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    GOP Candidate: If We Lose Elections, We Still Have Guns

    Where can I find my nearest bullet box?

    By JIM NEWELL

    Updated 6:01 PM EDT, Thu, Jul 16, 2009

    Catherine Crabill is a realtor and "home-schooling mother of four," and now a politician too! In her very first political race, Crabill is challenging Virginia state Del. Albert Pollard, D-Lancaster.

    If you bet on such things as "elections," you should probably bet on "Albert Pollard, D-Lancaster" to dispose of this new political lady. You know why? Because she's apparently insane, and very violent.

    Crabill recently attended one of those "Tea Parties," where conservatives like to meet up and complain about Barack Obama for an afternoon. In an address to fellow rally-mates, Crabill stressed the importance of this November's state elections in stopping Marxism. But hey, if it doesn't work, she suggested, we can always have a violent revolution to overthrow the government -- it's what the Founding Fathers wanted all along!


    "We have the chance to fight this battle at the ballot box before we have to resort to the bullet box… But that's the beauty of our Second Amendment right. I am glad for all of us who enjoy the use of firearms for hunting, but make no mistake, that was not the intent of the Founding Fathers. Our Second Amendment right was to guard against tyranny."


    Eh, the Second Amendment was mostly thrown in there so folks countryside could pick off fugitive Lobsterbacks on the lam, and grizzly bears, and French fur traders. But anyway, Crabill denies stirring up any sort of violence with her statement about the "beauty" of shooting government officials when they started expanding health coverage, according to the Washington Post:


    "I have no desire to see this country erupt in any kind of violent revolution," Crabill said. "I don't even own a gun."


    Looking around a nation in which some people have been stockpiling weapons since Obama's victory, however, she said she worried where it all might lead. She said her speech was less a call to arms than a call for conservatives to mobilize for upcoming elections at all levels.
    He wore his gun outside his pants for all the honest world to see. Pancho & Lefty

    The millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us....There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! ...The war is inevitable–and let it come! I repeat it, Sir, let it come …………. PATRICK HENRY speech 1776

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    You know, she's right. The 2nd is there to protect people against a tyranical government

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    forever_frost wrote:
    You know, she's right. The 2nd is there to protect people against a tyranical government
    She was saying that the Obama administration is Marxist: therefore, if we don't succeed in getting rid of it in at the ballot box, we will need to take up arms against it.

    Obama is no marxist, and this woman is a howling loon.

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    The Soap-box, The Ballot-box, The Jury-box, And The Cartridge-Box ... when one is no longer effective, move to the next box

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    The Donkey wrote:
    Obama is no marxist, and this woman is a howling loon.
    Of course he's not, he's a socialist communist Muslim christian Indonesian Kenyan born on US soil. Quite an amazing accomplishment, really.

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    FogRider wrote:
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    Obama is no marxist, and this woman is a howling loon.
    Of course he's not, he's a socialist communist Muslim christian Indonesian Kenyan born on US soil. Quite an amazing accomplishment, really.
    I say he's a Marxist. I also say thatThe Donkey is thehowling loon if he can't see it. Or perhaps he just refuses to admit it as yet. After all he did vote for the commie.
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    So you choose the cartridge box then?

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    The Donkey wrote:
    So you choose the cartridge box then?
    I'd think you'd know it by now if anyone has. Well people like William Ayers have.

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    longwatch wrote:
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    So you choose the cartridge box then?
    I'd think you'd know it by now if anyone has. Well people like William Ayers have.
    I pray that you are right.

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    The Donkey wrote:
    forever_frost wrote:
    You know, she's right. The 2nd is there to protect people against a tyranical government
    She was saying that the Obama administration is Marxist: therefore, if we don't succeed in getting rid of it in at the ballot box, we will need to take up arms against it.
    Yea , cause our community organizer is an uniter not a divider .

    He sure has united the conservatives and Second Amendment supporters .

    I heard he is dividing the Democrats . Is that true ?

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    The Donkey wrote:
    longwatch wrote:
    The Donkey wrote:
    So you choose the cartridge box then?
    I'd think you'd know it by now if anyone has. Well people like William Ayers have.
    I pray that you are right.
    People feel pushed though, I see it everyday, I feel fear that it will be within the year before someone does something stupid. The reaction will be to push against gun owners which will exacerbate the situation. You can do the math on where it goes from there.

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    The Donkey wrote:
    So you choose the cartridge box then?
    It's definitely getting to that point. There is a definite "line in the sand" that we will not be pushed across. If it gets to that point, there will be armed revolution in this country....and I think much of the military would be on our side, being like minded individuals, for the most part.

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    FogRider wrote:
    The Donkey wrote:
    Obama is no marxist, and this woman is a howling loon.
    Of course he's not, he's a socialist communist Muslim christian Indonesian Kenyan born on US soil. Quite an amazing accomplishment, really.
    Don't forget, he's also a racist.


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    One thing that many Americans have either forgotten or have never been taught.The Framerssaw fit to include a number of safeguards in our founding documents. One of those items, perhaps the most important of all, is the fact that they reserved to the people the right to "throw off" despotic government and to institute new government as they saw fit.

    Yes, gentlemen. We certainly do have the right to take up arms against the government should the need arise, to over throw it and provide "new Guards" for our "future Secutity". We not only have the right, but also the duty to do this. This can be found in the second paragraph of the Declaration of Independence. We should all pick it up and read if from time to time.


    In the final seconds of your life, just before your killer is about to dispatch you to that great eternal darkness, what would you rather have in your hand? A cell phone or a gun?

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    SouthernBoy is spot on with his last two posts.

    Why is this so hard for libs to understand?

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    PAPACHUCK wrote:
    SouthernBoy is spot on with his last two posts.

    Why is this so hard for libs to understand?
    Because when you get right down to it, they're cowards. Simple as that.

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    This goes beyond recognition of the purposes of the 2A, which include the ability to take up arms against tyrannical government.

    This is about taking up arms against this government under the mistaken assumption that it is tyrannical.

    I hope that conservatives are far too conservative to be taken in by an extremist agenda posing as right wing populism.

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    SouthernBoy wrote:
    One thing that many Americans have either forgotten or have never been taught.The Framerssaw fit to include a number of safeguards in our founding documents. One of those items, perhaps the most important of all, is the fact that they reserved to the people the right to "throw off" despotic government and to institute new government as they saw fit.

    Yes, gentlemen. We certainly do have the right to take up arms against the government should the need arise, to over throw it and provide "new Guards" for our "future Secutity". We not only have the right, but also the duty to do this. This can be found in the second paragraph of the Declaration of Independence. We should all pick it up and read if from time to time.


    But but... the Federal Government has said it's illegal to attempt to overthrow the government. They said it's illegal! We don't have a right if they say it's illegal. Duh!

    /end sarcasm

    I'm continually amazed at the number of people who don't realize that our Founding Fathers would be domestic terrorists under today's world. Could you imagine locking up George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Patrick Henry, John Adams, and other assorted luminaries?

    I consider the Declaration of Independence to be our foundation document, one that was built on top of by the Constitution and finally roofed by the Bill of Rights.

    If you live in the house of The People, then you live by our rules. The government at large isn't doing so.


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    The Donkey wrote:
    This goes beyond recognition of the purposes of the 2A, which include the ability to take up arms against tyrannical government.

    This is about taking up arms against this government under the mistaken assumption that it is tyrannical.

    I hope that conservatives are far too conservative to be taken in by an extremist agenda posing as right wing populism.
    Where are people saying that it's come to that?

    It sounds more like people are saying it's comming to, or getting to that, but not that it's time.

    With all due respect, on reading this thread, your statement above makes it sound like your the one taking things to an extreme.

    You said:

    The Donkey wrote:
    She was saying that the Obama administration is Marxist: therefore, if we don't succeed in getting rid of it in at the ballot box, we will need to take up arms against it.

    Obama is no marxist, and this woman is a howling loon.
    When in truth she clarified it, indicating she espoused no such thing.

    What you said above is quite different from:
    "I have no desire to see this country erupt in any kind of violent revolution," Crabill said. "I don't even own a gun."

    or,

    Looking around a nation in which some people have been stockpiling weapons since Obama's victory, however, she said she worried where it all might lead. She said her speech was less a call to arms than a call for conservatives to mobilize for upcoming elections at all levels.
    This doesn't even sound close to what you portray.

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    The Donkey wrote:
    This goes beyond recognition of the purposes of the 2A, which include the ability to take up arms against tyrannical government.

    This is about taking up arms against this government under the mistaken assumption that it is tyrannical.

    I hope that conservatives are far too conservative to be taken in by an extremist agenda posing as right wing populism.
    Actually, our government IS tyranical. We have several agencies who's entire mandate is to deprive you of rights. BATFE is one of them. Look at the country from the eyes of our Founders. We passed tyranical a LONG time ago.

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    darthmord wrote:
    SouthernBoy wrote:
    One thing that many Americans have either forgotten or have never been taught.The Framerssaw fit to include a number of safeguards in our founding documents. One of those items, perhaps the most important of all, is the fact that they reserved to the people the right to "throw off" despotic government and to institute new government as they saw fit.

    Yes, gentlemen. We certainly do have the right to take up arms against the government should the need arise, to over throw it and provide "new Guards" for our "future Secutity". We not only have the right, but also the duty to do this. This can be found in the second paragraph of the Declaration of Independence. We should all pick it up and read if from time to time.


    But but... the Federal Government has said it's illegal to attempt to overthrow the government. They said it's illegal! We don't have a right if they say it's illegal. Duh!

    /end sarcasm

    I'm continually amazed at the number of people who don't realize that our Founding Fathers would be domestic terrorists under today's world. Could you imagine locking up George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Patrick Henry, John Adams, and other assorted luminaries?

    I consider the Declaration of Independence to be our foundation document, one that was built on top of by the Constitution and finally roofed by the Bill of Rights.

    If you live in the house of The People, then you live by our rules. The government at large isn't doing so.
    They were classic liberals. Interesting how this is. You see, in their time, the "classic liberal" was one who was very strong on individual rights, very limited government, and very suspect of government from the get go. I refer you to "Slouching Towards Gomorrah" by Robert Bork and "Liberty and Tyranny: A Conservative Manifesto" by Mark Levin for more on this.

    Perhaps the most "radical" firebrands during the nations formation were Patrick Henry and George Mason. Thanks to those two gentlemen and their success in convincing James Madison to come over to their side, we have the Bill of Rights.

    You're probably right. They all would have been vilified, scorned, despised, and locked up. Just what the British wanted in the first place.


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    The Donkey wrote:
    This goes beyond recognition of the purposes of the 2A, which include the ability to take up arms against tyrannical government.

    This is about taking up arms against this government under the mistaken assumption that it is tyrannical.

    I hope that conservatives are far too conservative to be taken in by an extremist agenda posing as right wing populism.
    Not tyrannical? What do you call consistant, and in too many cases successful, attempts to deny us our Constitutionally guarenteed rights and intrusions into and attempts to controlour personal lives? A good example is this so called national health care plan, whichis nothing more than a intent to control our lives!

    Pull your head out of the sand and look around you.
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    When I was 10 years old, I was Patrick Henry for Halloween.

    You may sort my position from there.
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    The Donkey wrote:
    This goes beyond recognition of the purposes of the 2A, which include the ability to take up arms against tyrannical government.

    This is about taking up arms against this government under the mistaken assumption that it is tyrannical.

    I hope that conservatives are far too conservative to be taken in by an extremist agenda posing as right wing populism.
    Your hope is falsely placed. They've drank the koolaid of, "any government that isn't pushing MY agenda is tyrannical." Thankfully, there's absolutely zero chance off them getting of their couches and internetz and doing anything about it.

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    Actually, Americans have been throwing a fit since January. For the first time in centuries we had Tea Parties. More and more are waking up and realizing that our Constitution has been trampled on and our rights have been stolen. These groupings of citizens will just get bigger and bigger until a flash point is reached, probably when government tries to quell it with arrests. At that point, we'll have another Revolution.

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