Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 29

Thread: Chirp, Chirp...

  1. #1
    Regular Member barf's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Nawlins, Louisiana, USA
    Posts
    259

    Post imported post

    Wow, haven't seen many posts on here lately (except if you count the personal attacks).

    Where is everyone? On vacation? Offshore? Over at laopencarry.org?

  2. #2
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    near Bossier City, Louisiana, USA
    Posts
    179

    Post imported post

    According to the mods of this site, personal attacks are basically ok as long as none of their specific rules are broken. This has led to many people not visiting here as much anymore apparently.

  3. #3
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Centennial, Colorado, USA
    Posts
    1,412

    Post imported post

    I wouldn't say no one. I for one am more than happy to learn as much as possible. I haven't been posting much due to the, well, perhaps trolls is the wrong word. But there are some folks who seem to want to do nothing but bicker with each other, making any thread they join a mess. There has been more than a few threads I have wanted to post in that I didn't, simply because it had devolved into an OT argument. I didn't even bother to post after that because it seemed a waste of time. I knew that either the thread would be gone shortly or what I said wouldn't make it through the noise. A shame, really.

    But, I have been keeping an eye on things. I have noticed that the noise seems to come from a surprisingly few amount of people. No more than a dozen, from what I have seen. While this is promising in that it wouldn't take a lot of cleanup to get things settled down. However, it's a bit depressing that so few people can have such a widespread affect on a relatively large forum.

  4. #4
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Centennial, Colorado, USA
    Posts
    1,412

    Post imported post

    If I come up with a question specifically for you I certainly will do that. But please, if you see any question of mine anywhere else you have an answer for, please ignore any trolls and feel free to answer.

  5. #5
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Lake Charles Area, Louisiana, USA
    Posts
    1,723

    Post imported post

    We'll I'll tell you why I stay away.

    #1 smoking357

    a) This guy has hijacked this thread and filled it with the purest form of trollism I've ever seen. His Godlike worship of every single word that Mark says is absolutely sickening. It's like Mark has his own little cheerleader or something.

    #2 mark edward marchiafava

    Mark has become completely hostile towards ANY and EVERYONE who even remotely opposes anything he believes or says to be true. His hypocritical responses to almost everything written are also sickening to see over and over again. Plus I'm a Marine, so that automatically puts me on the HATE list. I also am a disabled Veteran, so that too puts me on the HATE list for Mark because I'm a leech. Marks' absolute disgust for ANY and ALL forms of LE is equally disturbing.

    He and smoking357 both and now it seems another 'Ghost of Mcveigh' are completely hostile towards anyone who doesn't worship at the same alter. Yet they remain drunk off the notion that they are some sort of patriots and are living 200 years ago. They take on the role playing of charters from that time and pretend that they must be doing something right b/c people hate them and on and on about how our founding fathers rebelled blah..blah.

    Eitherway, my words above are also NOT my own entirely. There are many of us who don't even bother coming around anymore as you have noticed. Although above might not be their exact reason, it surely is the general consensus. Just take a llook at Mark and smoking's last 50 post. Then at the latest installment Mcviegh's post. You'll see exactly what the issue is. Many have tried to keep it together but obviously it's just not possible.



    Hope this helps with your question.

    Meanwhile I'll be at http://www.laopencarry.org/for LA specific related Open carry issues.





  6. #6
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    , ,
    Posts
    42

    Post imported post

    I'm with you Dustin.

    Entirely too much static and constant bickering and downright hostility in our state's folder has turned me off to the point I rarely spend time here anymore.

    When folks make a post about a car, horse, or even fuzzy slippers onmotorcycle boards I frequent, there's no static, and no bickering.It's nice.Judge not, lest ye be judged.

    Mods? Are you reading this??

    I first found this website the day my Mother and I completed our Concealed Carry class.

    Our Concealed Carry Class! Did everyone just read that?

    We both are proud to hold our CC Permits. My Dad passed away recently and I wanted tohelp her rekindle her interest in firearms and personal protection. This is why we now hold our Concealed CarryPermits.She wields a mean Glock 26 for a 65 year old by the way.

    I OC and CC split about equally and depending on the situation, company, and location-all the while being very comfortable in my own skin.

    I do my own thing, Don't tread on me and I won't tread on you. Nice way to live eh? Cramming with clenched fists views-good, bad, or otherwise is not a way to win friends and influence people.

    -Guess I'm being held down by the Man with our Permits.

    Out.

    Dirty



  7. #7
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Baton Rouge, Louisiana, USA
    Posts
    545

    Post imported post

    Great post Dustin and Dirty.

  8. #8
    Banned
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Pierce is a Coward, ,
    Posts
    1,100

    Post imported post

    Dustin wrote:
    We'll I'll tell you why I stay away.

    #1 smoking357

    a) This guy has hijacked this thread and filled it with the purest form of trollism I've ever seen. His Godlike worship of every single word that Mark says is absolutely sickening. It's like Mark has his own little cheerleader or something.
    I followed Mark's story when it broke. I didn't know who he was, at the time. When I came here and saw his name, I thought is this the MEM? It's nice to be able to talk with a true civil rights leader who looked evil in the eye and beat it down.

    I find your lack of respect for Mark's sacrifice and accomplishments to be disrespectful.

    All OC'ers, especially LA. OC'ers, owe him a huge debt.

  9. #9
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Lake Charles Area, Louisiana, USA
    Posts
    1,723

    Post imported post

    See Barf, even your own personal opinon can someone how be wrong.

    amazing ...



  10. #10
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    , ,
    Posts
    44

    Post imported post

    Way to go Hatman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

  11. #11
    Banned
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Pierce is a Coward, ,
    Posts
    1,100

    Post imported post

    Dustin wrote:
    Marks' absolute disgust for ANY and ALL forms of LE is equally disturbing.
    Because Mark minds his business, and cops do this:

    http://gizmodo.com/5322387/police-so...man-with-taser

    Yeah, Mark's the bad guy.

  12. #12
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Lake Charles Area, Louisiana, USA
    Posts
    1,723

    Post imported post

    Keep going, your only further proving my point.

  13. #13
    Banned
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Pierce is a Coward, ,
    Posts
    1,100

    Post imported post

    Dustin wrote:
    Keep going, your only further proving my point.
    And you're proving mine.
    This blogger on lewrockwell.com gets at the essence of the matter, and he explains why you're not with us.

    re: Police Sodomize Man with Taser Posted by David Kramer on July 24, 2009 10:41 PM If you listen to the tape, you realize that not only obviously is the man naked from the waist down (and handcuffed), but one of the police officers is female. Can you imagine the outcry if this was done to a woman with a male officer present?
    Months ago, Will Grigg actually reported a story in which a woman prisoner in jail was stripped naked with male officers present in the cell.
    I’ll say it until the day I die: Now you know why they don’t want us to have guns.
    Oops, I forgot. They need their guns to protect us. “Mr. Robber/Mr. Rapist, could you please wait 20 minutes before you commit your crime until a police officer with his gun gets here to protect me from you? Thanks a bunch.”


  14. #14
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Lake Charles Area, Louisiana, USA
    Posts
    1,723

    Post imported post

    smoking357 wrote:
    Dustin wrote:
    Keep going, your only further proving my point.
    And you're proving mine.
    You have made NO point.

    You're justPigeonholing.

  15. #15
    Regular Member sraacke's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Saint Gabriel, Louisiana, USA
    Posts
    1,222

    Post imported post

    There's to much static and bickering here lately. I have planty of other sites to read and post at.

    I've been at Atheist Network http://www.atheistnetwork.com/index.phpwhere I've been posting for over 5 years now. Lots of thiings to read and post about there and the moderators don't put up with the juvenile stuff like we've seen here lately.

    I've also been oave at the Security Info Watch forums http://forums.securityinfowatch.com/where I read and post with fellow secuirty professionals.

    I've been reading and posting at Zombie Squad http://www.zombiehunters.org/forum/index.phpwhich is very well moderated. Plenty to do and see there.

    I've been reading and posting in the Star Trek Fan forums such as Star Trek:Phase 2, http://www.startreknewvoyages.com/fo...p?action=forumwhere there's lots to read. Everyone is closly following the progress on the new episodes with the anticipated release of Blood & Fire Part 2 coming in the next few weeks.

    I'm a Ham Operator and I've been reading and posting over at QRZ http://forums.qrz.com/index.php?act=SF%3bf=7and Radio Reference http://forums.radioreference.com/.

    I go to Hulu http://www.hulu.com/and watch my tv shows like Kings, Royale Pains anr Burn Notice.

    Yes I've been posting over at Laopencarry and Bayou Shooter too.

    Oh and I WORK. NIGHTS. So that's several hours of the day I'm not on here reading the crap which has been going on here lately. Let's not forget sleep. I need to rest every once in a while.

    Put simply, I have much better things to do than sit here on Open Carry and see a few members make things miserable for everyone else.

    Now, I'm going to check out some porn videos at Youporn http://www.youporn.com/.

    Peace.

    Out.
    President/ Founding Member
    Louisiana Open Carry Awareness League
    www.laopencarry.org

  16. #16
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Centennial, Colorado, USA
    Posts
    1,412

    Post imported post

    And it begins again. Bicker amongst yourselves folk, I'm off to another thread.

  17. #17
    Regular Member turbodog's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Independence, Louisiana, USA
    Posts
    566

    Post imported post

    yale wrote:
    Put simply, I have much better things to do than sit here on Open Carry and see a few members make things miserable for everyone else.

    Now, I'm going to check out some porn videos at Youporn http://www.youporn.com/.

    Peace.

    Out.
    +1 on both comments.
    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLT View Post
    Him: "I carry my gun concealed"
    Me: "You're not very good at it"
    Him: "What do you mean?"
    Me: "I know you have a gun"
    End of conversation.

  18. #18
    Regular Member turbodog's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Independence, Louisiana, USA
    Posts
    566

    Post imported post

    smoking357 wrote:
    I find your lack of respect for Mark's sacrifice and accomplishments to be disrespectful.

    All OC'ers, especially LA. OC'ers, owe him a huge debt.
    accomplishments? Puuuleeeze.

    I for one, don't owe mark a fewkin thing.
    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLT View Post
    Him: "I carry my gun concealed"
    Me: "You're not very good at it"
    Him: "What do you mean?"
    Me: "I know you have a gun"
    End of conversation.

  19. #19
    Campaign Veteran marshaul's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Fairfax County, Virginia
    Posts
    11,487

    Post imported post

    FogRider wrote:
    And it begins again. Bicker amongst yourselves folk, I'm off to another thread.
    +1

    What a bunch of hypocrites you all are (not you, FogRider).

    You bitch and moan about trolls, to the point where you start whole threads (totally off-topic) to bitch and moan in.

    This is called trolling, my friends.

    Next time you point the finger, look in the mirror as you do so.

    As a participant who favors no "side", it seems to me that all parties share equal blame for the degeneration of these forums into mindless squabbling.

    Most of the strife comes from people bitching about how anti-LEO smoking357 and MEM appear to be. These hypocrites cannot stand the thought of a forum where the entirety of posting does not fit square into their authoritarian, police-statist paradigm. And so they endlessly rail against and decry others in a most childish fashion, hoping they can once again turn the forum into a cozy place where all are in lockstep of political thought.

    MEM and smoking357, on the other hand, are filled with a pompous sense of superiority, eager to rain their "decades" of study and experience on the ignorant masses who occupy OCDO. Regardless of the truth of this belief, it is not a way to engage in open debate or expand the horizons of those who are critical, or narrow-minded. And the "it's not worth educating those who don't want to be educated" (read: those who don't immediately recognize the immensity of our experience and education) attitude is monumentally asinine.

    I hope nobody takes more offense than due. This is intended as an equitable calling-out of what I see as responsible parties on all sides of the equation. I'm calling it like I see it, as usual.

    It reminds me of a certain poster, who has degenerated to the status of troll by constantly following AWDstylez around, to accuse him of being a "troll", whatever the content, attitude, or intent of his post. In addition to demonstrating legendary hypocrisy, this poster is single-handedly responsible for initiating the trainwrecks that threads involving AWDstylez devolve into, and then proceeding to lay the blame entirely on the other party, because after all they are in frequent disagreement and so the other must inevitably be a troll.

    You all need to @#$%ing grow up. If I quit the forum, it will be due to the incessant bickering and hypocrisy. Just remember, most of you reading this share a large stake of the blame for this. And the more you're inclined to blame "MEM" the more you're demonstrating the accuracy of what I assert.

  20. #20
    Banned
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Pierce is a Coward, ,
    Posts
    1,100

    Post imported post

    marshaul wrote:
    MEM and smoking357, on the other hand, are filled with a pompous sense of superiority, eager to rain their "decades" of study and experience on the ignorant masses who occupy OCDO.
    Yeah, what he said!

  21. #21
    Regular Member turbodog's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Independence, Louisiana, USA
    Posts
    566

    Post imported post

    smoking357 wrote:
    marshaul wrote:
    MEM and smoking357, on the other hand, are filled with a pompous sense of superiority, eager to rain their "decades" of study and experience on the ignorant masses who occupy OCDO.
    Yeah, what he said!
    Umm...I'm not positive, but I don't think that was a compliment smoke.
    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLT View Post
    Him: "I carry my gun concealed"
    Me: "You're not very good at it"
    Him: "What do you mean?"
    Me: "I know you have a gun"
    End of conversation.

  22. #22
    Banned
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Pierce is a Coward, ,
    Posts
    1,100

    Post imported post

    turbodog wrote:
    smoking357 wrote:
    marshaul wrote:
    MEM and smoking357, on the other hand, are filled with a pompous sense of superiority, eager to rain their "decades" of study and experience on the ignorant masses who occupy OCDO.
    Yeah, what he said!
    Umm...I'm not positive, but I don't think that was a compliment smoke.
    YMMV.

  23. #23
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Baton Rouge, Louisiana, USA
    Posts
    27

    Post imported post

    barf wrote:
    Wow, haven't seen many posts on here lately (except if you count the personal attacks).

    Where is everyone? On vacation? Offshore? Over at laopencarry.org?
    Because 98% of the members got smart and started LOCAL. The other 2% were busy being cheerleaders to MEM..

  24. #24
    Campaign Veteran IA-Pro's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Covington, Louisiana, USA
    Posts
    105

    Post imported post

    yale wrote:
    Put simply, I have much better things to do than sit here on Open Carry and see a few members make things miserable for everyone else.

    Now, I'm going to check out some porn videos at Youporn http://www.youporn.com/.

    Peace.

    Out.
    +1 That and of course http://www.louisianasportsman.com/

  25. #25
    Regular Member turbodog's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Independence, Louisiana, USA
    Posts
    566

    Post imported post

    Bat21 wrote:
    barf wrote:
    Wow, haven't seen many posts on here lately (except if you count the personal attacks).

    Where is everyone? On vacation? Offshore? Over at laopencarry.org?
    Because 98% of the members got smart and started LOCAL. The other 2% were busy being cheerleaders to MEM..
    The mods here should lock out a thread when personal attacks have left the original topic in the dust. They don't. So people who want to ask real questions, and try and get real answers instead of rhetoric, are starting to move over to Laopencarry.org.

    LOCAL isn't a stand alone forum or part of a larger national organization. It's a pro-OC Louisiana group who's site has forums centered around information, questions, and experiences specific to the open carry of firearms in Louisiana and nowhere else. We're small now, but growing.

    The moderators on LOCAL aren't going to allow the kind of personal attacks that have become prevalent on this forum. Many of the LOCAL guys have met in person on more than one occasion. If one of us get's objectionable (hasn't happened yet) he's likely to be seeing the other guy in person and may have to explain himself.

    LOCAL welcomes visitors. The site (and group) is still a work in progress but feel free to check it out. http://www.laopencarry.org/
    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLT View Post
    Him: "I carry my gun concealed"
    Me: "You're not very good at it"
    Him: "What do you mean?"
    Me: "I know you have a gun"
    End of conversation.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •