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    First, I'm in La Crosse county. But most of the places I go and would like to carry in are chains. Since I tend to try to always avoid conflicts and hate talking to people I don't know...I'd like to know that these places will hopefully accept my open carrying before going. But I'm NOT going to ask them, so I'll ask you guys!

    I know Wal-Mart is good, I've OCed there several times already. Others have said Gander Mountains is good too.

    Anyone have any experience at these places:

    Marcus Theaters?

    Perkins?
    -Pretty sure they don't serve alcohol. Most other restaurants I eat at do.

    Kohls?

    Target?

    Best Buy?

    Valley View Mall? (for those in the La Crosse area)
    -I haven't seen a sign, and can't find anything on their website. But I know they have security guards...even though they aren't armed.

    Banks?
    -I've always wondered...cause seems like the last place I'd want to open carry, but legally, can you?



    And a big question I need answered is this...Below is WTC's Code of Conduct. I know I can't have a weapon on school property, but is inside my trunk considered school property? Or am I safe to have my gun in there while I go to class? I know the 1000 foot rule is there too, but I guess does my trunk count as my private property which would make me safe?

    Western Technical College's Student Code of Conduct
    The College will take action to prevent and stop any negative behavior that inhibits learning as a result of:
    -Use, possession, or distribution of drugs, alcohol, firearms, explosives, dangers chemicals, or other weapons; and/or use of tobacco on campus property.




    Thanks in advance!
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    There is no federal prohibition on carry in a bank. I know of no state prohibition but with 10,000 chapters of statutes and regulations one can't be sure.

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    Marcus Theaters? I have not carried here.

    Perkins? The Perkins on Hwy 83 has welcomed myself and some of my friends. We have eaten breakfast there openly armed.

    Kohls? I have not carried here.

    Target? I have had no problems with carrying here.

    Best Buy? I have had no problems with carrying here.

    Valley View Mall? (for those in the La Crosse area) Many people have OCed at Brookfield square mall and I have not heard anything negative.

    Banks? I OC at my local Chase bank and haven't had issues. Given that banks are targets for armed thieves, it seems one is more at risk in a bank without security than in other places like retail stores.

    And a big question I need answered is this...Below is WTC's Code of Conduct. I know I can't have a weapon on school property, but is inside my trunk considered school property? Or am I safe to have my gun in there while I go to class? I know the 1000 foot rule is there too, but I guess does my trunk count as my private property which would make me safe? First of all, WTC is not a school to which the school zone restriction applies in the definition of the law. This is becuase it is not a K-12 school. No, your trunk or car interior is not considered private property in the eyes of the law. Given they prohibit firearms on campus property (includes parking lot) you may be out of luck. Without knowing the consequence of keeping a firearm in the car, only you can decide if your life on the way to/from school is worth whatever consequence may be dished out as a result of keeping your gun locked in your trunk during classes.

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    Thanks for the replies.

    I don't go to my bank very often, but I was just wondering because since they are a place that would get robbed, you'd think they might be more scared when they do see a non-uniformed person walk in with a gun.

    For school, would parking on the street make a difference? During the summer I have a night class and could probably easily find parking on the street. During fall/spring semesters, I almost have to park in the parking lot and still have a hard time finding a spot.


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    The school zone law only applies to schools meant for educating grades k-12 technical colleges do not apply.
    Who is going to know you have your fire arm in the trunk unless you tell some one?
    In order for anyone to search your trunk they would need a search warrant unless they have probable cause to believe that you have committed a crime.

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    J.Gleason wrote:
    The school zone law only applies to schools meant for educating grades k-12 technical colleges do not apply.
    Who is going to know you have your fire arm in the trunk unless you tell some one?
    In order for anyone to search your trunk they would need a search warrant unless they have probable cause to believe that you have committed a crime.
    Wasn't sure if Wisconsin was just k-12 or not for schools. So good to know we aren't as retarded of a state as I thought.
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    J.Gleason wrote:
    The school zone law only applies to schools meant for educating grades k-12 technical colleges do not apply.
    Statute # ??

    Not doubting that this is the case, just haven't heard this b4.


    EDIT Found it

    948.61 Dangerous weapons other than firearms on
    school premises. (1) In this section:
    (a) “Dangerous weapon” has the meaning specified in s.
    939.22 (10), except “dangerous weapon” does not include any
    firearm and does include any beebee or pellet−firing gun that
    expels a projectile through the force of air pressure or any starter
    pistol.
    (b) “School” means a public, parochial or private school which
    provides an educational program for one or more grades between
    grades 1 and 12 and which is commonly known as an elementary
    school, middle school, junior high school, senior high school or
    high school.
    (c) “School premises” means any school building, grounds,
    recreation area or athletic field or any other property owned, used
    or operated for school administration.







    I have carried without incident all but once in LaCrosse

    Ace Hardware 3x

    Quillins 1x

    Home Depot 1x

    Farm & Fleet 1x

    Alltel Store by Quillins 1x

    South Side Walmart 1x second time I was asked by manager to disarm I've OCed in there 1x since

    Tractor Supply in Viroqua 1x

    WalMart in Viroqua 5x

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    J.Gleason wrote:
    Who is going to know you have your fire arm in the trunk unless you tell some one?
    In order for anyone to search your trunk they would need a search warrant unless they have probable cause to believe that you have committed a crime.
    This is correct. If you keep it in your trunk out of view, just tell no one, not even your best friend. Coupled with not consenting to a search, you will be doubly covered.

    Parking on a street next to campus property will not subject you to the same prohibitions as campus property.

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    J. Gleason: Read the statutes before you quote them. The school zone law only applies to grades 1 through 12. It does not include Kindergarten.

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    Lammie


    I haven't been to all schools but every one I know of that has a kindergarten, also has a 1st grade. Around me anyway, that point is useless. But, you correctly point out, it does specify 1st grade and not kindergarten. I think the point J Gleason really meant to point out is that colleges don't apply.

    But I was born & raised in smalltown America and not to familiar with the city living.

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    On June 23rd I ate my last piece of Kentucky Fried Chicken. When I sat down to eat I noticed a sign on the door"No Hand Guns Allowed". When I finished I asked an asst. mgr. If this was there policy or company policy. He told me company!

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    I forgot to mention this was in Mtn. Home, Ark. We dont have OC but we do have CC.

    Remember this when come down here fishing on Bull Shoals lake and Norfork Lake.

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    JG wrote:
    On June 23rd I ate my last piece of Kentucky Fried Chicken. When I sat down to eat I noticed a sign on the door"No Hand Guns Allowed". When I finished I asked an asst. mgr. If this was there policy or company policy. He told me company!
    I briefly searched kfc.com for "firearms" and got two hits in contest rules but saw no clear mention of company firearms policy.

    Personally, 'fast food franchise' is enough to keep me away. Maybe the most recent visit to a FFF for me was to Maurice Bessinger's BBQ.

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    JG wrote:
    On June 23rd I ate my last piece of Kentucky Fried Chicken. When I sat down to eat I noticed a sign on the door"No Hand Guns Allowed". When I finished I asked an asst. mgr. If this was there policy or company policy. He told me company!
    That last piece should have been years ago,

    Since Pepsico is the parent company behind KFC, Taco Bell, and pizza hut. They have donated alot of money and offered supportto the likes of Rosie O'donnel and her gun grabbing type.

    I will post a few references to back-upthis statement at a later time, I am heading out the door for a meeting shortly.

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    KFC is a brand and subsidiary of Yum Brands since 1997 when that company was spun off from PepsiCo.

    http://www.organicconsumers.org/corp/exploit122704.cfm
    Right Wing Extremists from Yum Brands (Taco Bell) Exploit Florida
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    Anyone have any experience at these places:

    Marcus Theaters?

    Perkins?
    -Pretty sure they don't serve alcohol. Most other restaurants I eat at do.

    Kohls?

    Target?

    Best Buy?
    I've OC'd multiple times at Kohls Target, and Best Buy.

    But honestly... A store name is just a name. People are people. Different people in different places.

    Carry ON! and make sure people in new places see and experience the non-eventful law-abiding nature of open carry.

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    Carried at the ridge theater today, no issues.
    The 1911 pistol remains the service pistol of choice in the eyes of those who understand the problem. Back when we audited the FBI academy in 1947, I was told that I ought not to use my pistol in their training program because it was not fair. Maybe the first thing one should demand of his sidearm is that it be unfair. Col. Jeff Cooper, GUNS & AMMO, January 2002

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    Well this is stupid....

    My PMs are disabled, and enabling doesn't turn it on. I can't edit my posts, and I can't reply to most posts, but for some reason I can to this one. I even made a new account, and it was the same way. I also tried using IE8 instead of FireFox. Also didn't work.

    Anybody have any ideas on whats going on here?
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    Err I can't even edit the one I just posted!

    Here's my error message when I click Reply, New Topic, or Edit for a post:

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    I tried e-mailing him but it came back as non-deliverable.

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    Hello all - While I'm brand new to the forum, certainly not new to the issue! Hailing in the substantially, "war is not the answer" suburb of WFB, I'm curious whether anyone on the north shore has information on carrying in this vicinity? I have no desire to cause the WFBPD to visit me and be the 1st to challenge issue in the Village (as I'm pretty certain I would be..). I believe in our rights, of course, but with kids, mortgage, disabled wife, unemployed, yada, yada...can't afford to be 1st test! (sigh).

    Before being here, never had issues, as never had any challenges while in uniform or near base.
    My philosophy? Semper Carry!

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    Welcome to OCDO.

    If "War is not the answer." I always wonder about the question. War, conflict has been the final answer for as long as there have been men. I imagine that war is not an answer to sheeple and the blissful (ignorance being bliss).

    The author of War Before Civilization: the Myth of the Peaceful Savage was a classmate.

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    Gunny M wrote:
    Hello all - While I'm brand new to the forum, certainly not new to the issue! Hailing in the substantially, "war is not the answer" suburb of WFB, I'm curious whether anyone on the north shore has information on carrying in this vicinity? I have no desire to cause the WFBPD to visit me and be the 1st to challenge issue in the Village (as I'm pretty certain I would be..). I believe in our rights, of course, but with kids, mortgage, disabled wife, unemployed, yada, yada...can't afford to be 1st test! (sigh).

    Before being here, never had issues, as never had any challenges while in uniform or near base.
    My philosophy? Semper Carry!
    I've been OCing in Thiensville, with out any problem, so I would think WFB would be ok. WFB is one of the places I forgot to sent a letter to. I will get a letter out tonight asking to get 8.01.1 of the village code off the books.

    UPDATE:

    Well I read the 8.01.1 a bit better, and find that only paint ball, and spring guns are "not to be carried". So firearms are ok. As long as you stay out of school zones (lots of schools in Bay) and the rest of the rules, you should be fine. If I have any extra time I will try to hit a shop or two on Silver Spring this weekend. I will let you know if I have any problems.

    Now I do not mean to sound like an a$$, but you do understand that if fear of the police is the reason you wont carry, then you already lost your gun rights. You gave them up.

    Now read over all the rules, and walk as a free American. It sounds like (with your service) you earned it. Dont let the people you protected take it away.

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    whether anyone on the north shore has information on carrying in this vicinity?
    What kind of information? With the states pre-emption law and the AG memo, you don't need to know about 'vicinity by vicinity' differences. School zone, alcohol consumption, vehicle carry restriction, government building prohibition. Remember those and thats all you need to know
    I believe in our rights, of course, but with kids, mortgage, disabled wife, unemployed, yada, yada...can't afford to be 1st test!
    With the exception of Jesus, I don't think anyone can afford to be the 1st test case. Forget money, I couldn't afford the TIME of getting arrested. BUT with everything that has happend, AG memo etc, I think we've come to the point where you MUST have faith in the laws. If you don't, you're always going to be a victim of your own fear.

    If you are going to wait to carry until you see others walking down the street doing so, you are really putting a self-imposed limitation on your rights.

    I don't make those comments in anyway condescending, I recognize you are new to the forum, so I would suggest reading the various county by county "carry experiences" threads. That might give you more confidence to carry in your neighborhood when you see that there are literally thousands of carry experiences across the state. No issues.



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    Nik, you have a way with words man

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