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    I'm headed to the local shop tomorrow to pick up a new carry gun. Right now I'm carrying my Sig SP2022 and feel like it's a bit bulky. The weight doesn't bother me much, but I wouldn't complain carrying less weight either. I've narrowed down my options to three 9mm:

    • Glock 19
    • CZ P-07
    • HK USPc

    What do you guys/girls think? I've been going back and forth so I need a new perspective. Pros and cons for each?

    Thanks for the help!

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    I don't know much about Glock's and HK's, but I have experience with CZ since the early 80's... not that specific model, but the CZ quality. First rate, I have never seen one malfunction, that doesn't mean they don't, but in my 20 + years around them, I have never seen it happen.
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    My first gun was a Sig SP2022, and yes, it feels a bit bulky. My carry gun now (which I love) is my Kahr CW-9

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    So Anti, what would be your vote? I think I already know what j2l3 would pick.

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    If those 3 were my only options, I would go with the Glock. In addition to the excellent quality and reliability, everybody and their brother carries accessories for them.

    I would however recommend you take a second look at the Kahrs. I have a P9 that I originally purchased for CC because of its weight and dimensions but I have found that those same qualities are equally beneficial for OC.
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    Glock 19

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    I'd go with the CZ. Can't be beaten.

    :celebrate


    Although the USP is sexier-looking.

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    If you're considering the H&K USP compact, you might want to look at the H&K P2000, just about the same size as the USP compact but with a different safety/decocker arrangement. Different grip ergonomics, too.

    Also see the P2000sk, which is smaller, about 2 ounces lighter, and can be used with the 13 round USPc/P2000 magazines with x-grip adapters to give a bit more grip.

    I carry a p2000sk.

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    MrGray wrote:
    If you're considering the H&K USP compact, you might want to look at the H&K P2000, just about the same size as the USP compact but with a different safety/decocker arrangement. Different grip ergonomics, too.

    Also see the P2000sk, which is smaller, about 2 ounces lighter, and can be used with the 13 round USPc/P2000 magazines with x-grip adapters to give a bit more grip.

    I carry a p2000sk.
    Holy detailed relevant info for first post batman!

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    T-RaV wrote:
    ...I would however recommend you take a second look at the Kahrs. I have a P9 that I originally purchased for CC because of its weight and dimensions but I have found that those same qualities are equally beneficial for OC.
    Just like T-RaV, I was thinking of recommending the Kahr P9.

    When I want to conceal, I carry a Kel-tec PF-9. It's even thinner than any of the Kahrs, but a little harder to hold onto and worse for big hands (I have small hands). One of the great things about OC is that I don't have to trim down to my tiny PF-9; I can carry what I shoot best (Smith M&P40). Maybe you'd want to consider one of the compact M&Ps?
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    T-RaV wrote:

    Holy detailed relevant info for first post batman!

    Welcome MrGray
    Thanks, and you're welcome.

    Another obvious contender for a carry weapon, especially given that the OP has a Sig sp2022 which is too bulky, would be to look at the Sig p239, which is in the same size class as the H&K models I mentioned. But it's single stack, and you give up some magazine capacity, even against the 10 round P2000sk magazine. On the upside it would have essentially the same manual of arms as the SP2022 in terms of decocker location and operation, etc.

    You just have to love all the small handguns that were developed as a result of the 10 round magazine limit. So very many choices from so many manufacturers from CZ to Walther.

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    Always keep in mind what type of carry rig you want to use and what type of holsters are available for that gun.

    CZ's are hard to find holsters for.

    You can get Galcos and SERPAS for HK USP's and for Glocks easily. Glocks are so common that you can find a plethora of holsters for them. If you buy a CZ you'll end up with a "generic" or "any size fits all" type holster.

    I'd go with Glocks if you like the DAO striker fired system or with HK USP'sif you like the DA/SA hammer and decock systems.

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    shad0wfax wrote:
    If you buy a CZ you'll end up with a "generic" or "any size fits all" type holster.
    Untrue, I carry a CZ and have three exact fit, molded holsters for it. Two of them are leather.
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    Buy an XD-M

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    I reallymy XDm-40. I was thinking of recomending a XD sub compact.

    Maybe in OD green.

    And it comes in that wonderful .40 caliber.


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    I fail to see a wheelgun on this list. Tsk, tsk, tsk.

    Barring that, I'd choose the CZ.

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    buy 2 glock 19's for the price of a hk uspc

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    OP doesn't mention if it's for OC or CC, but I 2nd(or 3rd) the SA XD-M.40 for OC and suggest the Walther PPS for CC.

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    I'd suggest a .357 snub for CC and a Sig Sauer P226 for OC.

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    How about a M&P compact in 9mm? The M&Ps are really good guns and many departments are slowly switching from Glock to M&P because of the fact that the M&P can be suited to fit anyone with the backstraps. I was disappointed with the new 4th generation Glocks in that I was hoping they would have swapable backstraps, but they don't...

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    Thanks for all the advice. I definitely worried about finding a holster for the CZ. Also, the HK USPc was near the limit of my price range. I like the fact that I could get almost two glocks for one usp.

    Sorry, I didn't list the wheel guns because I've fired a variety and am simply not comfortable shooting them.

    The XDm 9mm was fourth on my list, but I couldn't find a holster for it either! Only holsters for the XD and people said the fit was a bit loose without some modification.

    This rig will be for OC most of the time.

    I guess based on the responses I'm going to compare the Glock and CZ when I get to the store. Anything else I should be aware of?

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    Admittedly, I don't have any experience with the CZ but I am a fan of Glocks and the 19 seems to be the most popular by far. Mags are cheap and plentiful, abundant holster options, easy to tear all the way down, absolutely reliable, and reasonably priced.

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    if you don't mind spending the money, get an FN FiveSeven...fully loaded with 20 rounds of 5.7 x 28, it's only about 28 1/2 ounces:celebrate:celebrate:celebrate

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    5jeffro7 wrote:
    if you don't mind spending the money, get an FN FiveSeven...fully loaded with 20 rounds of 5.7 x 28, it's only about 28 1/2 ounces:celebrate:celebrate:celebrate
    Thats a really nice gun shot it once, gives you very tight groupings.

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    I ended up getting the Glock 19. It just felt right in my hand. The CZ grip felt a little too rough for my liking and the HK was still out of my price range.

    Thanks to everyone for the tips.

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