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    What type of firearm do you prefer to use for personal home defense?

    Many favor the shotgun, due to it's incredible stopping power, and not having to aim it as well as a pistol, which would especially come in handy if you're dealing with an intruder and your lights are off. Many favor the shotgun because of the automatic fear an intruder may have if he hears the pump.

    Many favor the pistol, because it's small, light, and is easily accessible, and you don't have to worry about a long barrel when you're in a tight hallway.

    Then when it comes to choosing a pistol, caliber size is a great debate. Many favor the .45 ACP due to it's incredible stopping power. Others like the 9mm, .38 , .40 S&W and .357 magnum. All have good stopping power, but you also don't want to over penetrate either, and end up shooting out of your house or in another room.

    I personally like the 9mm and .40 S&W in Hollow Point. Both have good stopping power, but aren't over penetrating. I would definitely use a laser sight on it for use in the dark.

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    Using the same as I do in my carry weapon. Since I shoot almost exclusive .45
    I like and settled with Gold Dots, which I make up on my reloader and it clocks in at 880 fps. So it is good for Self Defense. As most any match shooter will tell you the minute you change anything the course of the bullet will also change.
    One reason I carry one holster in the same position always if I carry Open or concealed.

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    I have 2 shotguns and a 45 loaded and placed throughout my residence at all times.

    Always 1 nearby.

    edit---I used to have the 12's loaded with 3.5" OO buck but after watching "Best Defense" Wed. night I have since switched to regular trap loads. The premise being that in a self defense situation of 15 ft or less the trap loads do a hell of alot of damage but without all the pass through damage to personal residence as well as possible family members in other rooms.

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    My Glock 17 is always at hand.

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    I'd choose my AK with my shotgun being a close second. The main reason I'd choose the AK over the shotgun is because there is no need to manually reload after each shot. The 30rd magazine doesn't hurt either. I have to admit though the shotgun makes a very audible "you're f***ed" sound, the AK isn't exactly cutesy though. Also I have more experience with the AK.

    The main downside is the penetration issue. However I only consider it a minor risk because once the bullet hits something (wall, bad guy, furniture, etc) it's going to lose a lot of its energy and velocity.

    In reality it'd probably be whatever is closest.

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    Remington 870 Express Magnum.

    00-Buckshot.

    ALL pistols are crappy for killing with.

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    We have a few different things, First and foremost isour German Shepherd, if an intruder happens to make it past that, then they got my GF to deal with, her "first grab" weapon is a 20GA pump shotgun, with a 9mm for back-up.

    Now if all this noise happened to wake me up and the threat is not neutralized or didn't ran off on his own.
    Then I reach for my .357 revolver. It has glaser safety slugs loaded every other round in the cylinder with JHP's in between. if that isn't enough to stop the threat, then i'll just give the guy whatever he is after becuase if his effort.

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    Handguns, a 4" S&W Model 29 with Speer 200gr. JHP .44 Specials right now. I usually leave out whatever I've been carrying, but in the hot weather I've been carrying my 2" Model 36. I prefer something larger for home defense, so I have the .44 Magnum and the .38 out.
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    No reason to fumble with an underpoweredhandgun when you're half asleep. One shot stopping power FTW.



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    Mossburg 500 with 18" Barrel and 00 Buck. Mossburg makes a nice wall mounted lock rack. The key is in an inconspicuous place...on the gun itself.

    Also, an M1 Garand is always in my workroom; with loaded clips.



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    I leave whatever I was carrying that day by the bed. I mostly just hunt with my shotgtuns, although I do have one that would be good for household duty. My rifles would be pretty well useless, unless I wanted to take out the neighbors at the same time as an intruder. Hasn't come to that yet. Still, I bet nobody would laugh if I were outside in my shorts holding a burglar captive at the end of a FAL or Dragunov, say.

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    My brother who lives in Maryland, just bought a 12 guage pump action shotgun from Dicks. The brand is an offshoot of Harrington and Richardson...made in China I am sad to say. But, he bought it because he wanted a gun NOW, and 00 Buckshot was the only ammo on the shelf. The gun is obviously set up for home defense with a 18" cylinder choke barrel, and under $200.00. It is pretty nice...his family used to be really ANTI-gun...but have changed their minds.

    What is funny is that a while back, I traded him a Rossi .357 Magnum revolver for an outboard motor. He has tried to go to ranges in Maryland to shoot the gun, but they won't allow him because he cannot prove that he bought it and registered it in Maryland.

    I am glad I do not live in that state.





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    I use my carry gun for home defense. I can't dial a phone, and handle a shotgun.

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    To all those using rifles for home defense: please don't move into my neighbourhood! I don't want to be hit by your 7.62x39 or 30-06 after it went through the BG, closet door, 3 layers of dry wall and a piece of furniture. And yes, chances are it will still have energy to kill.

    Using rifles for home defense is outright reckless and dangerous - the amount of overpenetration of a decent rifle round is for sure more than you can afford.

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    Chaingun81 wrote:
    To all those using rifles for home defense: please don't move into my neighbourhood! I don't want to be hit by your 7.62x39 or 30-06 after it went through the BG, closet door, 3 layers of dry wall and a piece of furniture. And yes, chances are it will still have energy to kill.

    Using rifles for home defense is outright reckless and dangerous - the amount of overpenetration of a decent rifle round is for sure more than you can afford.
    x2

    Unless you're the only one in the house, with no neighbors for miles, using a rifle is idiotic at best. You could probably put a even a medium sized, FMJ rifle round (.223 or 7.62x39) in one side of a small/medium sized house and out the other side.

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    AWDstylez wrote:
    Chaingun81 wrote:
    To all those using rifles for home defense: please don't move into my neighbourhood! I don't want to be hit by your 7.62x39 or 30-06 after it went through the BG, closet door, 3 layers of dry wall and a piece of furniture. And yes, chances are it will still have energy to kill.

    Using rifles for home defense is outright reckless and dangerous - the amount of overpenetration of a decent rifle round is for sure more than you can afford.
    x2

    Unless you're the only one in the house, with no neighbors for miles, using a rifle is idiotic at best. You could probably put a even a medium sized, FMJ rifle round (.223 or 7.62x39) in one side of a small/medium sized house and out the other side.

    Absolutely. There was a test somewhere online where they shoot different loads at several layers of drywall and show the result. Every single load went through a standard house wall (not where the stud is), even 22 and birdshot. 30ish caliber rifle rounds were blasting through many and many layers.

    Yes, only exception for a rifle would be if there is nobody else inside your home and you are living at a ranch in the desert or in the mountains with no people for many miles around. And even then, I don't really understand why you would need a rifle for SD inside your home...


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    Makes me want to whip out my .500 S&W when an intruder breaks in my home.

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    I like the shotgun as an all-around firearm for defense and survival,

    But I think an AR-15 in pistol configuration would make one heck of a nice home defense weapon too. The shorter barrel would make it easy to use in tight spaces, it would knock off some of the penetration and loading the ammo with
    highly-frangible projectiles would help too.
    You could even get the 100 Rnd drum-mags available currently.

    But hands dowm a pistol-gripped or folding stock 12GA is hard to beat. Rubber pellets for the first 3 rounds would be even nicer. You could issue some much deserved pain and knock-down without needing to take a life in those states
    without a decent castle doctrine.

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    This... plus several strategically placed pistols. Not counting the one I have on me at all practical times.



    Rubber pellets? LMAO! More like first two rounds are 000 Buck follwed by semi-jacketed hollow point slugs. 'They wanta' party... I got the noisemakers.

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    I had the same idea once...I carried a revolver whereby the first round would be one of those "snake-shot" rounds. My idea was that a perpetrator would be "stung" by the pellets and if he decided not to retreat, the next five would be hollowpoints.

    A friend of mine who was an FBI agent was looking at my gun and said: "What the 'F' is this?" I explained my theory and he said: "Are you crazy? You want the first round to end the confrontation. You are leaving yourself open to all sorts of lawsuits."

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    no big deal...

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    If you are in a situation where you can stack the deck way in advance (such as your own house) ahandgun is only used to buy you time to get to a long gun. No rifles, even if the construction is concrete block or brick. Pump shotgun with #4 buck.

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    Anyone have some links to tests they've done on penetration with different rounds? I'm not interested in a test with construction material. I'd like something more realistic, like they actually go into an abandoned house and fire off rounds and see where they end up, if they continue along their initial path, and if they still have enough energy to kill anything.

    I'm sure even a FMJ from a pistol would go out the side of a house if it only had drywall and insulation in the way. Buckshot would probably at least go through a wall or two.

    Preference is for something I can easily operate at 2 in the morning, just woken up, with adrenaline pumping.

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    r6-rider wrote:


    no big deal...


    You better hope they only coming in from that angle.

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    My nightstand piece is a Taurus Judge loaded with 000 buckshot. I also have a modified mossberg 500 12 ga. in the gun cabinet loaded with 00 buckshot. It also has 5 more rounds of 00 in a holder on the stock and another holder on the receiver with 6 shells of rifled slugs.
    “The 1911 pistol remains the service pistol of choice in the eyes of those who understand the problem. Back when we audited the FBI academy in 1947, I was told that I ought not to use my pistol in their training program because it was not fair. Maybe the first thing one should demand of his sidearm is that it be unfair.” — Col. Jeff Cooper, GUNS & AMMO, January 2002

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