National call to action S.845

From http://blog.vcdl.org/index.php?/archives/605-VA-ALERT-Federal-Reciprocity-bill-is-moving!.html

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1. URGENT ACTION ITEM: Federal reciprocity bill is moving
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Gun Owners of America is reporting that federal Senate bill S. 845, which would establish concealed carry reciprocity between the states, could get a vote as early as MONDAY!

The vote could be on the wording being attached as an amendment to a Department of Defense authorization bill, H.R. 2647.

It is based on the "full faith and credit" in the Constitution and would allow you to carry in any state that allows citizens to carry concealed as long as your home state would let you carry concealed!

Here is the operative language that would effect us in Virginia:

`(1) A person who is not prohibited by Federal law from possessing, transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm, and is carrying a valid license or permit which is issued pursuant to the law of any State and which permits the person to carry a concealed firearm, may carry a concealed firearm in accordance with the terms of the license or permit in any State that allows its residents to carry concealed firearms, subject to the laws of the State in which the firearm is carried concerning specific types of locations in which firearms may not be carried.

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Paragraph #2 is similar, but takes care of Vermont and Alaska, where permits aren't required to carry concealed.

It does not cover Illinois or Wisconsin, as neither have any legal way for citizens to carry concealed handguns.

To send an email to Senators Warner and Webb using GOA's web site, click here:

http://capwiz.com/gunowners/issues/alert/?alertid=13750856

Let's get cracking! Imagine being able to carry in NY, NJ, MA, MD(!), HI, DC (DC does have a "concealed carry" law on the books, but it's not used much at all), CA, etc.! Be still my beating heart...

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Am I the only one who thinks this is a terrible idea, and that this is the completely wrong approach to fix the nationwide carry problem? :?

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It is interesting to consider what will happen if this bill passes.

I suspect that many states, especially the "may issue" states where it is for all intents and purposes impossible to get a permit, will be very angry about this, and I see a lot of LEO abuse and many unjustified arrests.



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http://hamptonroads.com/2009/07/families-va-tech-victims-oppose-gun-measure

Families, Va. Tech victims oppose gun measure

The Associated Press
© July 20, 2009
Some of the survivors and families of the victims of the deadly Virginia Tech shootings are appealing to Sens. Mark Warner and Jim Webb to reject a proposed national standard for carrying concealed weapons.

In a full-page ad in Monday's Richmond Times-Dispatch, about 30 families and individuals urged the two Democrats to vote against the so-called Thune concealed carry amendment.

Sponsored by South Dakota Sen. John Thune, the amendment would allow people licensed to carry concealed weapons in their home state to legally carry their weapons in other states.

The ad contends the amendment would allow residents from states with weak laws on concealed weapons to bring their handguns into Virginia.

Tech student Seung-Hui Cho (sung wee joh) killed 32 people before committing suicide on April 16, 2007.

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Oh, Gawd, NOT the Va Tech families again? This is how the Bradyites work: they "love bomb" these poor bereaved souls and tell them they should "make a difference" so that their loss "will not be in vain". And THIS is an interesting twist: Virginia has to worry about OTHER states' "loose gun laws". HUH!!!???!!! Hells bells folks I thought the Bradyites said Virginia ALREADY HAD THE LOOSEST GUN LAWS IN THE NATION. Except, I suppose when it suits the Brady Bunch to say otherwise. :banghead:

Then there is today's Washington Post editorial on this proposal: "THE GUNS-everywhere-guns-for-all crowd in Congress is at it again. This time it's Sen John Thune's turn." The editorial goes on with the usual Post twaddle about "a frightening prospect" "reasonable restrictions" etc.; as well as a rehashing of the far Left's new-found respect for state's rights (as long as they agree with the states ). But here is the most astounding part:

"According to a coalition of gun-violence prevention groups, there have been three confirmed mass shootings carried out by people who had concealed-carry permits. The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence reports there have been at least 19 shootings around the country involving such permit holders"

Methinks the Brady Bunch is using righteous shoots in their stats. Anyone here care to root out the lies here? We are dealing with some really common low-down skunks. Truly.:cuss:

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National Park Carry not set to happen until FEB 2010, Congress could change something before then to stop or limit this carry. This current National Carry will pass no doubt now then in the future the feds will change it making it more restrictive for states like MT ID WY UT SD ND etc to be more like the Eastern Block Commie States and the Commie Left West Coast or just prohibit conceal carry all together by the feds like he says he can give and he can take away, remember changing speed limits, remember seat belt laws - the feds just threaten to not to give the states fed funds for highways until they changed their state laws of course of the states governors, attorney generals, legislator bowed down to the feds and changed the state laws. Both of these Bills were attached to something or another to pass - it's all a big game and part of the big plan.

Another part of the plan the Governor's Association just told the feds they do not need another stimulus package now, but they did not say they would not need one later.

Another part of the plan was that 33 State Attorneys supported the NRA in the SCOTUS case, all fluff, all show, all as some of you say "eye candy". Just like National Park Carry and National Carry is just "eye candy'.

Another part of the plan, yes the so-called National Health will be passed.

So what do the democrat and spineless republicans get out of these two bills of National Carry and National Park Carry ? SOTOMAYOR in the SCOTUS, then these democrat and spineless republicans have a majority on the SCOTUS, then anytime on the future from SEP 2009 & on they can drop the Carry Nationwide and in the Parks (the vote for SOTOMAYOR is in AUG 2009).

Also remember, Congress can pass it, but the President can Veto it. So Congress passes it then SOTOMAYOR is approved by Congress then President just veto's it or let's it become law to later modified or stop the law ---- guess how - the SCOTUS with SOTOMAYOR on it declares National Park and National Carry UN-constitutional.

then the Gun Carry People have nothing and democrats / spineless republicans have a majority on the SCOTUS which is why ? they are all (democrats / spineless republicans) worried about the latino/mexican/brown (these are the words SOTOMAYOR uses Capt Crunch) votes in the elections of 2010 and 2012

Think about Now who is in Power and who Controls the Admin Branch and Congress plus will soon control SCOTUS, figured the answer out yet ? So why would they give us National Park and Nation Carry ? as above it is all a big game and part of the big plan.

From the letters received back from Senators in even WY ID MT in the last few days by several of us, SOTOMAYOR will be approved for the SCOTUS, it is cut and dry.

NRA, SAF, GOA - will shortly look like hero's "to you" for the National Park and Nation Carry laws, but this will go away in the near. Plus they get to keep fighting supposedly for us - their job security.

As far as I am concerned State's Rights are being lost and the feds are becoming more powerful - which as our Founder's would tell us is not a good thing.

So supporters of this, you will go quietly into the night like sheep lead by the Judas Goats that speak with a Forked Tongue of a Snake. Many on here say they support the 2A but then they themselves want restrictions on the 2A. Just like the feds lied to the Indians in the past.

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