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    Sorry if this has been discussed already but, you cant oc in your car but how about on a motorcycle??

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    You must unload and encase in or on a vehicle and that includes automobiles, ATV, snow machines, motorcycles and bicycles.

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    put it in a case and place it in your saddle bag or anywhere out of your reach.

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    Doug, would the WI definition of vehicle include a wheelchair? ADA civil rights complaint?

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    The reference was to a motor vehicle.
    Please don't tell me the definition has to be posted .....again!

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    lockman wrote:
    Doug, would the WI definition of vehicle include a wheelchair? ADA civil rights complaint?
    http://www.legis.state.wi.us/Statutes/Stat0340.pdf

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    lockman wrote:
    Doug, would the WI definition of vehicle include a wheelchair? ADA civil rights complaint?
    http://www.legis.state.wi.us/statutes/Stat0167.pdf
    167.31 Safe use and transportation of firearms and
    bows. (1) DEFINITIONS. In this section:

    [ ... ]

    (h) “Vehicle” has the meaning given in s. 340.01 (74), and
    includes a snowmobile, as defined in s. 340.01 (58a), and an electric
    personal assistive mobility device, as defined in s. 340.01
    (15pm), except that for purposes of subs. (4) (c) and (cg) and (4m)
    “vehicle” has the meaning given for “motor vehicle” in s. 29.001
    (57).

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    (2) PROHIBITIONS; MOTORBOATS AND VEHICLES; HIGHWAYS AND
    ROADWAYS. (a) Except as provided in sub. (4), no person may
    place, possess or transport a firearm, bow or crossbow in or on a
    motorboat with the motor running, unless the firearm is unloaded
    or unless the bow or crossbow is unstrung or is enclosed in a carrying
    case.
    (b) Except as provided in sub. (4), no person may place, possess
    or transport a firearm, bow or crossbow in or on a vehicle,
    unless the firearm is unloaded and encased or unless the bow or
    crossbow is unstrung or is enclosed in a carrying case.

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    J. Gleason:

    There is no mention of motor vehicle in 167.31(2)(b). It says vehicle as defined by statute 340.01(74).

    (b) Except as provided in $xhitlist_md=target-id=0-0-0-186371]sub. (4), no person may place, possess or transport a firearm, bow or crossbow in or on a vehicle, unless the firearm is unloaded and encased or unless the bow or crossbow is unstrung or is enclosed in a carrying case.

    340.01(74)
    (74) "Vehicle" means every device in, upon, or by which any person or property is or may be transported or drawn upon a highway, except railroad trains. A snowmobile or electric personal assistive mobility device shall not be considered a vehicle except for purposes made specifically applicable by statute.


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    340.01 (74)
    "Vehicle" means every device in, upon, or by which any person or property is or may be transported or drawn upon a highway, except railroad trains. A snowmobile or electric personal assistive mobility device shall not be considered a vehicle except for purposes made specifically applicable by statute.

    340.01 (22)
    "Highway" means all public ways and thoroughfares and bridges on the same. It includes the entire width between the boundary lines of every way open to the use of the public as a matter of right for the purposes of vehicular travel. It includes those roads or driveways in the state, county or municipal parks and in state forests which have been opened to the use of the public for the purpose of vehicular travel and roads or driveways upon the grounds of public schools, as defined in 115.01 (1) and institutions under the jurisdiction of the county board of supervisors, but does not include private roads or driveways as defined in sub (46).


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    lockman wrote:
    Doug, would the WI definition of vehicle include a wheelchair? ADA civil rights complaint?
    Now, back to the question. No. It appears to me I ANAL that a wheelchair is not a vehicle.

    How about a Segway? Defined as an EPMAD and not a vehicle (unless it's somewhere else in the statutes). But not sufficient for me to have one, I'd rather walk armed.

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    I can see the logic in the law of no carry in cars and trucks. I cant see why you would be restricted on motorcycles. After all LE would be able to clearly see that you were carrying on a bike.

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    lowdog wrote:
    I can see the logic in the law of no carry in cars and trucks. I cant see why you would be restricted on motorcycles. After all LE would be able to clearly see that you were carrying on a bike.
    Becuase the legislators obviously think verylittle of us! Becuase we are all seen as criminals. if Bubba with the 3' beard and covered in tattoos is a scary enough image for them, how dare he be able to go armed legaly too!



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    Doug Huffman wrote:
    lockman wrote:

    How about a Segway? Defined as an EPMAD and not a vehicle (unless it's somewhere else in the statutes). But not sufficient for me to have one, I'd rather walk armed.
    Now come on, if Paul Blart Mall cop doesn't carry while on his Segway...

    That was an interesting question if not just for the fact that there aren't a LOT of those contraptions out there, but the numbers are higher than one might think.

    And on my motorcycle, right or wrong, everywhere is in reach. I don't usually carry saddle bags anymore since I tend to run a lot leaner when it comes to luggage. So there are more creative solutions to carrying. Unfortunately, it isn't as easy as when I lived in WY and just strapped it to my waist loaded and ready to go. You know, I really hate remembering how easy it was and how good I had it out there.

    I aim to misbehave

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    lowdog wrote:
    I can see the logic in the law of no carry in cars and trucks. I cant see why you would be restricted on motorcycles. After all LE would be able to clearly see that you were carrying on a bike.
    Then you have no logic.....



    What sense does it make to restrict a RIGHT just because you are travelling?

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    lowdog wrote:
    I can see the logic in the law of no carry in cars and trucks. I cant see why you would be restricted on motorcycles. After all LE would be able to clearly see that you were carrying on a bike.
    Then you have no logic.....



    What sense does it make to restrict a RIGHT just because you are travelling?

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    You figured that I have no logic all from one sentence??

    I will type slower for you.:P
    I can understand the logic while not agreeing with it at the same time. You see now??



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    lowdog wrote:
    I can see the logic in the law of no carry in cars and trucks. I cant see why you would be restricted on motorcycles. After all LE would be able to clearly see that you were carrying on a bike.
    Then you have no logic.....



    What sense does it make to restrict a RIGHT just because you are travelling?

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    lowdog wrote:
    You figured that I have no logic all from one sentence??

    I will type slower for you.:P
    I can understand the logic while not agreeing with it at the same time. You see now??



    SprayAndPray wrote:
    lowdog wrote:
    I can see the logic in the law of no carry in cars and trucks. I cant see why you would be restricted on motorcycles. After all LE would be able to clearly see that you were carrying on a bike.
    Then you have no logic.....



    What sense does it make to restrict a RIGHT just because you are travelling?
    Nope.... Type as slow as you want , there is no logic to it....

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    SprayAndPray,Do you post here just to create or addsome conflict to your life and others? I currently cannot recall any posts by you that were not some sort of bashing.

    If you are looking for conflict, may I suggest you find another forum wherepersonal attacks on peoplewould bemoreappropriate. (if there is any such forum)

    We at OCDO are trying to work together as individuals, and as a grouptowards a common goal. And that goal istoprotect our rights while the current government is trying their best to erode them.
    With your frequent inflammatory statements you are really not helping too much and I ask that you either stop the attacks now, or leave the discussion entirely.

    Do you treat and speak topeople in personwiththe same mannerisms as you communicate with themin this forum? I have very little tolerance for people that frequently bash and attack others verbally on a public forum, and wayless tolerance for someone that speaks toothers that way in person.

    If your bashing continues, I will request that you be removed from OCDO altogether.


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    Nutczak wrote:
    If your bashing continues, I will request that you be removed from OCDO altogether.
    not possible nut sack net nazi

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    Nutczak wrote:
    SprayAndPray,Do you post here just to create or addsome conflict to your life and others? I currently cannot recall any posts by you that were not some sort of bashing.

    If you are looking for conflict, may I suggest you find another forum wherepersonal attacks on peoplewould bemoreappropriate. (if there is any such forum)

    We at OCDO are trying to work together as individuals, and as a grouptowards a common goal. And that goal istoprotect our rights while the current government is trying their best to erode them.
    With your frequent inflammatory statements you are really not helping too much and I ask that you either stop the attacks now, or leave the discussion entirely.

    Do you treat and speak topeople in personwiththe same mannerisms as you communicate with themin this forum? I have very little tolerance for people that frequently bash and attack others verbally on a public forum, and wayless tolerance for someone that speaks toothers that way in person.

    If your bashing continues, I will request that you be removed from OCDO altogether.
    He made a statement that made no sense.... I called him on it and he still has not attempted to make any clarification, Sorry if my mannerism are not foo foo enough for you .... Still butt hurt over the car carry discussion i see?



    Get over it........

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    Nutczak wrote:
    SprayAndPray,Do you post here just to create or addsome conflict to your life and others? I currently cannot recall any posts by you that were not some sort of bashing.

    Here.... try these on for size.....

    http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/view_to...434335#p434335



    http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/view_to...418309#p418309



    http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/view_to...397766#p397766



    So are you happy now that you know that i don't JUST exist to piss in your tender cheerios?



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    Nutczak wrote:
    lowdog wrote:
    I can see the logic in the law of no carry in cars and trucks. I cant see why you would be restricted on motorcycles. After all LE would be able to clearly see that you were carrying on a bike.
    Becuase the legislators obviously think verylittle of us! Becuase we are all seen as criminals. if Bubba with the 3' beard and covered in tattoos is a scary enough image for them, how dare he be able to go armed legaly too!

    After reading over the law about "no car", I would agree with you. If you put a gun on, and ride a bike, it clears up the problem of people not being able to see it. I must say that I do not see any logic in the car ban at all. I guess we just have to push for the car law to get dropped, and the bike should be covered.

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    SprayAndPray wrote:
    Get over it.
    LoL

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    lowdog wrote:
    I can see the logic in the law of no carry in cars and trucks. I cant see why you would be restricted on motorcycles. After all LE would be able to clearly see that you were carrying on a bike.
    Actually it would appear you don't see the logic.

    167.31 is a _hunting_ restriction. The DNR got this one passed. They don't want you to have an open firearm in a vehicle because they're afraid you're going to illegally hunt from your vehicle.

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    You know if you guys spent less time splitting hairs and bitching at each other, maybe you would be able to get something done in WI. Grow up.

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