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    I was approached by several residents yesterday at the Starbucks while have my coffee and reading the liberal rag known as the times.They asked me if I could organize another meet here again.They advised me there have bee some heavy duty crack dealing going on and some gangs are starting to drift back in.I have as we did in march the full support of the Safeway and all the other local business we had last time.

    I will make sure we have some speakers etc.Dave Workman if your up for it maybe you would consider a talk at this meet and I will do another press release.As most of you know we had KING5 and KIRO cover the last one as well as Dave with a super write up in his column.

    What do you all think???? Here is the KING 5 story and vid for those who haven't seen it.


    http://www.king5.com/video/news-index.html?nvid=346642 Video
    SeaTac apartment residents meet to discuss gun laws


    04:51 PM PDT on Saturday, March 28, 2009


    By CHRIS DANIELS KING 5 News



    SEATAC, Wash. - Some SeaTac apartment residents have a hard time forgetting the shooting which injured two people last month.

    "It was a little unnerving," says James Beal, "I heard six shots."

    Beal was home when a 17-year-old opened fire on a group of people. He's now trying to rally his neighbors together, while making a pitch about how he protects himself.

    "I carry a weapon for personal protection as most people here do, and we feel it our option under the Second Amendment,” he said.

    Beal helped sponsor a gathering Saturday at the Willow Lake Apartments, which he says was designed as a way to bring people together, to organize neighborhood "block watches” and talk about gun laws.

    "I'm not advising it,” Beal said. “I'm just making sure people are aware they have the option.”

    Roughly 40 people were there about mid-day, and a vast majority of them were carrying weapons.

    Kristen Comer, of Operation Ceasefire, approves of Beal's effort to bring together the community to discuss the issues. But she says neighbors should ask themselves how comfortable they'd be with several apartment dwellers carrying guns.

    "For the vast majority of residents in this area, is that what they want?” she said. “Do they want their neighbors walking around with the sidearms on their persons at all times?"

    She believes organizers should be more focused on curbing access to guns on the secondary market.

    King County Sheriff's Department Sergeant John Urquhart says anyone buying a gun should think long and hard about it.

    "It's legal under state and federal law," Urquhart said. "But if you use your gun to scare or intimidate, that's violating another law, so be very careful."


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    I'm in...

    To make a real impact on the apartment complex, we will need to find a way to get more residents involved this time. If there are only a few, it will send the wrong message.
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    If im not working count me in...

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    DEROS72 wrote:
    04:51 PM PDT on Saturday, March 28, 2009

    By CHRIS DANIELS KING 5 News

    SEATAC, Wash. - Some SeaTac apartment residents have a hard time forgetting the shooting which injured two people last month.

    "It was a little unnerving," says James Beal, "I heard six shots."

    Beal was home when a 17-year-old opened fire on a group of people. He's now trying to rally his neighbors together, while making a pitch about how he protects himself.

    "I carry a weapon for personal protection as most people here do, and we feel it our option under the Second Amendment,” he said.

    Beal helped sponsor a gathering Saturday at the Willow Lake Apartments, which he says was designed as a way to bring people together, to organize neighborhood "block watches” and talk about gun laws.

    "I'm not advising it,” Beal said. “I'm just making sure people are aware they have the option.”

    Roughly 40 people were there about mid-day, and a vast majority of them were carrying weapons.

    Kristen Comer, of Operation Ceasefire, approves of Beal's effort to bring together the community to discuss the issues. But she says neighbors should ask themselves how comfortable they'd be with several apartment dwellers carrying guns.

    "For the vast majority of residents in this area, is that what they want?” she said. “Do they want their neighbors walking around with the sidearms on their persons at all times?"

    She believes organizers should be more focused on curbing access to guns on the secondary market.

    King County Sheriff's Department Sergeant John Urquhart says anyone buying a gun should think long and hard about it.

    "It's legal under state and federal law," Urquhart said. "But if you use your gun to scare or intimidate, that's violating another law, so be very careful."
    What he does't say is "If the very presence of your gun on your hip for the world to see, scares and intimidates the crack dealers so much that they move their business out of the neighborhood, you haven't broken any laws whatsoever."



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    DEROS72 wrote:
    What do you all think???? Here is the KING 5 story and vid for those who haven't seen it.
    Excellent effort. Excellent presentation of information by all concerned.



    Even the TV reporting was pretty darn good.



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    Lets get some Idea on dates.What works for everyone.I'm thing mid july early August.

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    Any time after July 4th works for me.... I'm out of town the last half of June.
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    As we talked this morning Jim, I am open pretty much everyweeknd during day time. I would say we should emphasise on getting more of the residents if you want to make this more successfull.

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    I think being summer and a nice day will help.Also putting up flyers on every door.Also I have a few allies now amoungst the residents so I believe we will get a better turnout.Nevertheless we need to be seen as more than just a flash in the pan if we are going to impact these communities in a positive way.Folks around here see me everyday and I still get a well done from time to time on our last meet.I get asked on occasion if we are going to do it again.I believe we can have a diffinitive impact on crime in these communities if we just keep showing up.

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    Depends on the day, but I would love to attend another meet.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

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    of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
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    Sometimes I wish I did not live so far away as your doing a great job. Keep safe!

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    I'm in for it. Going to be busy for a couple weekends here, but more towards the end of the month and/or after the 4th I am free.

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    DEROS72 wrote:
    Lets get some Idea on dates.What works for everyone.I'm thing mid july early August.
    That time frame works for me. I will be there if I'm not pulled away at the last second by work again.

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    hOW ABOUT sAT jULY 18TH

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    I am fine with that.

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    Are you still planning that thing in the park with the band?

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    Yes but not at angle lake something even bigger for labor day weekend if we can.Right in Nickles back yard and we want to make it a state wide event.Still in prilems.

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    count me in. It would be nice to meet some of you and also so you can see that I'm not some crazy guy who spends his time fearing a zombie attack and swimming with his guns =)

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    PolskiG wrote:
    count me in. It would be nice to meet some of you and also so you can see that I'm not some crazy guy who spends his time fearing a zombie attack and swimming with his guns =)
    PolskiG there is Angle Lake close by Willows Apt. incase you want to practise your swimming with your guns etc

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    Manu wrote:
    PolskiG wrote:
    count me in. It would be nice to meet some of you and also so you can see that I'm not some crazy guy who spends his time fearing a zombie attack and swimming with his guns =)
    PolskiG there is Angle Lake close by Willows Apt. incase you want to practise your swimming with your guns etc
    I'd do it, but drying cleaning and relubing my m4 afterwards was a pain in the arse

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    PolskiG,

    I'd do it, but drying cleaning and relubing my m4 afterwards was a pain in the arse
    Hmmm, maybe some retraining on maintanence of your m4 is in order...

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    kparker wrote:
    PolskiG,

    I'd do it, but drying cleaning and relubing my m4 afterwards was a pain in the arse
    Hmmm, maybe some retraining on maintanence of your m4 is in order...
    Oh, don't get me wrong I clean it after every normalouting but wiping water, blow drying every part including the innergas tube,degreasing, compressed airingand re-greasing every part including the inner heat shield and under the carry handleis mucho annoying, thats why I like AKs, some spit, WD40...all done!!

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    No, no, I just meant that, whereas I have a large variety of different types of firearms, and sometimes let the task pile up until there's several to do at once, my arse is never sore after cleaning them. You must be doing something wrong...

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    kparker wrote:
    No, no, I just meant that, whereas I have a large variety of different types of firearms, and sometimes let the task pile up until there's several to do at once, my arse is never sore after cleaning them. You must be doing something wrong...
    Something in the "technique" perhaps? :?

    ARGH! Get the vision out of my head!

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    No seriously, it was a pain in the you know what, sitting there that long in a wooden chair from the truman era really sucks

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