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    Pace wrote:
    Just my thoughts this morning about what can happen to me because I carry all over the country, quite often OPEN...

    Police across the county tend to shoot anyone first who is carrying a gun, and ask later. In NYC, a NYPD officer was shot and killed because he was was carrying a gun. Because he was a NYPD officer, the fact he was shot is being questioned. Why are police officers allowed to shoot and kill someone just because they have a weapon, or even IF they have a weapon. Where in any law is anyone, a police officer, a citizen, anyone allowed to shoot and kill for possession of a weapon.

    Imagine if armed citizens were shooting police officers left and right for possession of weapons while off duty? Could a citizen get away with the excuse “He has a gun in his belt, he made a sudden movement towards it, I thought he was going to shoot me?” All citizens would automatically go to jail.
    At least 81 times in the past six years, officers in Central Florida have shot or shot at suspects, killing 37 of them. More than 40 percent of shootings by Central Florida police involved suspects who were unarmed, and officers in those cases were almost always cleared by prosecutors and internal investigators. Though equal numbers of black and white suspects were shot, black suspects were twice as likely to be unarmed.[/b]
    One reason to OPEN CARRY is not only to protect yourself, but others. The more you open carry, the more the police and general public undersdtands that there are good guys with guns... less likely I will get shot, less likely you will get shot...
    There seems to be a bit of conflict between the title of your post and its contents.

    Also, are you saying that the "40 percent of shooting by Central Florida police involved suspects who were unarmed" shouldn't have been shot? Why not?

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    Generally speaking, there are two reasons why unarmed people get shot.

    1. They make a threatening or potentially threatening movement, such as reaching into a pocket.

    2. They pull out or wave something that is mistaken for a gun under conditions of high adrenalin and/or poor lighting.

    In addition, most unarmed people who get shot were not doing what the police told them to do.

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    Pace wrote:
    Obviously the title is satirical in nature, and I'm point out that I open carry, and know I risk being shot.
    How do the "40 percent of shooting by Central Florida police involved suspects who were unarmed" fit into the satire?

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    If an LEO draws and opens fire on you for no obvious, apparent, or subtle reason, your are certainly within your rights to return fire and would be a foolif you didn't. You don't know who the fellow is, if he is really an LEO, or the why of it all. Just make sure you have all of your ducks in a row.

    There was a case some years back (not all that many) in Fairfax, Virginia where a homeowner opened fire on county police who violently entered his home... unannounced. He was acquited, the police were chastised, and the homeowner was lectured by the judge. Seems his honor didn't like the idea of citizens firing on police even in dire circumstances.


    In the final seconds of your life, just before your killer is about to dispatch you to that great eternal darkness, what would you rather have in your hand? A cell phone or a gun?

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    Just have to comment on the fact that he wiped out all of his posts after starting this thread. Kinda funny imo.
    The 1911 pistol remains the service pistol of choice in the eyes of those who understand the problem. Back when we audited the FBI academy in 1947, I was told that I ought not to use my pistol in their training program because it was not fair. Maybe the first thing one should demand of his sidearm is that it be unfair. Col. Jeff Cooper, GUNS & AMMO, January 2002

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    SouthernBoy wrote:
    There was a case some years back (not all that many) in Fairfax, Virginia where a homeowner opened fire on county police who violently entered his home... unannounced. He was acquited, the police were chastised, and the homeowner was lectured by the judge. Seems his honor didn't like the idea of citizens firing on police even in dire circumstances.
    Well then I guess it's too bad Ryan Frederick didn't live in Fairfax.

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    marshaul wrote:
    SouthernBoy wrote:
    There was a case some years back (not all that many) in Fairfax, Virginia where a homeowner opened fire on county police who violently entered his home... unannounced. He was acquited, the police were chastised, and the homeowner was lectured by the judge. Seems his honor didn't like the idea of citizens firing on police even in dire circumstances.
    Well then I guess it's too bad Ryan Frederick didn't live in Fairfax.
    I would never want to be in a situation where I had to open fire on an LEO(s). You have to know that in just about anyplace in the country, the deck is going to be stacked against you. But if the circumstances were of a nature that such action was necessary... well, I've rather stay alive.

    The Athens, Tennessee incident in 1946 comes to mind.


    In the final seconds of your life, just before your killer is about to dispatch you to that great eternal darkness, what would you rather have in your hand? A cell phone or a gun?

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    Is Pace Nitrovic? He was always deleting his posts so the black helicoptors couldn't find him or whatever reason he had.



    I don't delete my posts. Hello DHS. Hello FBI.

    Whatever...

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    If I am on any watch lists, I sure hope it has to do with tacos. Did you know they taste better when eaten while wearing a tinfoil hat?

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    marshaul wrote:
    If I am on any watch lists, I sure hope it has to do with tacos. Did you know they taste better when eaten while wearing a tinfoil hat?
    lmao...Funny how those being watched are never the ones that need to be watched.

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    So, is this Pace fellowretarded or just a troll?

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    HankT wrote:
    Also, are you saying that the "40 percent of shooting by Central Florida police involved suspects who were unarmed" shouldn't have been shot? Why not?
    Isn't it HankT's rule that shooting an unarmed person is a bad idea?

    Sounds like those cops were, to use your favorite phrase, goofs with guns.

    Just sayin'...

    It is odd that Pace deleted all his posts.

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