18.2-308(G)(7):Earlier this month Virginia passed a admendment to the CWP application which sts that a online gun safety course would be accepted. dose any one know of one that Virgina will accept.
http://www.virginiaCHPtraining.comwongzilla wrote:18.2-308(G)(7):Earlier this month Virginia passed a admendment to the CWP application which sts that a online gun safety course would be accepted. dose any one know of one that Virgina will accept.
7. Completing any firearms training or safety course or class, including an electronic, video, or on-line course, conducted by a state-certified or National Rifle Association-certified firearms instructor;
While many people have successfully used The Concealed Carry Institute's certification to fulfill the demonstrated competence requirement for the Virginia CHP in their resident counties, it does not state on their web site that they are a state-certified or National Rifle Association-certified firearms instructor. They merely state:
[size=IT'S THE LAW!][size=[b]Effective July 1st, 2009, the Certificate of Completion issued by the Concealed Carry Institute is to be accepted by every circuit court in Virginia, as well as by the State Police for their issuance of Non-resident permits.Section 18.2-308 (G)(7), Code of Virginia, 1950, as amended.][/b]
Buyer beware. Where does Virginia maintain an official list of state-certified firearms instructors? Where does the NRA maintain an official list of certified firearms instructors? Why does The Concealed Carry Institute not provide this information on their web site?
I have sent an e-mail to them asking for proof of certification and also suggested that they add such proof, or a link to such proof, to their web site. I'll let you know what I hear back from them.
He is.. I know himEd both links go to the same site. concealed-carry.net and it was my impression that the instructor was NRA certified also.
The purpose is to make it as painless as possible to get a CHP. Eventually maybe we'll see vermont carry.I am just about finished my online course for brain surgery. With this course you have to have some practical experience, so I'll need a volunteer or two or at least until I get in right. Any volunteers.
I was really worried about the online course thing, but when I found they require practical experience I sure felt a lot better.
Cute... however as noted, this is training for a Concealed Handgun Permit, not for a "Gun Ownership Permit", or for a "Shooting a Gun Permit".I am just about finished my online course for brain surgery. With this course you have to have some practical experience, so I'll need a volunteer or two or at least until I get in right. Any volunteers.
I was really worried about the online course thing, but when I found they require practical experience I sure felt a lot better.
I cringe every time that I see that...and you're right - it happens all the time.Go to a range and watch for 15 minutes... watch people look at their firearm.. with their finger on the trigger, and turn the firearm sideways as if to look at the slide/barrel (while finger is still on the trigger) and they point at the person in the lane to the left of them, etc.
Well said, nova.The purpose is to make it as painless as possible to get a CHP. Eventually maybe we'll see vermont carry.
I don't need a permit for training to OC, why the need in order to CC?
You don't need training to keep a gun in your home for protection, why the need for outside the home?
I don't need to prove to anyone I know safe gun handling, and I sure as hell shouldn't need to ask the government for a permission slip before carrying a firearm for self defense.
Thank you DrMark!nova wrote:Well said, nova.The purpose is to make it as painless as possible to get a CHP. Eventually maybe we'll see vermont carry.
I don't need a permit for training to OC, why the need in order to CC?
You don't need training to keep a gun in your home for protection, why the need for outside the home?
I don't need to prove to anyone I know safe gun handling, and I sure as hell shouldn't need to ask the government for a permission slip before carrying a firearm for self defense.
I encourage everyone to get as much training as they can manage, from the best instructors they can find. Heck, I'll even plug one of our own: http://www.proactiveshooters.com/
However, the Government requiring training for folks exercising a basic right is typically a bad idea.
I am just about finished my online course for brain surgery. With this course you have to have some practical experience, so I'll need a volunteer or two or at least until I get in right. Any volunteers.
I was really worried about the online course thing, but when I found they require practical experience I sure felt a lot better.
Edited because I didn't read the whole post!:uhoh:kenny wrote:I am just about finished my online course for brain surgery. With this course you have to have some practical experience, so I'll need a volunteer or two or at least until I get in right. Any volunteers.
I was really worried about the online course thing, but when I found they require practical experience I sure felt a lot better.
Some of us here do believe that you shouldn't even have to get a permit to carry concealed. I.E. no training at all. Training is an important factor; however, in any fashion it should not be mandatory.
An individual should be able to strapa gun and carry it concealed without having to fulfill any requirement whatsowever, fill out an application to a governing body (i.e. ask permission to carry a gun concealed), and then be excluded for up to 45 days from carrying a pistol unitl the government stamps their approval.
Think of the woman/womenwho havestalkers, or a de-ranged husbandand the common sense gene finally kicks in telling them you are responsible for your own safety. Should they be excluded from strapping on a gun for 45 days. A lot can happen in just 1 day let a alone 45. Sure the easy option is to just OC; however, the individual may not be comfortable with that or maybe not allowed based on their company policy. Therefore they just want to go in cognito. Should they have to wait 45 days to carry concealed. I dont' think so.
rob99vmi04 wrote:Here we go again:banghead:kenny wrote:I am just about finished my online course for brain surgery. With this course you have to have some practical experience, so I'll need a volunteer or two or at least until I get in right. Any volunteers.
I was really worried about the online course thing, but when I found they require practical experience I sure felt a lot better.
Some of us here do believe that you shouldn't even have to get a permit to carry concealed. I.E. no training at all. Training is an important factor; however, in any fashion it should not be mandatory.
An individual should be able to strapa gun and carry it concealed without having to fulfill any requirement whatsowever, fill out an application to a governing body (i.e. ask permission to carry a gun concealed), and then be excluded for up to 45 days from carrying a pistol unitl the government stamps their approval.
Think of the woman/womenwho havestalkers, or a de-ranged husbandand the common sense gene finally kicks in telling them you are responsible for your own safety. Should they be excluded from strapping on a gun for 45 days. A lot can happen in just 1 day let a alone 45. Sure the easy option is to just OC; however, the individual may not be comfortable with that or maybe not allowed based on their company policy. Therefore they just want to go in cognito. Should they have to wait 45 days to carry concealed. I dont' think so.
So I gather you are in favor of government approval before anyone carries a gun either concealed or Open?
You read too fast. Go back and reread my post:?