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    I was kicked out of the Cambridge Walmart on Friday.

    I got a cart and started to load it up with the sale soda that was on a pallet by the door when one of the greeters came up to me and asked me if I was a cop. I said no and she said that I couldn't have the gun in there. I left my partialy filled cart and walked out of the store. I went over to the CUB accros the street and spent about $100 there instead. When I got home I called to talked to the management and Dwayne(if I heard right) said that it is not their policy but he would check with someone higher up and get back to me. I never got a call back. I've got audio of the conversation with greeter I just have to trim it down nobody wants to here the two hours of errands I ran befor the incident.

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    Contact Venator on the Michigan board. He should have any info you would need to call wal-mart corporate and have them inform that store that they follow state law.

    The guys on the Michigan board have emails from several different businesses that state that they follow state law.

    Here is the link to that info http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum30/13328.html
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    Joat wrote:
    I was kicked out of the Cambridge Walmart on Friday.

    I got a cart and started to load it up with the sale soda that was on a pallet by the door when one of the greeters came up to me and asked me if I was a cop. I said no and she said that I couldn't have the gun in there. I left my partialy filled cart and walked out of the store. I went over to the CUB accros the street and spent about $100 there instead. When I got home I called to talked to the management and Dwayne(if I heard right) said that it is not their policy but he would check with someone higher up and get back to me. I never got a call back. I've got audio of the conversation with greeter I just have to trim it down nobody wants to here the two hours of errands I ran befor the incident.
    good work - if managfement did not back up greeter, you might want to return and mention tot he next greeter that bothers you that "the manager told you gthere is no such policy so have a nice day" and go on about your business.

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    Joat wrote:
    I was kicked out of the Cambridge Walmart on Friday.

    I got a cart and started to load it up with the sale soda that was on a pallet by the door when one of the greeters came up to me and asked me if I was a cop. I said no and she said that I couldn't have the gun in there. I left my partialy filled cart and walked out of the store. I went over to the CUB accros the street and spent about $100 there instead. When I got home I called to talked to the management and Dwayne(if I heard right) said that it is not their policy but he would check with someone higher up and get back to me. I never got a call back. I've got audio of the conversation with greeter I just have to trim it down nobody wants to here the two hours of errands I ran befor the incident.
    A door greeter cannot ask you to leave. Only a member of the store management as --salaried member of management, or a support manager as I understand it can ask you to leave a walmart store...no hourly employee has the authority to do so. At least this is how I understand it.

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    I'd go back there and talk to the manager in person. Let them hear the recording. It isn't Wal-Mart policy to stop people from legally carrying.

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    Would really like to hear the audio.
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    suntzu wrote:
    Joat wrote:
    I was kicked out of the Cambridge Walmart on Friday.

    I got a cart and started to load it up with the sale soda that was on a pallet by the door when one of the greeters came up to me and asked me if I was a cop. I said no and she said that I couldn't have the gun in there. I left my partialy filled cart and walked out of the store. I went over to the CUB accros the street and spent about $100 there instead. When I got home I called to talked to the management and Dwayne(if I heard right) said that it is not their policy but he would check with someone higher up and get back to me. I never got a call back. I've got audio of the conversation with greeter I just have to trim it down nobody wants to here the two hours of errands I ran befor the incident.
    A door greeter cannot ask you to leave. Only a member of the store management as --salaried member of management, or a support manager as I understand it can ask you to leave a walmart store...no hourly employee has the authority to do so. At least this is how I understand it.
    I used to work for the company and it is my understanding that any employee can ask you to leave. Now, said employee had better be damn sure that when they ask you to leave that you are actually doing something wrong otherwise you may get written up for it. I had some people come up to me and try to sell me a golf course membership. I told them that soliciting was not allowed on store property and asked them to leave. They did so and I was backed by management so there was no issue. Most employees would not stick their neck out and ask you to leave like that unless they were reasonably sure that what your doing was against the interests of the company. Most would alert management and have them do it instead. I think you got a tool who didn't like guns and knew that if asked to leave you would.

    Personally, if I'm getting kicked out of a place I'd ask for the manager on duty and make them do it. Assuming of course they're not there already.
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    It is not company policy to ban legal carry. I would meet with the manager and play the relevant section of tape.

    In their training Wal-Mart says the typical family customers will spend about $240,000 over their lifetime at the store if you treat them well. Don't let them turn you away without a fight.

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    We have had three (3) seperate instances (to my knowledge) in Wisconsin. In all three, Wal-Mart management called the police.

    The first incident, the LEO actually DREW on an OC inside the store.

    The second, LEO escorted the patron out.

    The third, LEO lay in wait for the patron to exit the Wal-Mart parking lot and then six(6) cars surrounded the individual and detained him for almost four (4) hours.

    Contacting Wal-Mart through their on-line form, useless.

    Writing a letter to Wal-Mart customer service, useless.

    Asking for help/information from some other state threads, useless.

    My opinion of Wal-Mart..........., useless.



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    suntzu wrote:
    A door greeter cannot ask you to leave. Only a member of the store management as --salaried member of management, or a support manager as I understand it can ask you to leave a walmart store...no hourly employee has the authority to do so. At least this is how I understand it.
    Sorry -- you understand it wrong.

    Subd. 17.Posting; trespass. (a) A person carrying a firearm on or about his or her person or clothes under a permit or otherwise who remains at a private establishment knowing that the operator of the establishment or its agent has made a reasonable request that firearms not be brought into the establishment may be ordered to leave the premises. A person who fails to leave when so requested is guilty of a petty misdemeanor. The fine for a first offense must not exceed $25. Notwithstanding section 609.531, a firearm carried in violation of this subdivision is not subject to forfeiture.
    The law doesn't care about Walmart policy; you could be cited if ANY employee asks you to leave and you refuse.

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    I don't have a source for this right now, but in other Wal-mart threads, it has been stated that Wal-Mart's official corporate policy is that only a salaried member of their staff is empowered to tell a customer to leave. This means management, not doormen.

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    I have no doubt that is Walmart's policy, but THE LAW DOES NOT CARE. If you are asked to leave by the janitor, YOU ARE STILL VIOLATING THE STATUTE if you stay.

    Listen: in six years and with over 65,000 Minnesota permit holders, we are aware of exactly ZERO citations for violation of that clause. Why be the first?


    amaixner wrote:
    I don't have a source for this right now, but in other Wal-mart threads, it has been stated that Wal-Mart's official corporate policy is that only a salaried member of their staff is empowered to tell a customer to leave. This means management, not doormen.

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    Coon Rapids Wal-Mart had been problem free for me for a couple years of open carrying.

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    I recently recieved my permit to carry. Was thinking about giving elk river a try.

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    walmart is well known to simply follow the state law in regards to possesion.

    the greeter was WRONG
    not a lawyer, dont take anything i say as legal advice.


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    Joat wrote:
    I was kicked out of the Cambridge Walmart on Friday.

    I got a cart and started to load it up with the sale soda that was on a pallet by the door when one of the greeters came up to me and asked me if I was a cop. I said no and she said that I couldn't have the gun in there. I left my partialy filled cart and walked out of the store. I went over to the CUB accros the street and spent about $100 there instead. When I got home I called to talked to the management and Dwayne(if I heard right) said that it is not their policy
    well, guess you will know what to tell the greeter next time - "manager Duane told me that's not your policy, thanks."

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    I haven had an issue since, the last few months I have been concealing, but I will start open carrying again as soon as it's warm enough to leave my coat at home. I was in there today and I bought 6 boxes of 9mm for $10 a box.

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    Odd....there is no set standards it would appear.



    I was not bothered with OC in the West St Paul Wal-Mart.... but asked to leave in the West St Paul Target.



    someone called the Police to report "man with a gun" :what:....Naturally, the One LEO to show up was a 9 month rookie looking to his "big bust"



    He really should have payed more attention in school...

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    Wal-Marts' Official Policy from Bentonville, Arkansas is:

    Wal-Mart follows State Law.

    In Minnesota, Open Carry is Legal if you have a Permit.

    This holds true for both Long Guns and Pistols.

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    I open carried today and had my three year old daughter with me at Wal-Mart in Elk River. I have never been stared at so much in my life. I think just about every employee noticed and took special attention. Even customers where staring, mostly older men. I think it might be a sexist thing, or maybe they just "don't like guns." Who knows but I don't think I've ever shopped faster in my life. I was so glad to get out of there. I am pretty new to carrying and because of my wardrobe and larger size (and the size of my gun and the holster I have) concealing doesn't really work. But, I agree that a door person shouldn't be able to tell you to leave. My boyfriend carries at a different Wal-Mart all the time and they have never said anything to him.

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    another walmart post



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    aadvark wrote:
    Wal-Marts' Official Policy from Bentonville, Arkansas is:

    Wal-Mart follows State Law.

    In Minnesota, Open Carry is Legal if you have a Permit.

    This holds true for both Long Guns and Pistols.
    you are incorrect long guns are not allowed to be carried under mn carry law [PERMIT TO CARRY A PISTOL]
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    jweiss wrote
    you are incorrect long guns are not allowed to be carried under mn carry law [PERMIT TO CARRY A PISTOL]
    It doesn't really matter what is written on a permit card. What matters is what the actual law says about it:

    https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/...tat.624.7181.1

    (b) "Carry" does not include
    [3] the carrying of a BB gun, rifle, or shotgun by a person who has a permit under section 624.714;



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