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    Wow, that's crazy and disgusting. Thanks for posting that.


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    mark edward marchiafava wrote:
    The truly sad aspect of this is it's not an isolated situation, but a widespread pattern of how "they" think and act.
    And worse yet, it's done with the knowledge and consent of most Louisianians.
    What further proof is needed we now live in a POLICE STATE?
    The sadder point, which you referenced, is that most Americans prefer our police state to freedom.

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    Oh ya, I've seen lots of things that make you go "what the ****?!, why aren't people getting outraged by this?!" -- not just gun related stuff, but many things. My theory is we're (sadly) living in a society were a lot, not all, but a lot of people just don't care about anything bad happening unless it affects them or someone they know directly. As long as they still have cable TV, food, and a roof over their head they just don't care...

    At least it seems that way.

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    I'm 29. It may sound bad but to a degree I kinda HOPE they keep doing things, violating our rights, and do it in a major way to upset people and cause an uprising (not necessarily violent, unless needed, but at least people getting involved and active and giving a damn). The alternative is they slowly nickel and dime us, chipping away at rights, slowly but surely, and then we turn into another Europe. Makes me think of the whole boiling a frog slowly thing...

    As for the news, pfft, CLEARLY michael jackson is far more important than anything else going on in the world.

    Edit: This prolly isn't the forum to start talking about non-firearm related politics, and I can gurantee most people would not agree with my ideas of what needs to be done hehehe. I'm at school now but I'd be interested in talking with you in private messages later.

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    Oscarr wrote:
    I'm 29. It may sound bad but to a degree I kinda HOPE they keep doing things, violating our rights, and do it in a major way to upset people
    Won't happen. The show "Cops" is a running call to arms, and people can't get enough of it.

    This country's Puritanical origins will damn it. Americans hate their neighbors and love to see the government employed to inflict harm on those they hate.

    This is an anti-freedom place.

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    Ya but that just goes back to my point of, if it doesn't affect them DIRECTLY, they don't care. When I say "a major way" I mean things like out right banning ownership of all firearms, period. Of course, even then there may not be enough people that care, I'd have expected people to be vehemently against state-run health care, and wide scale amnesty for illegals, etc etc... yet here we go...

    Edit: This reply was for smoking357
    Edit 2: Geez I gotta get back to class lol. Leaving early today too, gotta go and try to find some ammo for my .44 magnum, weeeee.

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    mark edward marchiafava wrote:
    It's not that it SEEMS that way, it IS that way.
    Case in point: for decades, I've brought matters to the attention of the media, the very people who should be reporting these incidents.
    99.99999% of the time, the media ignore them. I usually close our conversations with these words.
    "When something like this happens to YOU and YOURS, then and only then will it be a headline story, for days."
    Sadly, Mark is correct about this - and it occurs with other subject areas as well, not just gun rights. With the advertising incoming drop due to the current recession, this may even get worse as newsroom budgets and staff sizes shrink as a result. The only stories that get covered will be the easy ones or the ones that have the kind of mass appeal that Jackson's death generates.

    We've seen this very thing happen with some news organizations blandly parroting the information they are sent in news releases without bothering to check their facts (which is supposed to be journalism 101).

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    I once pitched a story idea to a friend of mine who is a TV sports producer. I told him about the Cowboy Action shooting matches in Folsom. He was intrigued and wanted to do the story. I thought it was good from the standpoint that it would show gun owners doing something fun and family-oriented and would provide some interesting video opportunities.

    When he pitched the idea to his superiors, they squashed it because it would tie up a crew for too long to do the story.



    (HUGE SIGH)


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    mark edward marchiafava wrote:
    It's not that it SEEMS that way, it IS that way.
    Case in point: for decades, I've brought matters to the attention of the media, the very people who should be reporting these incidents.
    99.99999% of the time, the media ignore them. I usually close our conversations with these words.
    "When something like this happens to YOU and YOURS, then and only then will it be a headline story, for days."
    Not sure of your age, but you're miles ahead of the curve compared to the average schmuck over on bayoushooters.com.
    Now mem, what did this thread have to do with BayouShooter. ARe you so upset that there is such a large community of people who do not by your rhetoric, that you must take every conceivable attempt to defame them?

    Thanks for the ad though.

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    Ya but that just goes back to my point of, if it doesn't affect them DIRECTLY, they don't care. When I say "a major way" I mean things like out right banning ownership of all firearms, period. Of course, even then there may not be enough people that care, I'd have expected people to be vehemently against state-run health care, and wide scale amnesty for illegals, etc etc... yet here we go...

    Edit: This reply was for smoking357
    Edit 2: Geez I gotta get back to class lol. Leaving early today too, gotta go and try to find some ammo for my .44 magnum, weeeee.
    I agree hat most of society is so self-centric that if it does not have an impact, a significant impact , on their daily lives, then it does not register.

    You hit the proverbial nail on the head.

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    mark edward marchiafava wrote:
    Knowing what XD GEM just stated, I went the extra mile with some media outlets.
    I offered to have PROFESSIONAL JOURNALISTS prepare news stories/articles in whatever format they desired, I'd even personally sell ads to help cover the expense of running a story.
    No deal.
    They're not interested in the truth no more than the folks on bayoushooters are.
    It would conflict with their perception of reality.
    Again, who other than you brought up BayouShooters.com in this thread.

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    I really don't understand why Mark brings out so much anti-Americanism. Mark advocates the pure classical Liberal ideology of limited government and maximum Liberty.

    When did such ideas become distasteful?

    You people need to take the quiz and be honest about what you are:

    http://www.politicalcompass.org

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    mark edward marchiafava wrote:
    The truly sad aspect of this is it's not an isolated situation, but a widespread pattern of how "they" think and act.
    And worse yet, it's done with the knowledge and consent of most Louisianians.
    What further proof is needed we now live in a POLICE STATE?
    we have always lived in a police state with out it you are living in anarchy.

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    mark edward marchiafava wrote:
    Most historians claim the American revolution was fought by 3% of the population.
    Expecting a majority is not necessary.
    I can not find this fact pleas show us where this came from besides your ass

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    jimmyb wrote:
    mark edward marchiafava wrote:
    Most historians claim the American revolution was fought by 3% of the population.
    Expecting a majority is not necessary.
    I can not find this fact pleas show us where this came from besides your ass
    I'd imagine the answer came from his fingers as he typed it, unless he typed it with his ass, in which case that's pretty impressive. (See, I can be a sarcastic smartalec too!)

    As for facts:

    According to this: http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/...ns/001798.html
    the population was 2,500,000

    According to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Revolutionary_War
    we had 20,000 regulars and 230,000 militia for a total of 250,000

    250,000 of 2,500,000 is 10%

    Of course this is wikipedia, and mark may be getting his numbers from another source, either way, it's still a small percent.

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    jimmyb wrote:
    mark edward marchiafava wrote:
    The truly sad aspect of this is it's not an isolated situation, but a widespread pattern of how "they" think and act.
    And worse yet, it's done with the knowledge and consent of most Louisianians.
    What further proof is needed we now live in a POLICE STATE?
    we have always lived in a police state with out it you are living in anarchy.
    Is that so? How many people do the police murder, beat, rape, torture and extort in an anarchy?

    Since anarchy implies an absence of government, and since police are governmental actors, the answer would be 'zero.'

    Downside?

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    The problem is most people use the word "anarchy" to mean rampant chaos. Kinda like the word "assault weapon", it's used to invoke fear.

    I'm more for a pure democracy, we have the technology these days to make it viable. Just need a populace that is interested in voting and caring about what's going on.

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    smoking357 wrote:
    jimmyb wrote:
    mark edward marchiafava wrote:
    The truly sad aspect of this is it's not an isolated situation, but a widespread pattern of how "they" think and act.
    And worse yet, it's done with the knowledge and consent of most Louisianians.
    What further proof is needed we now live in a POLICE STATE?
    we have always lived in a police state with out it you are living in anarchy.
    Is that so? How many people do the police murder, beat, rape, torture and extort in an anarchy?

    Since anarchy implies an absence of government, and since police are governmental actors, the answer would be 'zero.'

    Downside?
    I am truly sorry to hear that the Police beat and raped you. Jist how big was the billy club that was used. Other than you I have never meet one. As for me when the police tell me to stop or laydown or hop on one foot that is what I am doing to not get beat tazed or maced.





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    jimmyb wrote:
    I am truly sorry to hear that the Police beat and raped you. Jist how big was the billy club that was used. Other than you I have never meet one. As for me when the police tell me to stop or laydown or hop on one foot that is what I am doing to not get beat tazed or maced.



    So you'll do what the police tell you to, no matter what it is? (Is that what you're implying, with the hop on one foot thing?) Just looking to clarify.

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    Oscarr wrote:
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    mark edward marchiafava wrote:
    Most historians claim the American revolution was fought by 3% of the population.
    Expecting a majority is not necessary.
    I can not find this fact pleas show us where this came from besides your ass
    I'd imagine the answer came from his fingers as he typed it, unless he typed it with his ass, in which case that's pretty impressive.
    I think he uses his ass to think with allso

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    Oscarr wrote:
    jimmyb wrote:
    I am truly sorry to hear that the Police beat and raped you. Jist how big was the billy club that was used. Other than you I have never meet one. As for me when the police tell me to stop or laydown or hop on one foot that is what I am doing to not get beat tazed or maced.



    So you'll do what the police tell you to, no matter what it is? (Is that what you're implying, with the hop on one foot thing?) Just looking to clarify.
    to not get beat tazed or mased at 6 foot something and 300 and something pounds I kinda make some people neversice( and I cant spell)

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    jimmyb wrote:
    smoking357 wrote:
    jimmyb wrote:
    mark edward marchiafava wrote:
    The truly sad aspect of this is it's not an isolated situation, but a widespread pattern of how "they" think and act.
    And worse yet, it's done with the knowledge and consent of most Louisianians.
    What further proof is needed we now live in a POLICE STATE?
    we have always lived in a police state with out it you are living in anarchy.
    Is that so? How many people do the police murder, beat, rape, torture and extort in an anarchy?

    Since anarchy implies an absence of government, and since police are governmental actors, the answer would be 'zero.'

    Downside?
    I am truly sorry to hear that the Police beat and raped you. Jist how big was the billy club that was used. Other than you I have never meet one. As for me when the police tell me to stop or laydown or hop on one foot that is what I am doing to not get beat tazed or maced.



    Another gun owner far to the Left of Obama.

    We all need to obey orders of armed governmental agents,
    F
    ORFREEDOM!

    This Independence Day, be a real American, and celebrate your obedience to the government.



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    smoking357 wrote:
    jimmyb wrote:
    smoking357 wrote:
    jimmyb wrote:
    mark edward marchiafava wrote:
    The truly sad aspect of this is it's not an isolated situation, but a widespread pattern of how "they" think and act.
    And worse yet, it's done with the knowledge and consent of most Louisianians.
    What further proof is needed we now live in a POLICE STATE?
    we have always lived in a police state with out it you are living in anarchy.
    Is that so? How many people do the police murder, beat, rape, torture and extort in an anarchy?

    Since anarchy implies an absence of government, and since police are governmental actors, the answer would be 'zero.'

    Downside?
    I am truly sorry to hear that the Police beat and raped you. Jist how big was the billy club that was used. Other than you I have never meet one. As for me when the police tell me to stop or laydown or hop on one foot that is what I am doing to not get beat tazed or maced.



    Another gun owner far to the Left of Obama.

    We all need to obey orders of armed governmental agents,
    F
    ORFREEDOM!

    This Independence Day, be a real American, and celebrate your obedience to the government.

    so you was raped by the Police. why dont you and mark take your guns pick a Police Station (any one will work) Stand outside and haller F you to them and shoot your guns in the air. Call the news before you go so thay can get it all on tape. The world would be a better Place after yall show the Police State we live in. TAKE ONE FOR THE TEAM.

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    Hi jimmyb, I notice you're 'new' to the forums, I'm new too! So far every post you've made has been in the negative light. Do you have a stance on openly carrying?

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