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    Lets hope Flynn does not use this as a ploy to destroy open carry. Pray for our officers
    If you go into a store, with a gun, and rob it, you have forfeited your right to not get shot"
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    iceman71 wrote:
    Lets hope Flynn does not use this as a ploy to destroy open carry. Pray for our officers
    I don't see how. But he probably will try.



    UPDATE: Two Milwaukee Officers Shot
    UPDATED Tuesday, June 9, 2009 --- 5:30 p.m.

    From NBC15's News Partner, WITI-TV in Milwaukee:

    WITI-TV, MILWAUKEE - Two Milwaukee police officers have been shot on S. 2nd St. between National Ave. and Walker St. on the city's south side. The shooting took place around 3:30 p.m. as officers pulled over a car under suspicion. Milwaukee Police Chief Ed Flynn says the suspect inside drew fire on the officers and struck them several times. Neither officer had his weapon drawn when the shots were fired.

    The two officers were transported to Froedtert Hospital in Wauwatosa. Both officers suffered multiple gun shot wounds. One of them is list in critical condition; the other in satisfactory condition.

    A suspect has been arrested in connection with the shooting of the officers. Investigators also recovered a weapon.

    A witness that talked with FOX6 News mentioned he was on the scene shortly after the gun shots were fired. He assisted in controlling the bleeding the officers were experiencing. He tells FOX6, the officers were alert and breathing.

    Chief Flynn thanked the Milwaukee Fire Department for responding to the scene of the shooting so quickly and stabilizing the wounded officers.
    http://www.nbc15.com/news/headlines/47427767.html


    2 Milwaukee officers shot, 1 in critical condition
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    MILWAUKEE (AP) — A bicyclist who was stopped by two police officers Tuesday shot each of them multiple times, leaving one in critical condition, police said.

    The suspect was arrested within an hour and the weapon was recovered, said Milwaukee Police Chief Edward Flynn. "We believe we have the right man," he said at a news conference.

    The uniformed officers "stopped a suspicious individual for questioning" about 3:10 p.m. Flynn said.

    "Without provocation he drew a weapon and shot both officers before they had an opportunity to draw their weapons," he said.

    One officer was in critical condition and the other was in satisfactory condition at a hospital, Flynn said. He did not release the officers' names or details of their injuries.

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...D2UiwD98NFPI00


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    Just as I thought, when everyone should be pulling together and praying and hoping for the recovery of the 2 officers, Barrett has to end his news conference blaming guns for the violence instead of the puke felon who pulled the trigger.

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    Mr.Parker wrote:
    SNIP...Barrett has to end his news conference blaming guns for the violence...
    Wrong target.

    Ban bicycles!! Cut off the right leg of all males to prevent pedaling!!
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    yep that dam gun gremlin jumped out again and stated shooting all by itself. Bicyclist was an innocent bystander hey. I think not
    If you go into a store, with a gun, and rob it, you have forfeited your right to not get shot"
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    iceman71 wrote:
    Lets hope Flynn does not use this as a ploy to destroy open carry. Pray for our officers
    The suspect was not open carrying.

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    Best wishes for the officers.Our milwaukee mayor said it was all these crazy guns on the streets.How does an object become crazy?

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    The suspect was not open carrying.
    The suspect was also already convicted of crimes.

    Why isn't this a lesson for the fear-mongers?

    Here we have a criminal, the kind of person we don't want to have a gun, the kind of person prohibited from having a gun, and they had a gun anyway. The laws didn't work.

    This person was breaking the law conceal carrying, this person was breaking the law being in possession of a gun at all.

    The most obvious and ignored fact escapes these political demagogues. CRIMINALS WILL JUST BREAK YOUR LAWS. Leaving law-abiding citizens who would never misuse their right to defend themselves infringed upon.



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    As a former LEO, I had trained in the police academy and in subsequent training to be prepared for dangerous situations during traffic stops, felony stops, protests, etc. You can never be prepared for every situation you encounter. These two officers are have less than two years experience between them. They were shot by an illegally armed criminal without provocation.

    Again, the knee-jerk liberal response is not to blame the criminal. It is not to blame the criminal justice system for letting this criminal back on the street after being convicted, per Flynn's report, for burglary, and being in possession of a "fake pistol". It is, of course, to blame the "crazy gun" for this crime. Not only did the criminal have a crazy gun, but he had a crazy gun in a school zone. I know it is hard to believe that an armed criminal would violate such a law. I am sure that if there was just proper signage, or he was threatened with a new ordinance with a $10,000 fine, this never would have happened.

    I digress. Our thoughts and prayers are with the officers and their families.

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    Prayer offered for the officers and their families.



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    http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local...eo=YHI&t=a

    Flynn said it all in this video...."BAD things happen to GOOD PEOPLE" and "BAD things happen in GOOD NEIGHBORHOODS"

    The Mayor forgot to say exactly which guns we need to get off of the streets!

    Not Crazy Guns! Illegal guns!

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    Well he just did it:X

    Just now on 620am he said Milwaukee don't need any guns on the street I don't care what any special interest group says.

    Gosh I hate him!

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    Seems to me this incident is going to be the impetus for a new set of laws:

    http://www.wisn.com/video/19715206/index.html

    Neither Barrett nor Flynn specifically mention open carry but they clearly allude to it, despite the fact it has nothing to do with this unfortunate crime.

    As an aside, why does Barrett keep saying we're all okay with "teens" running around with guns? I don't know of one person who is okay with that activity.

    My 2 pesos.

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    Seems to me this incident is going to be the impetus for a new set of laws:

    http://www.wisn.com/video/19715206/index.html

    Neither Barrett nor Flynn specifically mention open carry but they clearly allude to it, despite the fact it has nothing to do with this unfortunate crime.
    Shameless. For Ed Flynn to lump law-abiding gun owners in with a criminal who was already breaking the law carrying a concealled weapon. Shameless.

    Mayor Barrett, No ammount of podium pounding is gonna change the fact that criminals are already prohibited from having guns, and to try to lump law-abiding open carriers in with these criminals is shameful.



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    Yep but THEY will USE the two officers for their agenda...... sick, how can the sleep at night?

    First thing out of my mouth last night when I heard about this event was "God take care of them boys".

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    Yeah, i'd really like to embrace the job that police do and embrace the role they are suppose to provide, but that needs to be reciprocal. When they don't embrace our freedom and leverage crimes like this to push for restrictions against law abiding citizens, its hard to cheerlead for them.

    I hope the officers heal fast, but do they hope for our rights? I don't think so.

    That is whats wrong with this situation.

    Until the police stop treating and viewing everyone as a "potential criminal" our rights will continue to be eroded.

    And I DO think thats how police view the public. You are either a cop of a "potential criminal". They don't see you or I and think "there's a law abiding citizen" they think "there's a potential criminal"

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    Gun grabbers again dancing in the blood of innocents, a macabre anile bacchanalia.

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    Doug Huffman wrote:
    Gun grabbers again dancing in the blood of innocents, a macabre anile bacchanalia.

    Some..... sure but not all.

    I have some friends on the force in Waukesha and they are not like that. No matter what though when something like this happens they will always get a prayer from me..... If they disagree with my rights I'll talk to them about it when the heal up.




    Edit: sorry Doug I ment to quote hugh.

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    Doug Huffman wrote:
    Gun grabbers again dancing in the blood of innocents, a macabre anile bacchanalia.
    I'm somewhat of an admirer of Dionysus. Bloody Romans must have ruined his reputation.
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    No problem but I did take a start until I read your edit.

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    If they disagree with my rights I'll talk to them about it when the heal up
    As I said in my original post, personally, I hope the officers heal fast and well.

    But I stand by my statement that its difficult to embrace the job of a police officer when they do not respect our rights.

    The nuance is probably not going to come across in textual conversation.

    I feelfor the guys who were shot as human beings and I feel for their families, but I can't jump behind the "cops put their lives on the line for their job" cheerleading as a result of the lack of respect that police have for protecting our rights.



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    It seems that the chief and mayor equate the illegally armed criminals with law abiding citizens exercising their constitutionally protected rights:

    Flynn:
    "We're not standing by in this city while people carry guns and put people at risk"

    "Which people carry guns?" Which people at risk?

    Barrett on how the teenage criminal got the gun:
    "If history is any indicator, the gun was purchased locally and someone thought it was a good idea, for whatever reason, to give an 18 year old a handgun."

    Anybody want to place bets regarding where that gun came from? Will Flynn's stormtroopers track down the gun's owner? I guarantee that gun didn't get in that kid's hands via a "gunshow loophole".

    Barrett:
    "I don't care what some special interest groups say... because someone says it's a great idea to be carrying a gun in the middle of a city."

    Um..... I think he means us, folks. Again, equating law abiding citizens who want to exercise their rights, with thug criminals who are breaking the law simply by possessing a firearm (CC, felon with a gun, etc.).

    Barrett wants the legislature and governor to enhance the penalty for felons who carry guns. Fine, but how about enforcing the laws on the books and not plea bargain these criminals down to minimal crimes.

    Once Doyle gets to let a few thousand criminals out of prison early, how many of them will have guns too?

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    Flynn, cops are people and they carry guns. I guess we should disarm them and see how many want to report to work the next day. What a tool.

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