some people do have other reasons for not chambering a round (like small children crawling all over them).
If the four rules fail you, then it's probably a malfunctioning gun, and that isn't restricted to Glocks.
That said. You have to be comfortable and confident with your carry choice. If that means going unchambered, then it's your choice to make, and don't let anyone get you down for making it.
Veritas
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malignity wrote:
Whenever I'm storing my weapon in a bag, briefcase, backpack, etc, I leave one in the pipe and completely remove the magazine. This is common at the gym because they don't allow visible firearms on the premises so I have to be very aware of my surroundings and the sounds my weapon makes when I'm arming or disarming. The distinctive sound of pulling the slide back to chamber, or unchamber, a round would probably perk some ears; whereas simply sliding the magazine in or out of the well doesn't make much noise at all. The added benefit is that I don't have to unholster the weapon in order to make it inoperable.
malignity wrote:
This is the one of the primary reasons I went with a Smith & Wesson M&P with the magazine disconnect. I'm nearly always chambered... when I want to add that extra element of safety, I just slide the mag out about a half inch (or remove it completely). Obviously this is not advisable if you are carrying, as the mag can jiggle loose and fall. It's something I do when I'm not wearing my weapon... and even then, it's nearly always in the holster.
Whenever I'm storing my weapon in a bag, briefcase, backpack, etc, I leave one in the pipe and completely remove the magazine. This is common at the gym because they don't allow visible firearms on the premises so I have to be very aware of my surroundings and the sounds my weapon makes when I'm arming or disarming. The distinctive sound of pulling the slide back to chamber, or unchamber, a round would probably perk some ears; whereas simply sliding the magazine in or out of the well doesn't make much noise at all. The added benefit is that I don't have to unholster the weapon in order to make it inoperable.
autosurgeon
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Most important rule..... keep the booger hook of da bangswitch!!! Also see addendum.. Keep the following off the bangsitch as well pens, pencils, keys, small children, snakes, lizards, lipsticks, chapsticks, rolls of pennies or dimes and toes!! Also always carry in a holster or container that shields the trigger!!
Most important rule..... keep the booger hook of da bangswitch!!! Also see addendum.. Keep the following off the bangsitch as well pens, pencils, keys, small children, snakes, lizards, lipsticks, chapsticks, rolls of pennies or dimes and toes!! Also always carry in a holster or container that shields the trigger!!
Bronson
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T Vance wrote:
:lol:
Bronson
T Vance wrote:
Aha! That's why you got stopped. Get a grown-up gun and the police will leave you alone
:lol:Bronson
FatboyCykes
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autosurgeon wrote:
autosurgeon wrote:
malignity
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FatboyCykes wrote:
Epic post.
FatboyCykes wrote:
autosurgeon wrote:
Epic post.
SQLtables
Regular Member
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Well, first of all, you should be VERY familiar with your firearm and the safety rules that apply to ALL firearms before you carry. As for carrying unchambered, I wouldn't every do it. Hopefully those of you that do, practice (unloaded, with snapcaps, etc..) drawing and chambering a round. That can cost very important seconds.
I used to be a bit nervous about the lack of an "external" safety, but quickly realized the gun won't go off without the trigger being pulled. I carry an XD, so it has a grip safety, but it's the same idea, there's no lever to flip, and if there were I wouldn't rely on it anyway. Safety's fail.
As for this lady, I don't care how she chooses to carry her firearm, but she should pay more attention to where she sets it down, and what her grandkids are doing around her purse with a loaded Glock in it.
Well, first of all, you should be VERY familiar with your firearm and the safety rules that apply to ALL firearms before you carry. As for carrying unchambered, I wouldn't every do it. Hopefully those of you that do, practice (unloaded, with snapcaps, etc..) drawing and chambering a round. That can cost very important seconds.
I used to be a bit nervous about the lack of an "external" safety, but quickly realized the gun won't go off without the trigger being pulled. I carry an XD, so it has a grip safety, but it's the same idea, there's no lever to flip, and if there were I wouldn't rely on it anyway. Safety's fail.
As for this lady, I don't care how she chooses to carry her firearm, but she should pay more attention to where she sets it down, and what her grandkids are doing around her purse with a loaded Glock in it.
Nutczak
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I guess I should clarify my statement so I do not offend Glock Owners.
I am not ripping on Glocks at all, I was just ripping on the woman that had one floating aroundunholstered in her purse with nothing guarding the trigger from being depressed.
I have nothing against Glock pistols. Their design and safety system works as it should. But this leads them toneeding a properly designedholster to guard against the trigger being depressed inadvertently.
I own an XD-m, It has the same style trigger safety, and a beavertail safety too.and still no thumb-safety, it is nearly as point-shoot as a Glock and it could easily be negligently fired if not kept in a holster to guard prying little handsor a tube of chapstick causing an N-D in a purse.
I guess I should clarify my statement so I do not offend Glock Owners.
I am not ripping on Glocks at all, I was just ripping on the woman that had one floating aroundunholstered in her purse with nothing guarding the trigger from being depressed.
I have nothing against Glock pistols. Their design and safety system works as it should. But this leads them toneeding a properly designedholster to guard against the trigger being depressed inadvertently.
I own an XD-m, It has the same style trigger safety, and a beavertail safety too.and still no thumb-safety, it is nearly as point-shoot as a Glock and it could easily be negligently fired if not kept in a holster to guard prying little handsor a tube of chapstick causing an N-D in a purse.
SQLtables
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Nutczak wrote:
You're right. As far as I know, we don't know if it was in a holster or not. The child may have pulled it out of a holster, or squeezed his hand into a nylon holster, or who knows what else. I see this as more of a case of neglect for the child than the gun. She should have known where both were and what both were doing.
Nutczak wrote:
You're right. As far as I know, we don't know if it was in a holster or not. The child may have pulled it out of a holster, or squeezed his hand into a nylon holster, or who knows what else. I see this as more of a case of neglect for the child than the gun. She should have known where both were and what both were doing.
autosurgeon
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If you like carrying floating around in something other than a holster they do make a trigger block that can be pushed out with the finger when you are ready to fire!
If you like carrying floating around in something other than a holster they do make a trigger block that can be pushed out with the finger when you are ready to fire!
CoonDog
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This is in reply to FatboyCykes' clipart. While one officer is securing a suspect, a second officer is providing cover with her weapon. Unfortunately for the suspect, she's got her finger on the trigger. Luckily, she missed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoNLgZul2CE
This is in reply to FatboyCykes' clipart. While one officer is securing a suspect, a second officer is providing cover with her weapon. Unfortunately for the suspect, she's got her finger on the trigger. Luckily, she missed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoNLgZul2CE
CoonDog
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Another example of an officer mishandling her weapon and a good reminder to secure your firearm. This was in the Public Safety section of the Farmington Observer yesterday, June 4, 2009. I couldn't find it online, so I'm typing it out:
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A Michigan State Police ID badge and a handgun were stolen from an unlocked vehicle while parked on the 29000 block of Minglewood Lane during the night of May 31. The rear windows were reportedly left down and the vehicle was not locked when someone ransacked the car and took a purse from the driver's seat floor.
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Note the MSP officer left her gun in an unlocked car with the windows down. WTF? :question::question::question::question::question::question:
Another example of an officer mishandling her weapon and a good reminder to secure your firearm. This was in the Public Safety section of the Farmington Observer yesterday, June 4, 2009. I couldn't find it online, so I'm typing it out:
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A Michigan State Police ID badge and a handgun were stolen from an unlocked vehicle while parked on the 29000 block of Minglewood Lane during the night of May 31. The rear windows were reportedly left down and the vehicle was not locked when someone ransacked the car and took a purse from the driver's seat floor.
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Note the MSP officer left her gun in an unlocked car with the windows down. WTF? :question::question::question::question::question::question: