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    I posted this over at UCC, http://utahconcealedcarry.com/viewto...;sk=t&sd=a ,but thought ya'll would get a kick out of this also:

    http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=6851011

    Concealed weapons permit holder stops would-be robbers June 17th, 2009 @ 1:26pm MIDVALE -
    - A man with a concealed weapons permit stopped two would-be Midvale robbers from making off with his friend's stuff. Police say the men were coming home from an errand around 7:00 this morning when they spotted the suspects with their things. The suspects took off on foot. One of the men being robbed grabbed a gun from his truck and started after them.

    Midvale Police Detective Sgt. John Salazar said, "Grabs a loaded 40 caliber handgun and chases with the gun, shooting rounds either into the air or into the ground as they were chasing." The gunfire stopped the suspects dead in their tracks. The men held the robbers at gunpoint until police arrived and arrested them.

    No one was hurt.

    Wow. I thought we were only allowed to intervene in a Violent Felony. i ALSO wasn't aware that we could discharge our weapons within city limits without being in fear of Death/Serious injury. Shooting to defending/recover property? Wow. I'm not upset or anything, I just didn't know I/we was allowed to do that.
    I figure this was OC appropriate, seeing as how it sounds like they were "Openly Running" with their guns in the open. lolz. Wow..

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    You have a good point there. It would be interesting to see what the aftermath of this situation yields on a legal stand point. I'll bet there is an eager anti-gun prosecutor chomping at the bit to go after the permit holder for the exact reasons you stated. If the suspects were running away unarmed, then it would have made better sense to just chase them and tackle them to the ground and detain them that way until police arrived. I can't believe I'm saying this either, but I think the permit holder went too far on this one. He is going to probably be in some deep shee. Maybe we should carry an extra magizine with blanks in it if just hearing a discharge can stop unarmed bad guys in their tracks. lol I don't think they would prosecute if it was just blanks.

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    wow i didnt know we could do that........ ok if the bad guys have baseball bats or knives or chains... i would probably shoot into the air, because they would have deadly weapons with them. but unarmed bad guys? hey, it stopped them. bravo to them for actually getting the bad guys to stop!

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    I'd be happy if the press would use correct terminology.

    There is a difference between a robbery and a burglary.
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    I hope they didn't shoot into the air. Who knows where that bullet would go, or who it might hit. I don't think I'd take a warning shot in this situation. I would do my best to chase them down. If they pulled a weapon, then mine would be right there to assist.

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    LovesHisXD45 wrote:
    You have a good point there. It would be interesting to see what the aftermath of this situation yields on a legal stand point. I'll bet there is an eager anti-gun prosecutor chomping at the bit to go after the permit holder for the exact reasons you stated. If the suspects were running away unarmed, then it would have made better sense to just chase them and tackle them to the ground and detain them that way until police arrived. I can't believe I'm saying this either, but I think the permit holder went too far on this one. He is going to probably be in some deep shee. Maybe we should carry an extra magizine with blanks in it if just hearing a discharge can stop unarmed bad guys in their tracks. lol I don't think they would prosecute if it was just blanks.

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    I dont think it has much to do with being "Anti anything". Its more about the risk posed to the public in general considered against the type of crime. I bet if an innocent was hurt there would be severe consequences.

    Sometimes being a rouge vigilante does have its drawbacks.



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    pussypounder wrote:
    I dont think it has much to do with being "Anti anything". Its more about the risk posed to the public in general considered against the type of crime. I bet if an innocent was hurt there would be severe consequences.

    Sometimes being a rouge vigilante does have its drawbacks.
    Agreed. "Warning shots" are a pretty dumb $hitthing to do.
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    I pray that is a minimal problem. Behavior like that could result in very conservative gun laws. That would hurt us all.

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    bigtoe wrote:
    I pray that is a minimal problem. Behavior like that could result in very conservative gun laws. That would hurt us all.
    We already have laws criminalizing discharge at the City, and State level. So this guy likely broke two or more laws.

    I don't think you need to worry about Utah Legislators using this kind of news to push more gun control upon us.

    If anything, it will convince them to ease up our lawseven more until these scumbagburglars realize that they'll be shot if the rob somebody!
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