"GUNS Save Lives" bricks at Turning Point Park

nova · Jun 17, 2009

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CRF250rider1000 wrote:

Neplusultra wrote:

ed wrote:

Neplusultra wrote:

ed wrote:

TexasNative wrote:

FWIW, Ed routinely publishes his home address on teh Intarwebz. I suspect he (and Brooke, for that matter) are prepared in the unlikely event that any unpleasantness should come their way as a result.

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We are..

I used to block out my address but I am pretty active online and in the community and sending out OC cards, etc. So blocking it from YOU GUYS does not make sense when it is available to the rest of the world.

And TexasNative is exactly right (and don't forget I just bought a brand new Super Shorty too)

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Have you shot any 3" mags out of it yet? How was it?

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I said i BOUGHT it.. I did not HAVE it yet ;-).. It takes the AFT a looooooong time for the Class III tax stamp.

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I thought it was just a AOW, $5 thing that took no time...?

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ditto???

Last time I checked, most things dealing with the BATF takes a looong time. They have no rush :?. That said, having shot 3" mags out of my M500 w/ full stock, I have no urge to shoot it with pistol grip only, much less in a gun cut down almost 2/3 smaller! :what: (Yes I know Serbu doesn't cut down shotguns, they make them from fresh receivers from Mossberg/Rem, otherwise they'd be SBS instead of AOW).

ed · Jun 17, 2009

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nova wrote:

most things dealing with the BATF takes a looong time. They have no rush

Correct. I hear 2-6 months. And once they cash my check.. they SEND the paperwork to WV for processing. AOW is a Class III the stamp is 5.00 instead of 200 but the process is the same.

Grapeshot · Jun 17, 2009

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RedKnightt wrote:

What happened to the original thread? It appears to have been deleted entirely.

You have to protect/insulate the thread to make sure it is not"off-topic."

Let me fix it for you - Guns Save Lives when open carried - activists denied 1st Amendment expression of 2nd Amend in city owned park !

Group spokesperson says message is political - where in the rules is that restricted?
Personally, I think it is celebratory.
Maybe he means not in accordance with his version = censorship. :cuss:

Yata hey

RedKnightt · Jun 17, 2009

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Grapeshot wrote:

RedKnightt wrote:

What happened to the original thread? It appears to have been deleted entirely.

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You have to protect/insulate the thread to make sure it is not"off-topic."

Let me fix it for you - Guns Save Lives when open carried - activists denied 1st Amendment expression of 2nd Amend in city owned park !

Group spokesperson says message is political - where in the rules is that restricted?
Personally, I think it is celebratory.
Maybe he means not in accordance with his version = censorship. :cuss:

Yata hey

You've successfully lost me. Are you saying John/Mike deleted the thread because it was not specifically about OC?

ed · Jun 17, 2009

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RedKnightt wrote:

You've successfully lost me. Are you saying John/Mike deleted the thread because it was not specifically about OC?

I think they celebrate the GUNS Save Lives message just as VCDL. It coulda just been a hiccup of the server.. That happened on a message baord I run too and people thought I removed it when in reality I had no idea.

My guess that the subject is ok is that this thread has survived! LOL.

back to topic.. do we have any recourse to make them accept our message or sue them for other messages that we find do no priase norfolk, etc.

I wonder if "OPENCARRY.ORG" would be approved?

RedKnightt · Jun 17, 2009

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ed wrote:

I wonder if "OPENCARRY.ORG" would be approved?

It would probably be fine until someone in the office actually looked up the website and went "OMGWTFROFLBBQ!"

After the recent exchanges, they are probably vetting the applications a little harder. Plus, the deadline is over for submissions, isn't it?

ProShooter · Jun 17, 2009

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I would think that with all of the "gun trouble" Norfolk has been having, a decent lawyer could argue some kind of discrimination suit against the City for turning down this request.

...just sayin'

wylde007 · Jun 17, 2009

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But, since the submittal was "rejected" after review they have two options:

return the money (boo)

or

accept a compromise message (less boo)

Either way, it has been evinced by their past behaviour that the City of Norfolk and any enterprise through which it exercises a controlling interest is firmly in the hands of liberal censors. They likely will not accept any messages that contradict the ones THEY want to express.

Neplusultra · Jun 17, 2009

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ProShooter wrote:

I would think that with all of the "gun trouble" Norfolk has been having, a decent lawyer could argue some kind of discrimination suit against the City for turning down this request.

...just sayin'

I'd say take a part of the money collected and have a lawyer write a pointed letter to them saying either free speech or lawsuit with damages and lawyer's fees....

ed · Jun 17, 2009

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RedKnightt wrote:

Plus, the deadline is over for submissions, isn't it?

Yeah for some ceremony.. they still need bricks (they call em monuments) but I think there is plenty of time to still buy them if you don;t need it in time for the ceremony

ed · Jun 17, 2009

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ed wrote:

nova wrote:

most things dealing with the BATF takes a looong time. They have no rush

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Correct. I hear 2-6 months. And once they cash my check.. they SEND the paperwork to WV for processing. AOW is a Class III the stamp is 5.00 instead of 200 but the process is the same.

check cleared today

Decoligny · Jun 17, 2009

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wylde007 wrote:

But, since the submittal was "rejected" after review they have two options:

return the money (boo)

or

accept a compromise message (less boo)

Either way, it has been evinced by their past behaviour that the City of Norfolk and any enterprise through which it exercises a controlling interest is firmly in the hands of liberal censors. They likely will not accept any messages that contradict the ones THEY want to express.

This is where it would be great if we had access to the "approved" list of bricks.

If, and it's a big IF, they have approved anything like "Stop Gun Violence" or any similar type of statement on any brick, then they are allowing political free speech for one side of an issue while restricting it from the other.

Neplusultra · Jun 17, 2009

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Decoligny wrote:

wylde007 wrote:

But, since the submittal was "rejected" after review they have two options:

return the money (boo)

or

accept a compromise message (less boo)

Either way, it has been evinced by their past behaviour that the City of Norfolk and any enterprise through which it exercises a controlling interest is firmly in the hands of liberal censors. They likely will not accept any messages that contradict the ones THEY want to express.

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This is where it would be great if we had access to the "approved" list of bricks.

If, and it's a big IF, they have approved anything like "Stop Gun Violence" or any similar type of statement on any brick, then they are allowing political free speech for one side of an issue while restricting it from the other.

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Grapeshot · Jun 17, 2009

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Neplusultra wrote:

Decoligny wrote:

wylde007 wrote:

But, since the submittal was "rejected" after review they have two options:

return the money (boo)

or

accept a compromise message (less boo)

Either way, it has been evinced by their past behaviour that the City of Norfolk and any enterprise through which it exercises a controlling interest is firmly in the hands of liberal censors. They likely will not accept any messages that contradict the ones THEY want to express.

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This is where it would be great if we had access to the "approved" list of bricks.

If, and it's a big IF, they have approved anything like "Stop Gun Violence" or any similar type of statement on any brick, then they are allowing political free speech for one side of an issue while restricting it from the other.

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FOIA request wouldn't work?

Yata hey

Tess · Jun 17, 2009

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[align=center]"In honor of Danladi Moore
and his City of Norfolk
victories"

[align=left]Wonder if they'd take that instead.
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TFred · Jun 17, 2009

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I'm not sure how much space you get to write on a brick... but a simple:

Google Danladi Moore

will more than sufficiently do the trick.

TFred

hsmith · Jun 17, 2009

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TFred wrote:

I'm not sure how much space you get to write on a brick... but a simple:

Google Danladi Moore

will more than sufficiently do the trick.

TFred

Oh thats good

MSC 45ACP · Jun 17, 2009

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hsmith wrote:

TFred wrote:

I'm not sure how much space you get to write on a brick... but a simple:

Google Danladi Moore

will more than sufficiently do the trick.

TFred

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Oh thats good

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ed · Jun 17, 2009

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Decoligny wrote:

This is where it would be great if we had access to the "approved" list of bricks.

Request made today.

This is a request pursuant to the First Amendment and the Virginia Freedom of Information Act ("FOIA") at Va. Code 5 2.2-3700 et seq.
seeking the following records:

On the website http://festeventsva.org/mini-site/turning-point-park-project/the-turning-point-project bricks/monuments/markers/plaques are offered for sponsorship for various organizations or individuals. Please provide me a list of all personalizations to date, both approved personalizations and those that have been denied as well as any that were produced for no charge/donation.

Thank you.

If for any reason you anticipate that the reasonable search and production costs of this FOIA request will exceed $20.00, please notify me of this estimate and await my response before commencing the search and production of records.

I thank you in advance for responding within the statutorily required 5 days. Pursuant to Section 2.2-3704 (A) my mailing address is below and the records should be mailed there.

Neplusultra · Jun 17, 2009

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ed wrote:

Decoligny wrote:

This is where it would be great if we had access to the "approved" list of bricks.

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Request made today.

This is a request pursuant to the First Amendment and the Virginia Freedom of Information Act ("FOIA") at Va. Code 5 2.2-3700 et seq.
seeking the following records:

On the website http://festeventsva.org/mini-site/turning-point-park-project/the-turning-point-project bricks/monuments/markers/plaques are offered for sponsorship for various organizations or individuals. Please provide me a list of all personalizations to date, both approved personalizations and those that have been denied as well as any that were produced for no charge/donation.

Thank you.

If for any reason you anticipate that the reasonable search and production costs of this FOIA request will exceed $20.00, please notify me of this estimate and await my response before commencing the search and production of records.

I thank you in advance for responding within the statutorily required 5 days. Pursuant to Section 2.2-3704 (A) my mailing address is below and the records should be mailed there.

You're an evil man Ed, evil man :^).

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