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Richmond Grand Jury indicts Eric G. Driver for defending car and girlfriend

GWRedDragon

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LEO 229 wrote:
Would I draw dawn? Sure.
Ah, but I cannot do this by law. This is what I was talking about.

If I were in Texas where I could legally shoot someone to prevent them from stealing my car, I wouldn't just draw and pop off rounds immediately...instead I would draw and order them out of the car. If they came at me, I'd fire.
 

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GWRedDragon wrote:
LEO 229 wrote:
Would I draw dawn? Sure.
Ah, but I cannot do this by law. This is what I was talking about.

If I were in Texas where I could legally shoot someone to prevent them from stealing my car, I wouldn't just draw and pop off rounds immediately...instead I would draw and order them out of the car. If they came at me, I'd fire.

The state law makers added a section to allow me because it is part of my job. Otherwise... bad guys could "fake it" and then charge me for drawing my gun thinking they were armed only to find they were no threat at all.

This would require me to KNOW they had a gun before I drew mine or I would have to wait for them to become an obvious threat. This means I would have to react instead of act.This puts me at a disadvantage attempting to perform my duties while acting as a law enforcement officer.

Read the code and decide how you would apply it to your own situation. It seems that you CAN do itbut you just need to explain and justify why.


So you might want to rethink your statement that you "cannot"....




http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+18.2-282

§ 18.2-282. Pointing, holding, or brandishing firearm, air or gas operated weapon or object similar in appearance; penalty.

A. It shall be unlawful for any person to point, hold or brandish any firearm or any air or gas operated weapon or any object similar in appearance, whether capable of being fired or not, in such manner as to reasonably induce fear in the mind of another or hold a firearm or any air or gas operated weapon in a public place in such a manner as to reasonably induce fear in the mind of another of being shot or injured. However, this section shall not apply to any person engaged in excusable or justifiable self-defense. Persons violating the provisions of this section shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor or, if the violation occurs upon any public, private or religious elementary, middle or high school, including buildings and grounds or upon public property within 1,000 feet of such school property, he shall be guilty of a Class 6 felony.

B. Any police officer in the performance of his duty, in making an arrest under the provisions of this section, shall not be civilly liable in damages for injuries or death resulting to the person being arrested if he had reason to believe that the person being arrested was pointing, holding, or brandishing such firearm or air or gas operated weapon, or object that was similar in appearance, with intent to induce fear in the mind of another.

C. For purposes of this section, the word "firearm" means any weapon that will or is designed to or may readily be converted to expel single or multiple projectiles by the action of an explosion of a combustible material. The word "ammunition," as used herein, shall mean a cartridge, pellet, ball, missile or projectile adapted for use in a firearm.
 

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Stacy wrote:
"The idea that I am not allowed to use deadly force to protect my property, yet the police ARE has always seemed strange to me. It would be nice if they could change this someday. In the meantime the police will just have to deal with it :?

There are plenty of other states where you can legally use deadly force to protect property."



Good Luck even getting the police to show up for a car break in. If you're really nice they might take a report over the phone when the criminal is all done.

Heck, a drunk driver crashed his truck into a tree in my neighbor's yard across the street from my house a couple years ago. Norfolk PD couldn't make it out in time to arrest them. We called 911 and let them know. No Rescue was sent. Police took over 45 minutes to respond.

End result? The drunk driver & passenger (underage by own admission while the driver took off in a 2nd vehicle) got away, the tree was severely tilted, and their vehicle was taken away before the police showed.

The BGs never got caught. Their accomplice who aided and abetted in fleeing from the scene of an accident was never caught either.
 
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