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    Funny part is, it wasn't in WA, it was in ID

    I had walked into a Gas/food quick mart, and picked up a drink. My strong side was toward the checkout counter.
    The clerk noticed, but didn't say anything until I got to the front of the line.
    "Are you a cop?" she says.
    I am dressed in jeans, a long sleeve pull-over, and wearing my Glock in a black Serpa CQC on my pants belt.
    "No" says I
    "You're undercover, aren't you? You know cops have to tell the truth- you can't lie"
    At that point I just smile. Can't lie? I'm thinking.
    "Cops are humans too" I say
    She is just too full of words to wait for me. She jumps in "That's what I tell all my friends! They all say cops can't lie, but I tell them they can too!"
    I smile and nod and take my drink.
    "Just remember that when you are asked a question. And no, I'm not a cop"

    But overall in ID less reaction of most any kind than in Western WA, at least....:celebrate

    How 'bout you? Get asked often?

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    That's hilarious I love the "You're undercover, aren't you" comment. I had two thug guys threatening my friends when they noticed my pistol the one guy kept asking if I was a cop and I just told him "I don't have to tell you that" they left and he still didn't know if I was a cop. I think my hair is probably too long for someone to think I'm a cop.

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    Make my day...Please

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    I get that all the time.A friend of mine told me with the mustache golf shirt and slacks or 5.11's i have that cop look.

    I told this story once before.But I was at the Starbucks as usual standing by the counter eating a donut with my coffee and this woman just looked at and said...You gotta be a cop. The girls at the counter that know me thought it was funny.

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    I would assume that question would be asked quite frequently. Although most police that I have seen that OC have a badge next to their pistol.

    I was asked the same question about 2 weeks ago. The funny thing is, I dont even carry yet. I was going through the drive through at a car wash in my SUV and it has a ton of wireless networking equipment and a laptop mounted on a stand for easy access. I replied "no, Im just a computer tech". I dont think she was expecting that answer :-P

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    NavyLT wrote:
    DEROS72 wrote:
    I get that all the time.A friend of mine told me with the mustache golf shirt and slacks or 5.11's i have that cop look.

    I told this story once before.But I was at the Starbucks as usual standing by the counter eating a donut with my coffee and this woman just looked at and said...You gotta be a cop. The girls at the counter that know me thought it was funny.
    Hate to be the one to break this news to you, but it was the donut.

    Donut + gun = cop
    Made me laugh.

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    Really guys there have been a couple of times in the last year that no matter what I said I could not convince them I was not a cop. Maybe if I loose the donut....

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    DEROS72 wrote:
    Really guys there have been a couple of times in the last year that no matter what I said I could not convince them I was not a cop. Maybe if I loose the donut....
    Just do something no cop would ever be able to do--rattle off the 4th Amendment.

    Or, you could be really sneaky and give the cops some bad image. Just say something like, "I've never given a traffic ticket to a cop, no matter how badly he deserved it. Nor, would I arrest a cop who was drinking and driving."




    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

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    The 4th ammendment.Really ...they may get so confused and dazed.

    I just picture a blank stare in a cops eyes if you told him of the 4th.

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    DEROS72 wrote:
    The 4th ammendment.Really ...they may get so confused and dazed.
    After I wrote that, I got to thinking about how I would say it.

    You think I'm a cop? Come, now. Would any cop ever be able to recite the 4th Amendment like this: The right of the people to be secure in their...
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

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    Good point!

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    In all fairness LE around here have really been supportive and will not bother you.There are a couple I have coffee with from time to time.Good guys.EXCEPT>>>





    KENT PD!

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    Almost every time I'm out I'm asked if I'm a cop... I think the next time, I'll answer "Why does that matter?" Throw the ball back in their court.
    Associate with men of good quality if you esteem your own reputation; for it is better to be alone than in bad company. ~ George Washington

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    Washintonian_For_Liberty wrote:
    Almost every time I'm out I'm asked if I'm a cop... I think the next time, I'll answer "Why does that matter?" Throw the ball back in their court.
    I've had some luck with smiling and playfully saying, "Good heavens! That's insulting. I would never stoopthat low."

    Given the reactions, I'm guessing there are a lot of people who really don't like getting traffic tickets.
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

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    Thats good ,folks may not know how to respond to that.

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    DEROS72 wrote:
    Thats good ,folks may not know how to respond to that.
    So far, they've given big smiles.

    Except for one young fella.It turned out he was taking a criminal justice class, thinking about being a cop.
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

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    Did he recite an answer from his text book or how he really feels.??

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    DEROS72 wrote:
    Did he recite an answer from his text book or how he really feels.??
    No. He looked slightly stunned, and maybe a tiny bit hurt. I was at an unfair advantage. I was his customer. Also, I think he was looking to create some common ground.

    I cleaned it up later, just by being friendly and so forth on subsequent visits. One of these days I'll remember to get him to promise me that if he becomes a cop, he'll take the 4th and 5th Amendment to heart.
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

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    That would be a good thing.

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    Citizen wrote:
    I've had some luck with smiling and playfully saying, "Good heavens! That's insulting. I would never stoopthat low."
    I like that I am going to borrow that if you don't mind, it's pretty funny.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
    "Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many citizens, because
    of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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    Funny, maybe, but you can't always predict how your questioner is going to react. E.g. we've got members here from WA who have had close relatives killed in the line of duty, what if your questioner was someone like that?

    I think a very neutral response like "Why do you ask?" serves the cause better, as it puts the ball back in their court while giving them the very least possible content to react to.

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    Old story:

    "Are you a spy? (secret agent, undercover cop, etc)

    "If I'm not, I'll say "No." If I am, I'll say "No." So what's the point of your question?"

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    While getting gas at Costco(yeah yeah I know) for the Suburban (40 gal tank) a small SUV pulls up behind me with mom and kid. Mom gets out to pump gas and the kid is hanging out the window. The little boy spots me and says "Look mom a policeman" He then says "can I see your badge?" Mom says "Joey, leave the man alone." I reply with sorry buddy I'm not a policeman. At this point mom says loudly "JOEY, get in your seat and buckle up..... I chuckle and smile at her and wait for the pump to finish.

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    I can pretty much guarantee I'll never be asked if I'm a cop. And if I am asked they'd better be carrying a white cane with a red tip or I'll offer up a rude comment.
    Perhaps if you would use a real computer you wouldn't have to apologize for not being able to do so many things on the internet!

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    I've been asked a number of times, and I always respond the same way, "No, I'm a proud citizen of the United States, who enjoys exercising all ofhis rights."

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