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I'd spent a couple hours enjoying coffee, cigarettes & conversation with a good friend in Tom's Donuts in Angola, Indiana. I'd been open carrying all over Angola for more than a year and Tom's Donuts was one of my favorite places to sit & visit.
As usual, I was openly wearing my Smith & Wesson Model of 1917 in an Uncle Mike's verticle shoulder holster. At about 16:00, my friend & I decided to leave & we walked out the door. We'd been sitting in a booth and I'd noticed an older man sitting at the counter who had been staring at me with a sour expression.
Friend and I exited the building and were standing by my automobile when an Angola Police Dept. vehicle pulled into the parking lot. I told my friend not to leave as I had a suspicion the policeman was there on account of me. Friend told me he had no intention of leaving.
Policeman 1 walked past us and looked at me and said,"How ya doing?" I replied,"Howdy," and Policeman 1 went inside. Friend and I waited. In a couple minutes, Policeman 1 came outside and said,"Sir, do you have a permit for that?" I replied,"Yes I do. Would you like to see it?"
Policeman 1: Yes, if I may.
I got my wallet and removed my LTCH and handed it to him. While he was looking at it, Policeman No. 2 arrived in another prowl car and approached us with a smile on his face.
Policeman 2: That permit is for concealed carry.
Me: Oh no, Sir. An Indiana LTCH is just that, a license to carry handgun. There is no stipulation or requirement for concealed carry and I carry it however I want.
Policeman 1: Sir, do you have a middle name? (My first name is just an initial and I have no middle name.)
Me: No, Sir. Would you like to see my drivers license to go along with that?
Policeman 1: Yes, please.
I retrieved my wallet again and got out my drivers license and handed it to him.
Policeman 1 to Policeman 2: He's right. There's no requirement for concealed carry.
Policeman 1: Sir, I have to get you for trespass.
Me: Oh no, Sir. They have no signage on the door. I've been open carrying in there for more than a year. I pay for my coffee and donuts and tip nicely. Nobody in there has ever said anything to me about open carrying. If they'd have just told me they didn't want me to open carry in there, I would have honored their request.
Friend: That's right. We've been going in there like this for more than a year and have never had any problems or complaints.
Policeman 1: Sorry to have bothered you (as he handed back my LTCH and drivers license).
Me: I take no offense and bear no animosity. You were just doing your job (as I offered my hand).
Policeman 1 shook my hand with a smile on his face and thanked me for my service to our country. (I was wearing my 'U.S. Army Veteran' baseball cap.)
Policeman 2: Have a nice day and thanks for your service.
Me: I've spent a lot of money in there and I can assure you, Sir,I won't go in there again. I will spend my money elsewhere.
Policeman 1: I don't blame you. Have a good day.
Both Policemen left. Friend and I left. There were no citations, arrests or tickets issued. Both Policemen were friendly, cordial, polite. I sincerely believe neither of them realized prior to about 16:10, 23May09 that an Indiana LTCH does not require concealed carry.
Friend always conceals but now he's going to start open carry.
I'd spent a couple hours enjoying coffee, cigarettes & conversation with a good friend in Tom's Donuts in Angola, Indiana. I'd been open carrying all over Angola for more than a year and Tom's Donuts was one of my favorite places to sit & visit.
As usual, I was openly wearing my Smith & Wesson Model of 1917 in an Uncle Mike's verticle shoulder holster. At about 16:00, my friend & I decided to leave & we walked out the door. We'd been sitting in a booth and I'd noticed an older man sitting at the counter who had been staring at me with a sour expression.
Friend and I exited the building and were standing by my automobile when an Angola Police Dept. vehicle pulled into the parking lot. I told my friend not to leave as I had a suspicion the policeman was there on account of me. Friend told me he had no intention of leaving.
Policeman 1 walked past us and looked at me and said,"How ya doing?" I replied,"Howdy," and Policeman 1 went inside. Friend and I waited. In a couple minutes, Policeman 1 came outside and said,"Sir, do you have a permit for that?" I replied,"Yes I do. Would you like to see it?"
Policeman 1: Yes, if I may.
I got my wallet and removed my LTCH and handed it to him. While he was looking at it, Policeman No. 2 arrived in another prowl car and approached us with a smile on his face.
Policeman 2: That permit is for concealed carry.
Me: Oh no, Sir. An Indiana LTCH is just that, a license to carry handgun. There is no stipulation or requirement for concealed carry and I carry it however I want.
Policeman 1: Sir, do you have a middle name? (My first name is just an initial and I have no middle name.)
Me: No, Sir. Would you like to see my drivers license to go along with that?
Policeman 1: Yes, please.
I retrieved my wallet again and got out my drivers license and handed it to him.
Policeman 1 to Policeman 2: He's right. There's no requirement for concealed carry.
Policeman 1: Sir, I have to get you for trespass.
Me: Oh no, Sir. They have no signage on the door. I've been open carrying in there for more than a year. I pay for my coffee and donuts and tip nicely. Nobody in there has ever said anything to me about open carrying. If they'd have just told me they didn't want me to open carry in there, I would have honored their request.
Friend: That's right. We've been going in there like this for more than a year and have never had any problems or complaints.
Policeman 1: Sorry to have bothered you (as he handed back my LTCH and drivers license).
Me: I take no offense and bear no animosity. You were just doing your job (as I offered my hand).
Policeman 1 shook my hand with a smile on his face and thanked me for my service to our country. (I was wearing my 'U.S. Army Veteran' baseball cap.)
Policeman 2: Have a nice day and thanks for your service.
Me: I've spent a lot of money in there and I can assure you, Sir,I won't go in there again. I will spend my money elsewhere.
Policeman 1: I don't blame you. Have a good day.
Both Policemen left. Friend and I left. There were no citations, arrests or tickets issued. Both Policemen were friendly, cordial, polite. I sincerely believe neither of them realized prior to about 16:10, 23May09 that an Indiana LTCH does not require concealed carry.
Friend always conceals but now he's going to start open carry.