View Poll Results: Tuesday's Vote - Who are you voting for?

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  • Brian Moran

    21 52.50%
  • Creigh Deeds

    14 35.00%
  • Terry McAuliffe

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  • I am not sure yet

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  • I am not gonna vote

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Thread: Ok.. so who are ya gonna vote for Tuesday 6/9/09?

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    ODCO endoreses Moran... Deeds flip flops on Guns, Terry is a Kaine clone... are you gonna vote?
    Carry On.

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    As much as it pains me to do so, I think we ought to all stick together and vote for Moran for the reason given by OCDO. It's a strategy, not a concession, and we need to try our best to keep McAuliffe out of the general election and out of the governor's mansion.

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    Chuckles wrote:
    As much as it pains me to do so, I think we ought to all stick together and vote for Moran for the reason given by OCDO. It's a strategy, not a concession, and we need to try our best to keep McAuliffe out of the general election and out of the governor's mansion.
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    I'll be voting for Moran. I'm excited, this will be my first time voting at the polls!

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    [flash=320,256]http://www.youtube.com/v/am21rtOTEj0&hl=en&fs=1[/flash]
    Carry On.

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    [flash=320,256]http://www.youtube.com/v/V1UeLCOQttY&hl=en&fs=1[/flash]
    Carry On.

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    rkbaguy wrote:
    The one who will not veto the restaurant bill.
    Then don't vote for Moran. I can't understand why OCDO endorsed Moran. Moran is a flaming P.O.S. His brother the Congressman is just as bad.

    I'll be voting for Deeds. Moran has no business getting close to the Governor's Office.
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    I vote in a school so I guess it will be with an empty OCd holster and digital recorder.

    Wonder if they'll let me in with a GSL sticker or pin badge

    Come to think of it, I do have a VCDL T-shirt - didn't they decide that political or patriotic T-shirts were good to go now?

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    T Dubya wrote:
    rkbaguy wrote:
    The one who will not veto the restaurant bill.
    Then don't vote for Moran. I can't understand why OCDO endorsed Moran. Moran is a flaming P.O.S. His brother the Congressman is just as bad.

    I'll be voting for Deeds. Moran has no business getting close to the Governor's Office.
    My objective is to vote for the person most likely to lose to McDonnell in November.
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    I am very torn...initially, I had no problem voting for Moran because strategically, that seems the best route to take. After considering the off chance that Moran actually made it to office...I lean more to Deeds...but then I consider that when he ran against McDonnell in 2005, he only lost by 360 votes...it just seems like a catch 22 either way you hang it!

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    Fetts Lady wrote:
    I am very torn...initially, I had no problem voting for Moran because strategically, that seems the best route to take. After considering the off chance that Moran actually made it to office...I lean more to Deeds...but then I consider that when he ran against McDonnell in 2005, he only lost by 360 votes...it just seems like a catch 22 either way you hang it!
    Same problem but.....Moran is the weaker of the two IMHO, and he certainly isn't any worse than Kaine has been and we survived him.

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    T Dubya wrote:
    Then don't vote for Moran. I can't understand why OCDO endorsed Moran.
    They endorsed him to let Deeds feel the wrath of gun rights activists. It also has the benefit of creating a lot of attention on OCDO in Virginia.


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    So again I need someone to explain to me why Bob McDonnell is such a great candidate that we need to let Brian Moran get closer to the governorship, as well as split what pro-gun vote there is in the Democratic party?

    McDonnell's record on guns about equal with Deeds. Put another way - Deeds and McDonnell are far closer on guns than Deeds is to the other 2 bozos.

    From a strategic risk analysis standpoint, this is a poor strategy. The upside is very small, and the consequences of failure are large.

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    T Dubya wrote:
    rkbaguy wrote:
    The one who will not veto the restaurant bill.
    Then don't vote for Moran. I can't understand why OCDO endorsed Moran. Moran is a flaming P.O.S. His brother the Congressman is just as bad.

    I'll be voting for Deeds. Moran has no business getting close to the Governor's Office.
    I agree with you. I think OCDO endorsing Moran as a "strategic vote" is reckless at best and stupid at worst. You CANNOT estimate electabilty of a candidate in general elections judguing by primary polls. Moran isreally anit-gun, Deeds just threw a bone to antis in aform of "gun show loophole", other than that he is pretty pro-gun.

    By voting for Moran over Deedswe areshooting yourself in the foot.

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    Skeptic wrote:
    ...as well as split what pro-gun vote there is in the Democratic party?
    I agree, we shouldn't split the vote. You should vote for Moran.

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    Skeptic wrote:
    So again I need someone to explain to me why Bob McDonnell is such a great candidate that we need to let Brian Moran get closer to the governorship, as well as split what pro-gun vote there is in the Democratic party?

    McDonnell's record on guns about equal with Deeds. Put another way - Deeds and McDonnell are far closer on guns than Deeds is to the other 2 bozos.

    From a strategic risk analysis standpoint, this is a poor strategy. The upside is very small, and the consequences of failure are large.
    +100

    Vote for Deeds. Make it Deeds vs McDonnel in November and either way you are better off that with Kaine. Vote for Moran and you have a good chance to get another Timmah for next 4 years...

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    peter nap wrote:
    Fetts Lady wrote:
    I am very torn...initially, I had no problem voting for Moran because strategically, that seems the best route to take. After considering the off chance that Moran actually made it to office...I lean more to Deeds...but then I consider that when he ran against McDonnell in 2005, he only lost by 360 votes...it just seems like a catch 22 either way you hang it!
    Same problem but.....Moran is the weaker of the two IMHO, and he certainly isn't any worse than Kaine has been and we survived him.
    I guess my point is ultimately, I am much more comfortable with Deeds and feel that the 'vote for the weakest link' has far too much potential to backfire.

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    My view, whether Deeds or Moran wins, it's a win just keeping McAuliffe out. So vote your own conscience. Either way if we have an impact it will be felt and they will know we are watching them and will do what we can to reward and punish.

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    TexasNative wrote:
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    ...as well as split what pro-gun vote there is in the Democratic party?
    I agree, we shouldn't split the vote. You should vote for Moran.

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    Unfortunately the number of gun owners in Virginia versus the number of gun owners even aware that OCDO exists much less their endorsement is negligible.

    If I had never heard of OCDO before the endorsement, I would have assumed that their endorsement was along the lines of the Ray Schoenke's AHSA endorsement of Obama last year.

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    ed wrote:
    [flash=320,256]http://www.youtube.com/v/am21rtOTEj0&hl=en&fs=1[/flash]
    Re: Ed's video above;

    Moran has got one of the worst contrived smiles I've seen. Well maybe Pelosi's beats it :^).

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    Skeptic wrote:
    TexasNative wrote:
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    ...as well as split what pro-gun vote there is in the Democratic party?
    I agree, we shouldn't split the vote. You should vote for Moran.

    ~ Boyd
    Unfortunately the number of gun owners in Virginia versus the number of gun owners even aware that OCDO exists much less their endorsement is negligible.

    If I had never heard of OCDO before the endorsement, I would have assumed that their endorsement was along the lines of the Ray Schoenke's AHSA endorsement of Obama last year.
    That's a very good point Skeptic. There are a lot of "IF's" in this primary. Under ordinary circumstances I'd agree with you wholeheartedly. There are a number of factors this year that may change the word Ordinary.

    First is Obama. He has stirred voters like no a$$hole I've ever seen.

    Kaine has abused gun owners for a long time now.

    Losing Goode in Southern Va has gotten many people who don't vote, ready to go out and cast a ballot (Long story on that one).

    The economy is getting worse despite what CNBC says, and it's hitting rural areas very hard.

    The turnout is generally light for the primary and we certainly are not the only people that will vote in the primary just to try to control who the Republicans have to run against.

    Several sportsman groups near the NC border are pushing the idea with a lot of interest.

    VCDL has said in an alert, that they support OCDO's plan.

    It's evident that more Republicans and no party people will vote in the primary than normal. The question is who they will vote for.



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    peter nap wrote:
    VCDL has said in an alert, that they support OCDO's plan.
    it did?
    Carry On.

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    ed wrote:
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    VCDL has said in an alert, that they support OCDO's plan.
    it did?
    I stand corrected:

    OpenCarry.org (OCDO) has received a lot of press attention for suggesting an interesting Primary strategy which in part urges all registered voters **regardless of party affiliation** to vote in the Democratic primary on Tuesday, June 9th. Fascinatingly, some of the press is "up in arms" about the strategy OCDO is proposing and they are attacking OCDO pretty harshly.

    Sounds like somebody's ox is getting gored ;-)

    http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum66/26709.html
    http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum66/26726.html



    Please note that VCDL is not taking a position on the proposed strategy one way or the other.





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    hunter45 wrote:
    I'll be voting for Moran. I'm excited, this will be my first time voting at the polls!
    First time I voted I did so for Palin.

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    hunter45 wrote:
    I'll be voting for Moran. I'm excited, this will be my first time voting at the polls!
    Congrats! My first 'big election' was the 2004 Pres Election...it was a great feeling walking in and being able to let my voice be heard.

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