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    last night: "Riots in Los Angeles after Lakers' win"

    "Police disperse thousands as celebrations turn ugly after Lakers' NBA Finals win"


    We're came back from our blissful open carry vacation in Wyoming to this in Los Angeles. We're moving to Wyoming this week if we can, not next month. I don't imagine this happens in Wyoming after a rodeo.











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    You're not allowed to carry a gun in LA, so that such as this CAN go on without reistance. The residence MUST have a safe environment in which to riot and loot without risk of injury to themselves. Your safety is irrellevant.

    Dang, man, don't you know nothin'?

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    Is it just me, or do pretty much all riots happen in LA?

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    thx997303 wrote:
    Is it just me, or do pretty much all riots happen in LA?
    They seem to have a problem with self-control there. They riot when they're mad, they riot when they're happy. They just can't seem to control their emotions.

    They need a ban on emotions in that city. It's quite clear that those folks out there can't be trusted to handle emotions responsibly.





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    I wonder what the people in the car in the third pic were thinking. If I were ever caught in a situation with several angry people around my car, I don't think that I would have any hesitation in running over as many people as necessary to get out of there.

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    Flyer22 wrote:
    I wonder what the people in the car in the third pic were thinking. If I were ever caught in a situation with several angry people around my car, I don't think that I would have any hesitation in running over as many people as necessary to get out of there.
    haha!

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    My theory is that the stupid NBA playoffs take so fricken long to get over with that this is the natural reaction. I bet there wouldn't be any riots if the playoffs were shortened up to one or two weeks instead of MONTHS. Even the most self-controled individual; after being forced to hear about the games day in and day out for months, could find himself contemplating rioting.
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    You would think after Reginald Denny there would not even be hesitation to gun
    the car. But I would have already loaded my UOC gun and shot the thug that
    was trying to kick my windshield in and do who knows what to my
    "soap on a rope exit only zone". Being LA at least the girlfriend is safe.

    But no it isn't just LA, seems to be DC, Chicago, Seattle, NY, New Orleans.
    Wherever liberal excuse making is the norm, and guns are banned on site.


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    Flyer22 wrote:
    I wonder what the people in the car in the third pic were thinking. If I were ever caught in a situation with several angry people around my car, I don't think that I would have any hesitation in running over as many people as necessary to get out of there.
    And in that city, you'd probably be charged with murder and thrown away for life. Don't you know, we must give everyone their outlet for emotion, even if it's on the windshield and hood of your car. Your rights don't matter, obviously they are a persecuted group of individuals. Rioters rights need to be recognized!

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    Forum is going wonko.......

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    Stupid freaking website locking up........

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    "Eat at Reginald Denny's- where we save the yolks, and beat only the whites."

    Detroit used to have good riots but there isn't anyone left there.

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    MichaelWDean wrote:
    last night: "Riots in Los Angeles after Lakers' win"

    "Police disperse thousands as celebrations turn ugly after Lakers' NBA Finals win"


    We're came back from our blissful open carry vacation in Wyoming to this in Los Angeles. We're moving to Wyoming this week if we can, not next month. I don't imagine this happens in Wyoming after a rodeo.
    Stuff like that dont happen afteranything here Michael, Wyoming's a great place to live.

    Where inWyoming are you moving to? I moved here from California myself and dont regret it at all, even when the high is 8 degrees and I'm hip deep in snow!
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    Moving to Casper. Within a month, maybe sooner.

    We just came back from a vacation to Wyoming with ten days of peaceful open carry of pistols, and came back to this on TV happening 30 miles away from us. Was very disorienting.

    Glad we're leaving. Wyoming will turn into hell much slower than California.


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    Here's me open carrying in your town two weeks ago.



    This is me about five minutes after the first time I ever started to open carry, in the first town we hit in the state. See how happy I look? !

    My wife and I kinda liked that little hippie art restaurant. We had lunch there. They were playing Bob Dylan when we came in, but no one cared that we had guns. It was a nice introduction....That restaurant felt like a little bit of California, without the stupidity. Was a nice way to ease us into Wyoming!

    Here's my wife open carrying in your town, over in the parking lot of the porn shop by Pyro City (no, we didn't go into the porn shop, this is where took the guns out of the lock boxes and put 'em on!)


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    I once had a real Type Two Anti in the cab and he wanted to argue about guns when he spied my copy of American Rifleman. I asked him this same question and I will condense his answer:

    "Guns are dangerous and they are what made the dangerous places dangerous, and that's why you can't have a gun in dangerous places because that would make it worse. It will only get better if we can ban guns in the safe places too, because the guns from the safe places are coming into the dangerous places and making them dangerous. Besides, if you're in a safe place you dont need a gun anyway"

    My reply:

    "So if all the guns are coming from the safe places where we all have them, why aren't the safe places dangerous?"

    His rejoinder:

    "Have you heard the weather report? is it supposed to stay nice out like this??"

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    MichaelWDean wrote:
    Here's me open carrying in your town two weeks ago.



    This is me about five minutes after the first time I ever started to open carry, in the first town we hit in the state. See how happy I look? !

    My wife and I kinda liked that little hippie art restaurant. We had lunch there. They were playing Bob Dylan when we came in, but no one cared that we had guns. It was a nice introduction....That restaurant felt like a little bit of California, without the stupidity. Was a nice way to ease us into Wyoming!

    Here's my wife open carrying in your town, over in the parking lot of the porn shop by Pyro City (no, we didn't go into the porn shop, this is where took the guns out of the lock boxes and put 'em on!)


    MWD

    Nice! Folks here might look at your pistol when you're OCing but seldom will they comment on it. I've been OCing here for a year and a half and have had only 2 people comment. One asked what I was carrying and the other wanted to know where I got my holster.

    Casper's a nice town. Kind of big for me though, I prefer towns of not more than 20,000 population. Heck, all the towns here are nice, some are just nicer than others.

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    It's the water.

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    Huck wrote
    Nice! Folks here might look at your pistol when you're OCing but seldom will they comment on it. I've been OCing here for a year and a half and have had only 2 people comment. One asked what I was carrying and the other wanted to know where I got my holster.

    Casper's a nice town. Kind of big for me though, I prefer towns of not more than 20,000 population. Heck, all the towns here are nice, some are just nicer than others.

    Welcome home!
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    We need to live in a bigger "city" because the wife is a paralegal. She did have a job offer in Rawlins, but we drove through and stopped and she wanted to cry (prison vibe, refinery smell, and lethal wind), so she told them no.

    She'd probably have to be in Gillette, Casper or Cheyenne, and we liked Casper the best of all three. Waiting to hear back from a realtor in Casper tomorrow about a house we want to rent. Problem is renting a house that will take two smokers with three cats! (We need to rent a house there until we sell our house here.)

    While in WY, we got mad dogged by a couple, older out-of-state tourists. Fug 'em.

    I told a local about it and he said, "Good, maybe it will keep that type from coming back and deciding to retire here and vote Democrat."

    Had only two verbal exchanges about the guns, and both were sweet. One was just "what gun do you carry?"

    Here is my fave, posted from my blog ( http://www.stinkfight.com
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    Went to the McDonalds in Buffalo for lunch. Had the cutest encounter yet. There were three boys in there having lunch alone, without their parents. They were probably ages 8, 10 and 12. Boys immediately noticed my gun. The oldest one asked me, “Are you a policeman?” I said, “Nope.” Kid asked, “Sheriff?” “Nope.” Kid asked, “Highway patrol?” I said, “Nope.” (And thought to myself, “This young man really knows his different types of law enforcement!”)

    Kid looked at the ground for several seconds and then looked up and asked me, “What are you?” I replied, “A citizen.” Kid looked confused again. I said “In Wyoming an adult with no felony record can openly carry a firearm as long as he’s not engaging in, or planning to engage in, a crime.”

    All three kids got excited, asked all kinds of questions. Had a good time chattin’ with them.

    When DJ walked back with the food and sat down, they said, “Cool! She’s got one too!”


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    modelo57 wrote:
    It's the water.
    you mean in LA something in the water makes people crazy?

    How long will it take of living in Wyoming to get the water out of every cell in my body and brain?


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    MichaelWDean wrote:
    you mean in LA something in the water makes people crazy?

    How long will it take of living in Wyoming to get the water out of every cell in my body and brain?


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    My grandfather always told me "never drink the local water in a new place." I always thought it would make you crazy. Now I know he meant that I might get sick from the strange water

    The body will flush out that L.A. water fast. As far as the brain, I'm still fighting this New England liberal water.


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    While in WY, we got mad dogged by a couple, older out-of-state tourists. Fug 'em.

    Ohh can you tell us what they said and what you said back? Were they from NJ? LOL

    Of course I know some dumbbrained MDers who are antis ( Baltimorons through and through)...but considering all the MDers who hang out in southern York county PA, and that I was OCing among them for hours without anyone saying anything or even really noticing, I'd say MDers can be pretty decent on guns. Of course maybe most of them are from the North County like where I live, which has a very high gun ownership rate and lots of target shooting going on. Not to mention the rednecky counties on either side LOL.



    Hot damn, Wyoming! I was in Cody in 1990 with my parents. My mother recently told me that she went into a Kmart while there and all these people were OCing. Well I don't recall that at all ( good lord if I had seen that I would NOT have forgotten that!). In fact I don't even know a time we were seperate during that trip. Maybe she saw that in VT when we were there in 1989 and she got the 2 mixed up LOL. In VT she DID go off on her own one day to check some plant place out, and she told us later about this moose she saw. Maybe she went to a Kmart too while out and about and it was in a REAL VT town where "OC is a birthright".

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    XD40coyote wrote:
    While in WY, we got mad dogged by a couple, older out-of-state tourists. Fug 'em.

    Ohh can you tell us what they said and what you said back? Were they from NJ? LOL
    They tourists didn't say anything. They stared at us and frowned and pointed. At an open carry dinner with friends in Cheyenne. Here's pix from the dinner,
    http://www.stinkfight.com/2009/06/13...0-end-of-trip/


    but there are no pix of those people. We ignored them.

    the only other place we got maddogged was in this steak house:
    http://www.stinkfight.com/2009/06/08...g-day-5-and-6/
    By people from Iowa. They turned out to be staying in the same hotel, across the hall from us. They gave us dirty looks there too, while scuttling into their room.

    >Hot damn, Wyoming! I was in Cody in 1990 with my parents. My mother recently told me that she went into a Kmart while there and all these people were OCing.

    Here's my wife open carrying a few weeks ago in a WalMart in Gillette, Wyoming. While I took the picture, she was saying "Don’t mess with an armed woman buying tampons!"



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    Open carry isn't terribly common in Wyoming. We were all over the state for ten days, and the only people we saw doing it were our Free State Wyoming friends. But locals I talked to there said they've all seen it, but it's usually older ranchers coming into town for lunch.

    I get the impression though, from everything I've read and everyone I've talked to, that Wyoming is probably the state where you're least likely of all 50 states to get hassled for it (probably partly because of the cowboy lineage and tradition, and probably partly because it's the least populated state).

    We open carried everywhere, everyone noticed, no one cared (except those two tables of tourists, one in Sundance, on in Cheyenne) and we only got two comments.

    One was "Cool! What's your gun?" and the other was some wonderful little kids. I forget if I enumerated that exchange on here or not, but it went like this (text below photo):



    Went to the McDonalds in Buffalo, Wyoming for lunch. Had the cutest encounter yet. There were three boys in there having lunch alone, without their parents. They were probably ages 8, 10 and 12. Boys immediately noticed my gun. The oldest one asked me, “Are you a policeman?” I said, “Nope.” Kid asked, “Sheriff?” “Nope.” Kid asked, “Highway patrol?” I said, “Nope.” (And thought to myself, “This young man really knows his different types of law enforcement!”)

    Kid looked at the ground for several seconds and then looked up and asked me, “What are you?” I replied, “A citizen.”

    Kid looked confused again. I said “In Wyoming an adult with no felony record can openly carry a firearm as long as he’s not engaging in, or planning to engage in, a crime.”

    All three kids got excited, asked all kinds of questions. Had a good time chattin’ with them.

    When DJ walked back with the food and sat down, they said, “Cool! She’s got one too!”







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    I read with interest your whole "travel leg" on vacation. Thank you for sharing your experiences. I especially enjoyed the interaction with the young boys, too.

    Keep the Faith and please continue your contributions!
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