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    Walmart said they would not honor the new law that is going to take place that would allow employees to keep a firearm secure in there vehicle.. the way it is now just having one in the parking lot even on your day off and your fired... Why would they think there policy is above state law that says other?

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    Where did you get the information that they will not abide by the law?
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    my manager when I asked if they wanted us to use a secondary lot on the side or if we could use the main lot... I was told you bring it and your fired...

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    Would you care to share your location with us?
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    Power and Ray, gilbert.... it was an assistant manager they are all acting store managers since he has moved to another store..

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    Your manager cannot circumvent state law. Notify corporate that your manager is threatening employees with job loss for following a state law. Or have someone you know who doesn't work there do it on behalf of the employees.

    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLT View Post
    Him: "I carry my gun concealed"
    Me: "You're not very good at it"
    Him: "What do you mean?"
    Me: "I know you have a gun"
    End of conversation.

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    i_chance_all wrote:
    my manager when I asked if they wanted us to use a secondary lot on the side or if we could use the main lot... I was told you bring it and your fired...
    Does Wal-Mart do searches of employee's vehicles?

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    They do not as far as I know, but your allowed to buy a gun at walmart but can not bring one into the parking lot even on your day off even with other customers walking around with them on there hip in the store... The rules are the opposite for the customers and the ever so different employee customers.. Is there an ARS number for this new law yet or does that come later? maybe they can fire me breaking the ever so great walmart rule that can jump over the state law and then I can teach them a lessson when I get my job and back pay back...

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    Don't press the issue untill September 30, 2009 or beyond as the law is not effective till then.

    If possible get a voice recording of the manager threatening you with job loss etc.

    Good luck
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    Its some time but the freedom will be nice when I don't have to leave my right to protect behind... You can bet the day after I will post on if they do anything cause they will be watching me..

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    Personally... I would invite that granola eatin' 'manager' out into that same parking lot (unarmed) for a bit of attitude adjustment... 'cause those types REEEEEEELLY piss me off. But... that's just me. Actually... this is an overt Civil Rightsviolation that should be adjudicated in court. Y'all should file a class action lawsuit to that affect against this 'manager' personally and Walmart... if 'corporate' doesn't jerk him up by the short 'n curlies beforehand. These petty tyrants need a dent in their bank accounts before they'll ever get their minds right.



    55, 70 / SB 1168 / ยง12-781 / Ban on prohibiting guns in parked vehicles

    It's unlawful for a property owner, tenant, public or private employer or
    business entity (called the "responsible party" below for brevity) to
    create a policy or rule that prevents a person from lawfully transporting
    or storing any firearm in a privately owned motor vehicle if:

    1 - the vehicle is locked or the firearm is in a locked compartment on a
    motorcycle; and

    2 - the firearm is not visible. Any attempt to do so is null, void, unenforceable and without legal effect.

    The ban on gun bans in private vehicles doesn't apply under four
    conditions: 1 - possession of the firearm is already banned under federal
    or state law; 2 - the vehicle is owned or leased by the responsible party
    in which case the ban is at their discretion; 3 - the responsible party has
    a facility secured by a fence or other physical barrier, and also limits
    access by a guard or other security measure, and the responsible party
    provides secure storage with ready access and retrieval, similar to the
    gun-locker rules for public buildings and events; and 4 - compliance with
    this statute would violate another applicable federal or state law. Nuclear
    generating stations must comply with gun-locker requirements.

    The parking area for a single-family detached residence is exempt from
    this law. Department of Defense contractors whose property is located
    wholly or partially on a military base are exempt from this law. A
    responsible party can provide an alternate parking facility close to the
    main facility, ban firearms at the main one, and allow them at the
    alternate facility, as long as they don't charge any extra fee.

    Anticipating possible legal challenges from large corporations or other
    property owners whose parking space is open to the public, the legislature
    included a six-point set of findings, rare in state bills, to clarify that:
    1 - the state and federal Constitutions provide strong protection for the
    fundamental right to keep and bear arms for self defense;

    2 - the enjoyment of this right is impaired if people are deprived the right to keep arms in their vehicles;

    3 - people are deprived of their rights if firearms cannot be kept in their private vehicles;

    4 - your locked private vehicle is
    private, not a public space, you have the right to furnish it any way you
    like that is legal to enhance your comfort, security, ease of movement and
    enjoyment of liberty;

    5 - parking lot operators are not unduly burdened by the presence of legally possessed property secured within the vehicle by
    its owner; and

    6 - this act is for the benefit and protection of people who
    choose to exercise and enforce their fundamental right to bear arms in self
    defense in their movements throughout this state, including in their
    personal motor vehicles.


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    The parking area for a single-family detached residence is exempt from
    this law

    so does that above text mean apartments can regulate? I just woke up from a short nap after being up 30 some hours so all this technical stuff is not making much sense...

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    While this new law was a huge 'yay' from me when it was signed, I hadn't yet read the verbage from the actual bill.

    Not sure about the OPs situation, but with my employer there IS a fence'wall effect that surrounds the property on which I work and park... however there are always NUMEROUS (to the effect of at LEAST a dozen) gates into the 'secured' area that are kept wide open during business and that are NOT monitored or otherwise access-controlled. Unfortunately, I don't see such a requirement in the wording so I'm not yet sure how this will pan out for me. =(

    In the OP's case, unless this walmart is far more locked down than any I've ever seen, they can't even remotely make a case for being exempt under any of the provided exemptions, so I'd say they're safe as of September 30th =)

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    10 more days for walmart to fix it or as they said I will get fired that they will not honor the new law... its gonna be interesting...

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    Sounds like they are envious of Disney. Or undocumented workers
    who are here only to feed their families feel disenfranchised that they
    can't be like the rest of us. Just more pandering.
    Would be funny to OC dummy gun in car pull up then under the watchful eye
    of the cameras, place 'gun' in lock box. Then watch them violate your privacy.


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    i_chance_all wrote:
    Walmart said they would not honor the new law that is going to take place that would allow employees to keep a firearm secure in there vehicle.. the way it is now just having one in the parking lot even on your day off and your fired... Why would they think there policy is above state law that says other?
    The 'manager'... is blowin' smoke. There's no way he/they can prevent you from carrying a weapon in your vehicle on their parking lot or anywhere else. Walmart does not make law. Walmart cannot circumventcivil rightsregarding it's employees who are citizens. What this is... is the opinion of one little petty tyrant control freak 'anti'. That's all it is.





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    1. Oct 1st 2009
    2. gun in car
    3. go to work
    4. get fired
    5. PROFIT !

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    I like that logic!!!

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    agreed with the person who said its a great lawsuit, there are whisterblower laws also, and lots of protection for being fired.

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    Unfortunately, a lot of large corporations seem to feel they are above the law. I have heard of Walmart doing all kinds of things and getting in trouble for it so this type of attitude against the new "Guns at Work" bill doesn't surprise me. I don't know if this is true or not but someone else said that Walmart (at least one of the stores) has a policy that if there is an electrical failure that all doors are immediately locked so nobody can get in or get out until the security remedies the situation. If that is true, that is highly illegal both in terms of fire codes as well as unlawfully detaining a person. I'd like to see them try that on me. Anyone who forcefully prevents me from leaving their property without probable cause that I have broken a law (i.e. shoplifting)islikely to get shot.



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    protector84 wrote:
    Unfortunately, a lot of large corporations seem to feel they are above the law. I have heard of Walmart doing all kinds of things and getting in trouble for it so this type of attitude against the new "Guns at Work" bill doesn't surprise me. I don't know if this is true or not but someone else said that Walmart (at least one of the stores) has a policy that if there is an electrical failure that all doors are immediately locked so nobody can get in or get out until the security remedies the situation. If that is true, that is highly illegal both in terms of fire codes as well as unlawfully detaining a person. I'd like to see them try that on me. Anyone who forcefully prevents me from leaving their property without probable cause that I have broken a law (i.e. shoplifting)islikely to get shot.
    Wow, you come up with this rumor accusing the 2nd biggest company in this country, a companynot really known to practice kidnapping... and without any kind of verification, you come up with a thrat/plan to shoot someone there.

    That's a rather, uhm, hmmm, not normal, let's say....thought progression.

    OTOH, maybe Maslow was right......

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    If you shoot someone because they stopped you for shoplifting (is this a problem you have?) you are going to face more than just a "problem." You'll probably face felony murder, or felony attempted murder charges at that point, and then spend a lot of time in jail.

    I'd advise keeping your weapon home while shoplifting and getting help

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    Pace wrote:
    If you shoot someone because they stopped you for shoplifting (is this a problem you have?) you are going to face more than just a "problem." You'll probably face felony murder, or felony attempted murder charges at that point, and then spend a lot of time in jail.

    I'd advise keeping your weapon home while shoplifting and getting help
    no, hes saying if they try to prevent with from leaving without probable cause that he has committed an illegal act, such as shop lifting.

    not if he gets caught shoplifting hes going to shoot him lol

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