Kevin Jensen
State Researcher
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This is a private message that I received from holy cow. Since he has not yet earned my respect, he will get my response in public, rather than private.
holy cow wrote:
Open carry is not a "cause", it is a numerated right protected by The Constitution of these UnitedStatesthat I, and most cops are sworn to support and defend from enemies both foreign, and domestic.
Second, I am not required to "care for the men in blue", or anyone else for that matter. I have saidthis before, and I will say it again.
If you want to blanket assume that all cops are gods and deserve your praise that is YOUR prerogative. Not mine. The only people that require my care are my wife and kids.
There are some good cops out there, and as hard as this may be to believe, I have respect for some of them. I grew up in Lehi, and at one point knew most of the police force.
I have respect for former Lehi Chief of Police Carl Zimmerman.He is agood man that lived in our ward, and helped out my family in a time of need.
I have respect for Captain Harold Terry, the father of a few of my high school colleagues, and a man that I looked up to as a teen.
I have respect for LieutenantJames Munson, a man that once lived next door to me, and was also the instructor for the class in which I took to apply for my concealed firearm permit.
They are three of the best cops Lehi has ever had.
I have respect for my battle buddyOfficer Tyler Butler, of the Utah State Department of Corrections. He is a great friend of mine, afellow Sergeant and Iraqi War Veteran.
Then there is my in-laws. My Wife's Father was a Police Chief in the Sacramento area andis now my hunting buddy.
My Wife's Mother was a police officer in the San Diego area, and she is now my health care practitioner.
Whether itis a friend in combat, a hunting partner with a shotgun, or a woman that cares for my health, these are three cops that I trust with my life.
So far that is6 peace officers, former and current, that I respect and trust.
I am sorry to announce however, that I have no personal experience with the thousands of other cops in the United States, and therefore they have not had a chance to earn my respect or trust.
But it sounds like you have that covered for me.
holy cow wrote:
You seem to have a blind faith in every cop that dares to don a badge, and "do a job that most wont. and endure the abuse of the A**holes."
I would therefore also assume that you have a blind faith inthe Armed Forces ofUnited States, like most Americans do. You know, "Support the Troops"?
THX and I are bothcurrently servingin the U.S. Army. Do we not deserve your respect? Are we exempt from your respect becausewe disagree with your position?
Why don't we fall under your blanket category of "those brave enough to do a job that most wont." Is it your policy to call soldiers that do not agree with you "A**holes"?
In case it is not obvious, THX and I don't expect you to respect us, nor do we care if you do. Hate us all you want, that is your right and we will defend it to the grave.
We understand that we alllive in a free country.We live in acountry where you can voice your opinion freely.We live in acountry where you can either praise cops with the majority or dissent in the minority.
You don't seem to get that.
This is a private message that I received from holy cow. Since he has not yet earned my respect, he will get my response in public, rather than private.
holy cow wrote:
First, lets start with the obvious.
Open carry is not a "cause", it is a numerated right protected by The Constitution of these UnitedStatesthat I, and most cops are sworn to support and defend from enemies both foreign, and domestic.
Second, I am not required to "care for the men in blue", or anyone else for that matter. I have saidthis before, and I will say it again.
If you want to blanket assume that all cops are gods and deserve your praise that is YOUR prerogative. Not mine. The only people that require my care are my wife and kids.
There are some good cops out there, and as hard as this may be to believe, I have respect for some of them. I grew up in Lehi, and at one point knew most of the police force.
I have respect for former Lehi Chief of Police Carl Zimmerman.He is agood man that lived in our ward, and helped out my family in a time of need.
I have respect for Captain Harold Terry, the father of a few of my high school colleagues, and a man that I looked up to as a teen.
I have respect for LieutenantJames Munson, a man that once lived next door to me, and was also the instructor for the class in which I took to apply for my concealed firearm permit.
They are three of the best cops Lehi has ever had.
I have respect for my battle buddyOfficer Tyler Butler, of the Utah State Department of Corrections. He is a great friend of mine, afellow Sergeant and Iraqi War Veteran.
Then there is my in-laws. My Wife's Father was a Police Chief in the Sacramento area andis now my hunting buddy.
My Wife's Mother was a police officer in the San Diego area, and she is now my health care practitioner.
Whether itis a friend in combat, a hunting partner with a shotgun, or a woman that cares for my health, these are three cops that I trust with my life.
So far that is6 peace officers, former and current, that I respect and trust.
I am sorry to announce however, that I have no personal experience with the thousands of other cops in the United States, and therefore they have not had a chance to earn my respect or trust.
But it sounds like you have that covered for me.
holy cow wrote:
thx997303 wrote:
holy cow wrote:
THX is bringing up a very valid point, one that I too have asked without answer.
You seem to have a blind faith in every cop that dares to don a badge, and "do a job that most wont. and endure the abuse of the A**holes."
I would therefore also assume that you have a blind faith inthe Armed Forces ofUnited States, like most Americans do. You know, "Support the Troops"?
THX and I are bothcurrently servingin the U.S. Army. Do we not deserve your respect? Are we exempt from your respect becausewe disagree with your position?
Why don't we fall under your blanket category of "those brave enough to do a job that most wont." Is it your policy to call soldiers that do not agree with you "A**holes"?
In case it is not obvious, THX and I don't expect you to respect us, nor do we care if you do. Hate us all you want, that is your right and we will defend it to the grave.
We understand that we alllive in a free country.We live in acountry where you can voice your opinion freely.We live in acountry where you can either praise cops with the majority or dissent in the minority.
You don't seem to get that.
