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Email I just got from Washington State Chief Justice

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Obviously, the most striking aspect of this is that we now have on record the Chief Justice of the WA SC stating that he does not follow the law partially due to staff comfort level.

We. Are. Doomed.
 
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I forwarded his email to a couple of different Washington State legislatures, so I'm awaiting a response to see if what he says falls within the law or not.
 
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The verdict is in.....

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The Legislature exempts the Washington State Supreme Court.
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[font="Arial, sans-serif"]Dear Aaron, Thank you for your inquiry. In response to your email, Rep. Upthegrove asked me to work with policy staff of the House Judiciary Committee to answer your question. It appears that the lock box requirement does not apply to the Supreme Court. The law is silent on courts that are not governed by a "local legislative authority." It would apply to counties (superior and district courts) and cities (municipal courts). The law does not distinguish between the Supreme Court and other locations "used in connection with court proceedings." Therefore, it would still be illegal to bring a weapon to the Supreme Court. I hope this is the information you need. Please don't hesitate to contact us if we can be of further assistance. Sincerely, _________________________________________ Rachel Smith Legislative Assistant to Rep. Dave Upthegrove Phone: (360) 786-7868 Webpage: http://hdc.leg.wa.gov/members/upthegrove/index.asp Legislative Hotline: 1-800-562-6000 [/font]
 
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kwiebe wrote:
Obviously, the most striking aspect of this is that we now have on record the Chief Justice of the WA SC stating that he does not follow the law partially due to staff comfort level.

We. Are. Doomed.
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No, the ChiefJustice is not the legislative authority. Of the three branches of government (Legislative, Judicial, Executive) he is in the JUDICIAL branch, and as such has no legislative authority.
 
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Trigger Dr wrote:
kwiebe wrote:
Obviously, the most striking aspect of this is that we now have on record the Chief Justice of the WA SC stating that he does not follow the law partially due to staff comfort level.

We. Are. Doomed.
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No, the ChiefJustice is not the legislative authority. Of the three branches of government (Legislative, Judicial, Executive) he is in the JUDICIAL branch, and as such has no legislative authority.
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True, but why even go where he did then? My problem is the window into officials' thoughts we keep getting. The Bauer guy in Kitsap, for example. It's just wrong. The common theme is, "I don't care what the law says, I'm going to apply my own beliefs."

I just bristle whenever I get an inkling that a public official is doing this, and it happens all the time now, at all levels of government. No respect for the law, only what the official thinks is "fair" or "practical".
 
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Is Olympia a pro gun city? If it is, you could take up a collection and donate some lockboxes to the city for the purpose of the local legislative authority to deliver them to the supreme court of Washington.

Hard for the Chief Justice to say the local legislative authority did not deliver lockboxes when they did deliver lockboxes.
 
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Thundar wrote:
Is Olympia a pro gun city? If it is, you could take up a collection and donate some lockboxes to the city for the purpose of the local legislative authority to deliver them to the supreme court of Washington.

Hard for the Chief Justice to say the local legislative authority did not deliver lockboxes when they did deliver lockboxes.
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The only problem with this thought is that Olympia is not the legislative authority over our Supreme Court. It is the state legislature, I used it correctly Deanf, that is the local authority
 
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It is the state legislature, I used it correctly Deanf, that is the local authority
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Huh?

The Washington State Legislature is made up of two bodies: the State Senate and the State House of Representatives. The elected people who serve in those bodies are called Legislators.

Local legislative authorities are things such as city councils and county councils. They are not called legislatures. The elected people who serve in them are called councilmembers.
 
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deanf wrote:
It is the state legislature, I used it correctly Deanf, that is the local authority
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Huh?

The Washington State Legislature is made up of two bodies: the State Senate and the State House of Representatives. The elected people who serve in those bodies are called Legislators.

Local legislative authorities are things such as city councils and county councils. They are not called legislatures. The elected people who serve in them are called councilmembers.
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That's why I didn't say they were the local legislative authority. I said they were the legislative authority over the Supreme Court. They are far from being a local legislative authority.
 
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My comments were directed at who I originally quoted. He said he contacted a couple of different Washington State legislatures.

Well, there's only one.
 
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Can't believe y'all are arguing over something so minor.

I guess the spelling police are strong within us.
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Gotcha Dean. My mistake.

Bader we are not arguing over spelling. We are discussing the proper usage of a term.
 
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the testosterone is high on a hot day

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joeroket wrote:
Thundar wrote:
Is Olympia a pro gun city? If it is, you could take up a collection and donate some lockboxes to the city for the purpose of the local legislative authority to deliver them to the supreme court of Washington.

Hard for the Chief Justice to say the local legislative authority did not deliver lockboxes when they did deliver lockboxes.
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The only problem with this thought is that Olympia is not the legislative authority over our Supreme Court. It is the state legislature, I used it correctly Deanf, that is the local authority
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The law does not indicate authority over the supreme court, only local legislative authority.
 
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Can the OP not simply e-mail back and ask the Chief Justice who he feels is the local legislative authority with the responsability to provide the lockboxes?
 
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