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    Seattle Gun Rights Examiner pulls lid off political hypocrisy, social bigtroy surrounding upcoming gay PrideFest event at Seattle Center, and Town Hall meetings on youth violence, plus an update on the Holocaust Museum shooting


    http://www.examiner.com/x-4525-Seattle-Gun-Rights-Examiner~y2009m6d11-Political-hypocrisy-and-social-bigotry-swirling-around-edges-of-PrideFest



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    Good article. It is worth mentioning that Olympia Pride doesn't have that prohibition.

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    That's good information, and I will update the column in about an hour. Many thx!!!

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    Here Dave, I linked to your article in a very tongue in cheek socialist fashion!

    http://thepeoplescube.com/red/viewtopic.php?t=3562

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    sv_libertarian wrote:
    Here Dave, I linked to your article in a very tongue in cheek socialist fashion!

    http://thepeoplescube.com/red/viewtopic.php?t=3562
    Oh, that's good!

    Many thx...I think

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    Hmmm, what would be really nice would be if the NRA could buy every person in the gay pride parade a 9mm Hi-Point, open carry holster and pay for anyone who wants to get a CCL along with a free membership to the NRA. Total cost per person would be around 250 dollars (estimate) at maybe 500 people who might take them up on it costing a total of 125,000 dollars... cheap and effective advertising... plus swelling the ranks. The NRA could put aside 500,000 to meet any demand beyond that... if they did it now, many people could have their weapons by the time of the parade... but the NRA would have to act within five days in order to get everyone a gun by that time.

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    The next best thing is those NRA buttons from a few years ago when Chuck Heston was president that said "Armed with PRIDE"

    I gave a bunch of those to a guy named Ray Carter and I think he put them to very good use.

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    Dave Workman wrote:
    sv_libertarian wrote:
    Here Dave, I linked to your article in a very tongue in cheek socialist fashion!

    http://thepeoplescube.com/red/viewtopic.php?t=3562
    Oh, that's good!

    Many thx...I think
    The People's Cube is most entertaining. Some real cool people on there, and a lot of gunners.

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    What would happen if we organized an Open Carry picnic and leased city property for a location? Seems if we were denied a permit/lease there might be standing to sue the city for discrimination based on a constitutional right. Seems like Seattle Center might be a great place for a gun show, too.

    Charles

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    I was actually thinking more along the lines of a group of about a thousand of us or so just simply show up and join the parade...might get new members & "mayor 5 pennies" really couldn't do much.

    I'll try my contacts at "the abbey" to see what they think

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    5jeffro7 wrote:
    I was actually thinking more along the lines of a group of about a thousand of us or so just simply show up and join the parade...might get new members & "mayor 5 pennies" really couldn't do much.

    I'll try my contacts at "the abbey" to see what they think
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    Charles Paul Lincoln wrote:
    What would happen if we organized an Open Carry picnic and leased city property for a location? Seems if we were denied a permit/lease there might be standing to sue the city for discrimination based on a constitutional right. Seems like Seattle Center might be a great place for a gun show, too.

    Charles
    At this point the city would be acting in the same capacity as a private property owner and would have the ability to put so many restriction that you really would not be able to successfully carry on a gun show. Why do you think we have the PNWSA vs Sequim case? Because Sequim put so many restriction on them that it essentially shut down their show.
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    Charles Paul Lincoln wrote:
    What would happen if we organized an Open Carry picnic and leased city property for a location? Seems if we were denied a permit/lease there might be standing to sue the city for discrimination based on a constitutional right. Seems like Seattle Center might be a great place for a gun show, too.

    Charles

    Just to see what kind of contortions the city would try, I would like to suggest a slight variation:
    1. Someone reserves and rents a picnic area at one of the parks under some innocuous personal name.
    2. After the reservation has been made, announce an "Open Carry" event at the picnic. Don't provide the exact picnic table/shelter number, but just a general location ahead of time. Provide the exact location only at the time the picnic starts, as this would prevent the City from identifying a specific person whose rental agreement they could try to cancel.
    3. Invite the media.
    4. Maybe TWO people could make reservations for two different shelters on the same park at the same time for purposes of creating redundancy, and make it more difficult for the city to know who to target for cancellation of the reservation.
    Waitand see what the city does to try to weasel out of the reservation. Develop a counter strategy as needed based on the actions of the city.

    Regardless of what the city does, have everybody show up anyway and procede with a barbeque.

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    Or try to make it sound like it is an anti gun event. Maybe calling it "Why we shouldn't allow Concealed Pistol Liscensing" event.
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    sudden valley gunner wrote:
    Or try to make it sound like it is an anti gun event. Maybe calling it "Why we shouldn't allow Concealed Pistol Liscensing" event.
    ROTFLMAO! that would be perfect until they found out what it was REALLY about...
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    Good article, Dave.

    One note: Your PrideFest link in the first paragraph doesn't work.

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    I"ve been using some reverse logic to come up with a solution & think I may have come up with a viable answer.

    if, according to state law, businesses are allowed to 1) prevent loitering in their doorways & in front of their businesses, and 2) prohibit weapons in/arond their business, then using reverse logic, it should be that businesses are also allowed to ALLOW weapons in/around their establishment.

    Perhaps someone on this forum has contacts with some businesses on the parade route & we could be granted permission to set up some tables & distribute flyers.

    any thoughts?

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    I believe it is the Pink Pistols who have the slogan "Armed Gays Don't Get Bashed."

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    sudden valley gunner wrote:
    Or try to make it sound like it is an anti gun event. Maybe calling it "Why we shouldn't allow Concealed Pistol Liscensing" event.
    That would be quite humorous. However, there's aproblem with that approach: there are likely a few people monitoring this forum on behalf of Nickels. Therefore, anything that particularly identifies on this forum, a person or organization that rents a picnic table or shelter would be quickly targeted by Nickels. That's why I suggested an approach that would not allow Nickels' staff to easily connect a specific rental to a group of OCers.

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