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    IMO this Bates guy is a real ******. Confronting people like that when you are not an LEO is just begging to get your butt kicked or worse. Three meth-heads and he just blocks them in? It's a wonder they didn't shove some of their booty up his butt and laugh all the way home.

    I spent about a year in a neighborhood where ****** hung out in front of the local 7-11 along with all the human garbage they attract. What I did was to get together with the neighbors and have a talk with the local police commander. I have better and more importnt things to do than to try and make myself a badass youtube star, and besides if I am going to do this, then why am I paying the police??? Sheesh!

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    Brian gets paid for these videos. This is how he makes his living. Prostitution has actually decreased since he's been around. I don't think any man who picks up a prostitute wants to be shown all over the internet.. especially when it will sacrifice their marriage/relationship, job, and criminal record.

    Johns who know about this man being in the area are less likely to pick up prostitutes in the area based off of those facts alone. There are no privacy exemptions when you're in public. Also, throughout the 10+ years he's been doing this, he's never been beaten up or anything. He also carries pepper spray and a taser, and is trained and licensed as an armed private investigator, so he's pretty crafty at what he does. He always makes a call to the police before he makes his busts as well.

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    I watched the first video and was too annoyed with the guy to even bother with the others.

    Thank you, Brian Bates, for wasting my taxpayer dollars by putting two consenting adults into the legal system for a victimless crime. *******.


    Edit: How does this related to a 2nd amendment oriented forum? Off topic imo.

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    I get a little kick out of the videos but NightOwl is right in both his following statements

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    Thank you, Brian Bates, for wasting my taxpayer dollars by putting two consenting adults into the legal system for a victimless crime.* *******.


    Edit:* How does this related to a 2nd amendment oriented forum?* Off topic imo.
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    Well delete it if you're going to complain. Is this really taking up your reading space? If you're not interested in the topic, you wouldn't have watched the videos and responded.

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    Yeah, "two consenting adults" may be selling and buying illegal drugs too. Does that make it an OK thing to do?

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    Aaron1124 wrote:
    Well delete it if you're going to complain. Is this really taking up your reading space? If you're not interested in the topic, you wouldn't have watched the videos and responded.
    point1 Not complaining, just educating.
    point2 Never said anything about taking up space.
    point3 Never said I wasn't interested, as I said I got a kick out of the videos.

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    Yeah, "two consenting adults" may be selling and buying illegal drugs too. Does that make it an OK thing to do?
    This brings up the great question of "Should it be illegal in the first place?" Just cause it's not an "OK" thing to do doesn't mean it should be illegal.

    Do we not live in a free country?........well.....not really. Wasn't this country set up for us to be free people?

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    What is considered "free" in a "free country"? Drug dealing? Prostitution? Killing? Is a "free country" really just Anarchy?

    I'm not asking to be a smart a**.. I'm asking because I'm really interested to hear peoples opinions.

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    I absolutely agree that we must have some laws, complete anarchy is complete chaos.

    2 consenting adults having sex is a far cry from raping and slitting the throat of a helpless victim.

    If there's no victim should it be a crime?

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    But what really defines a victim? If people get really technical, one could consider a prostitute a victim, especially if she has a pimp. Same with drug users. Of course, some just consider them straight up criminals and not victims. I guess it depends on what perspective it's being looked at.

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    NightOwl wrote:
    I watched the first video and was too annoyed with the guy to even bother with the others.

    Thank you, Brian Bates, for wasting my taxpayer dollars by putting two consenting adults into the legal system for a victimless crime.* *******.


    Edit:* How does this related to a 2nd amendment oriented forum?* Off topic imo.
    You said it. -1 for this whole thread.

    Vigilanteism is fail. Self-defense is more than enough for a peaceful society.

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    "Vigilantism" means "Taking the law into your own hands" - it doesn't always mean "Going around the law"

    Coming to the aid of another in a violent crime could be an act of "Vigilantism".

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    Technically, perhaps, but most of us would describe it as "defense of another".

    And that was my whole point. It's fine for people to prevent violence against themselves or others.

    But for a man to aggress against innocent/consenting adults, who violate a law imposed by puritanical religious morality, is truly wicked.

    In a peaceful society, this man would be rightly recognized as the aggressor he is, and the only "law-taking" would by done by those rightfully defending themselves against his actions.

    I shouldn't have said a word about vigilantism. I was agreeing to everything else that was said. I'll quote it again.

    NightOwl wrote:
    I watched the first video and was too annoyed with the guy to even bother with the others.

    Thank you, Brian Bates, for wasting my taxpayer dollars by putting two consenting adults into the legal system for a victimless crime. *******.


    Edit: How does this related to a 2nd amendment oriented forum? Off topic imo.

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    But then a person must ask thereself "Do I want my kids growing up, and going to school while watching this sort of behavior" going on in front of them?"

    I certainly don't, and hey, if he's successful in eliminating prostitution, then I say good for him, but of course that's just my opinion.

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    Woodchuck wrote:
    I absolutely agree that we must have some laws, complete anarchy is complete chaos.

    2 consenting adults having sex is a far cry from raping and slitting the throat of a helpless victim.

    If there's no victim should it be a crime?
    Who says there no victim? Maybe you're just too short and narrow sighted to see the victims.



    I lol'd at the videos. Good for him.

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    Aaron1124 wrote:
    But then a person must ask thereself "Do I want my kids growing up, and going to school while watching this sort of behavior" going on in front of them?"

    I certainly don't, and hey, if he's successful in eliminating prostitution, then I say good for him, but of course that's just my opinion.
    One could say the same thing in regards to their kids growing up around firearms or homosexuals or minorities.

    With that I would also like to say that this guy is not a vigilante. A vigilante goes out and dispenses justice on the street out of the bounds of the law. This guy is just videotaping and embarrassing people which is perfectly legal.

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    N00blet45 wrote:
    Aaron1124 wrote:
    But then a person must ask thereself "Do I want my kids growing up, and going to school while watching this sort of behavior" going on in front of them?"

    I certainly don't, and hey, if he's successful in eliminating prostitution, then I say good for him, but of course that's just my opinion.
    One could say the same thing in regards to their kids growing up around firearms or homosexuals or minorities.

    One could, and one would also sound like a bigot and idiot. Firearms, gay people, and minorities do not compare to prostitution in any way.

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    But then a person must ask thereself "Do I want my kids growing up, and going to school while watching this sort of behavior" going on in front of them?
    Parents have different preferences. That's all I was saying.

    You're right firearms, minorities, and homosexuals have nothing in common with prostitution except that they've all be legislated against (unfairly I might add). Morals should NEVER be legislated.

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    N00blet45 wrote:
    But then a person must ask thereself "Do I want my kids growing up, and going to school while watching this sort of behavior" going on in front of them?
    Parents have different preferences. That's all I was saying.

    You're right firearms, minorities, and homosexuals have nothing in common with prostitution except that they've all be legislated against (unfairly I might add). Morals should NEVER be legislated.


    True, but you can argue that prostitution has an effect beyond just the two parties involved.

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    Off topic, however, while this post isopen, prostitution is essentially legal in Canada. There are some subtleties to the law which aren't really worth going into, but the act itself is not illegal.Opposition to this is often argued by people similar to the Brady Campaign (in a similar method ie. I feel like hookers are bad without any real data to base this position on) withoutmuch effect. The topicofdecriminalizing cannabisis also hotly debated and has some substantial traction. Without a doubt, possession of small amounts is simply frowned upon without any real penalty. Whilelivingthere,I did notseeany chaosat all due to either of these situations.

    I take no position on eitherissue, but will tell you that organized crime has much less to do with eitherprostitutionormarijuana distribution than they do in the US. I'm not saying that there are no pimps at all, but there are very few of them. Escorts do not need the "protection" these people offer, as their choice of trade is not illegal. So, I do not believe that anarchy will result in decriminalizing either of these.


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    This has nothing to do with OC.. but I did enjoy seeing the video. It was funny!!

    But I could care less about prostitution.

    We all pay for it one way or another....

    You are going to pay for both a date with a girlor a street walker. The only difference is you jump ahead to the objective if you pick up the street walker and you do not have toworry about her asking for your number or if you will call her tomorrow.

    And if you factor in how many dates it takes with no guarantee that you will get lucky... The street walker is going to be a sure thing and cheaper.

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    AWDstylez wrote:
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    I absolutely agree that we must have some laws, complete anarchy is complete chaos.

    2 consenting adults having sex is a far cry from raping and slitting the throat of a helpless victim.

    If there's no victim should it be a crime?
    Who says there no victim?* Maybe you're just too short and narrow sighted to see the victims.

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    I lol'd at the videos.* Good for him.
    Ridiculous. There cannot be a victim without an act of aggression. Who is the victim? The state, deprived of sales tax? Back up your assertion.

    Prostitution is quite comparable to homosexuality, in that the object of concern is a sexual act between two consenting adults. Any "harm" caused by one and not the other is a self-fulfilling prophecy, likely due to the prohibition in the first place (for example, the popularity of "the street" as a place of business rather than private residence).

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    For those who don't think prostitutes are victims aren't looking at the big picture. Do you realize how many prostitutes are FORCED into this lifestyle via trafficking and pimps?

    When you eliminate the Johns, then the prostitutes and their "pimps" will start losing "business" in that area, and will venture somewhere else, which is what Brian wants. If you have something you want to say to Brian, comment his youtube videos or send him a message on youtube. He does a good job about responding to these type of things.

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    As long as we are this far off topic, well, as a cab driver back in the 70s I used to get approached all the time by women who would ask me if I wanted "a date" DATE???

    A "date" is maybe a show of some kind and maybe dinner or something of that sort. A hookup with a hooker is an assignation. Some guys might find prostitutes alluring, I do not.

    So I started carrying those "Chick" Christian tracts, you know, the ones where various people wind up in Hell? and offering them when accosted. Worked like a charm!:celebrate



    Besides I deal with enough ****** every time I freaking VOTE. I actually had a drunk get in my cab a few years ago and say: "Take me to a whorehouse!" So I drove him to the Hart Senate Office Building and told him the Capitol cop was the doorman. Told him the Polish babe named Barbara was good. Drove off.

    Wonder if he got lucky.....

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